Prabhaker

Whatsoever you do, do it with awareness; this is meditation. Walking, walk attentively, as if walking is everything; eating, eat with awareness, as if eating is everything; rising, rise with awareness; sitting, sit with awareness; all your actions become conscious, your mind does not travel beyond this moment, it remains in the moment, settles in the moment – this is meditation. Meditation is not an hour-a-day affair where you sit for one hour and then it is over till tomorrow. No, if twenty-three hours are empty of meditation and only one hour is meditative, then it is certain that the twenty-three hours will defeat the single hour. Non-meditation will win, meditation will lose. If you are living twenty-three hours a day without awareness, and only one hour with awareness, then you will never attain to the state of meditation.

Let's assume that I have no experience with psychedelics, but it is not an esoteric secret, anyone can read about it, different users experience are available on this forum and internet. Anyone can write about it. Experience of real mystics is not available to everyone. What you know from new age spiritual teachers is a vague hint. Many of so called spiritual teachers are not mystics. I don't know how do you compare experience of psychedelics with real Samadhi.

Neti Neti is a Sanskrit expression which means "not this, not this", or "neither this, nor that" "Who am I?" is not really a question because it has no answer to it; it is unanswerable. It is a device, not a question. It is used as a mantra. When you constantly inquire inside: "Who am I? Who am I?" you are not waiting for an answer. Your mind will supply many answers; all those answers have to be rejected. Your mind will say: "You are the essence of life. You are the eternal soul. You are divine," and so on and so forth. All those answers have to be rejected:neti neti -- one has to go on saying: "Neither this nor that." When you have denied all the possible answers that the mind can supply and devise, when the question remains absolutely unanswerable, a miracle happens: suddenly the question also disappears. When all the answers have been rejected, the question has no props, no supports inside to stand on any more. It simply flops, it collapses, it disappears. When the question also has disappeared, then you know. But that knowing is not an answer: it is an existential experience. Nothing can be said about it, or whatever will be said will be wrong. To say anything about it is to falsify it. It is the ultimate mystery, inexpressible, indefinable. No word is adequate enough to describe it.

I don't mind , you are free to express your views. It is more be shameful if you waste your life without experiencing real Samadhi.

I don't know it is really dangerous ! India has more vegetarians than the rest of the world put together. We are going to become most populated country in the world soon. It is scary !

The first part of yoga must be physiological because man lives on the circumference, in the body, so the work has to start there, only then can it reach the mind. And when one has gone beyond the body and beyond the mind, then the third, meditation, happens.

Learn yoga.

Only because this forum belongs to Leo, he advocates the use of psychedelics.

Different people use different terminologies. Consciousness is a quality of your mind, but it is not your total mind. Your mind can be both conscious and unconscious, but when you transcend your mind, there is no unconsciousness and no corresponding consciousness. There is awareness. (you can use word 'consciousness' for 'awareness' if you like)

Anyone can make false claims on a internet forum, you can't stop them by questioning if you have not experienced real and false Samadhi both. When people who know only the experience of psychedelics , do you question them? You immediately accept their claim. Nobody wants to travel on a long and arduous path. When plastic flower are available then why bother about real flowers ?

It is awareness. Consciousness is a quality of the mind, awareness is the transcendence; it is going beyond the mind. Mind, as such, is the medium of duality, so consciousness can never transcend duality. It is always conscