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What comments? I never heard Elon say a smart thing.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823254086126608862 Look at Elon. He has the cognitive development of a teenager.

Basically, Jordan Peterson is the demonstration for how intelligence can be completely subservient to bias and ignorance. Now, AI basially is a subservient intelligence. It has no agency, and therefore no wisdom. With the amount of damage someone like Peterson alone can do, beause of how convincing he can appear to the biased masses, imagine if everyone had a personal Jordan Peterson^10 inside their pockets. That's the world we speak of. People think that the major threats around humanities survival lie in external problems, in conflict between societies or nature. But the reality is, there is a far more sinister threat that is occuring on the informational level of society, that was always present. Due to the interconnectedness of the world, and the development of a sort of global digital mind, that basically rules the perception of our realities, these kinds of technologies introduce something that is equivalently dangerous as schizophrenia is to a tribesman. You can say the most dangerous things for a tribesman are the lions that lurk in the tall grass, or the threat of starvation or other tribes. But really, schizophrenia, such that you can no longer keep reality apart from your personal imagination, is far, far more dangerous, because it exponentiates every threat that exists and creates threats where there should no none. AI basially is like the introduction of a powerful form of imagination into the global digital mind, which could very easily lead to a sort of global psychosis. We don't realize just how bad things can get, before they get bad, and so we are not even aware of how significant the dangers here are. We had the luxury that technology was kind of ruled by more developed human beings. Social media was basically biased towards progress. But this is far from certain, and it seems to be changing now, as you can observe someone like Elon Musk taking over the space. He will amplify his own biases, just as the progressives did in the past.

Musk is baffoon. AI basically will give underdeveloped, less intelligent people the ability to frame their biases in a more sophisticated manner such that progress will be much harder to achieve, given that people can simply remain within their bubbles of bias. If you were worried how bigots and baffoons were able to convince the ignorance masses in the past, prepare for hell. You can already see this happening, as I predicted when the models initially surfaced. And like with social media, there is literally nothing that anyone will do about it until significant damage to society is done. This is why giving biased apes powerful technology is such a bad idea, because it allows them to get away with even less wisdom than before.

Actual infinity. It's just insane. It's actually insane. It's unfathomable, it is eternal, it is everything. Like, think about what that means, it is actually infinite, and it has been infinite for all of eternity. Everything you have so far experienced, as you can remember it, is an infinitesimal small part of what you have experienced and what you will experience. There is no end to it. You could live every single life of every single being that has ever existed on earth and it would be nothing. Just think about how far you have come, and you have no fucking clue. You have no clue where you are going, where you have been. There is no end to exploring yourself, coming to know yourself in the most intimate way possible, through pure being. Existing is basically having sex with yourself, it is the most intimate act possible. And think of where you are right now, how precious this moment is, how utterly mindblowing. Forget about all the human bullshit for a second, just look where the fuck you are right now. You have probably been interdimensional fruitflies or some such for your past billion lives, and now you here. Catch your breath, look at what you are. This is a rare moment of self-reflection on your infinte journey through your own self. You can connect right now to those moments of clarity, of which you already had an uncountable amount of.

You are not engaging with what I said. What's the point of asking a question if you will ignore my answer and then give the laziest response.

Also, the point of believing in stuff you can't be conscious of should be fairly apparent if you just inspect the reason for why you are here and treating us all as if we existed as separated entities. In the end you could just make an argument for the principle of caution, in that, it would not be good to assume others do not exist if they do exist, as you might have no reason not to inflict suffering onto them, if that suffering doesnt exist in the first place. This faith is such a fundamental part of being human, and an entity in general, that it would be silly to pretend you could just throw it out and pretend it wasn't a thing.

This is all bias. Reality is perfect as it is. There are infinite beings who will live "unawakened" lifes, who have done so for eternity and will continue to do so for eternity. There is nothing fundamentally special about awakening. You will experience everything anyways.

It very much depends on what kind of rape it was. I'm assuming it wasn't a violent rape but more so statutory rape, with maybe coercive elements. Either way, we, largely, live in a societies that put consenting adults in prison for being in sexual relationships under the pretense of eugenics, so it is not very surprising that people would go bonkers in clear abuse cases such as this.

The point of having faith in the appearances of the divine is love. You can project a deep love towards the connection you share with others, if you recognize in them a selfhood. It allows for a deeper intimacy between different parts of God. In other words, it allows for connection where, metaphysically, connection should not be possible (with the wisdom of the divine). There are things that have impacted me before I have been conscious of them. In the end I trust in the divine order and believe we have developed fundamentally truthful intuitions about the nature of existence, such that, despite a fundamental disconnectedness, we can still perceive each other and hold each other within our minds. That to me is part of the genius of creation. I think while you cannot become conscious of other minds in this way, due to the nature of selfhood, you can become conscious of divine intention. I believe faith to be a fundamental component to existence as it relates to self-hood. I think attempting to translate it into propositional logic will undermine the entire point of the existence of these dynamics. These are delicate things that will dissipate if you use the clumsy hands of your rational mind to grasp for them. In that way, faith is what sustains these things, as it is keeps your greasy fingers off of the delicate forms that you have been gifted so you could connect intimately with all the parts of yourself that exist outside of this selfhood. You cannot be conscious of anything that isn't part of your consciousness.

This cannot be possible by the very nature of what a soul or mind is. That doesn't exclude the existene of other minds, it just excludes the possibility of becoming conscious of other minds. The claim here is that they are both separate experiences and they can individually experience different aspects of the body-mind. For example, they said that from the perspective of the guy, he basically blinked out of existence for 5 years and then reentered the body having no recolletion of what had happened to him. The biggest claim I guess would be the fact that they are saying they are basically in the same body, dividing it up to share the space in it with complete lack of awareness of what the other "personality" is doing or feeling. They say they can each inhabit one of their arms and then touch each other and it is just like touching a stranger.

You just put more effort into the arguments. Who is and isn't a fool is relative.

That's basically your whole career as well.

Yeah it's like saying Awakening will make you give up sex because you realize you only have sex with yourself.

Think about this: If it turned out DNA didn't exist and it was all a big illusion and actually the body is just smooth spirit-matter that has no processes other than shaping itself to function itself the way it does. Literally nothing about our ideas of what women and men are would change.

Leo what is your intention for having all these conversations? Is there some shift you are trying to make in how you publically communicate?

Trying to answer the question as it was framed is futile. It is similar to attempting to describe subjective preferences (morality) in a strict propositional form. it will never work because the mind, and therefore subjectivity, including preferences, aren't grounded in propositional systems. You will always arrive at contradictions if you try to translate non-propositional computation into a propositional computation. It is the difference between intuitive, subconscious processing and conscious, rational processing. There is a reductionism that occurs, the translation necessarily breaks the nature of the object attempted to be described.

The truth is, the essence of a woman cannot be translated into propositional statements, because the perception of women is grounded in a non-propositional system. We are talking about neural networks, which solve for problems in a fundamentally different way than a propositional computational system might. This should be obvious, given that we don't arrive at the idea of womanhood through rational categorization, but rather attempt to rationally categorize an already present perception.

One of you who is a DDGer should make a post on the reddit making the community aware that Leo wants to have a conversation, frame it like it will be good fun content.

Hopefully Leo sent him an E-mail and he'll be reading it one of the days, at least he is aware of his existence now.

Destiny visiting actualized.org right now: @Leo Gura lol

Problem is Destiny just isn't too interested in philosophy or metaphysics.

It would be so bad, lol.

Yes, using the term "Illusion" or "Imagination" only makes sense as it is contextualized in contemporary or common understandings of reality. In essence, illusion just means that there is no inherent substance to reality that is stable or universal, as it is thought of by most minds. Or there is nothing beyond the appearance of reality (but that really translates to the same). So, the apparent rigidity of reality is an illusion.

Boghossian is very much stuck in orange, I'd think it would be hard to have any meaningful conversation with him.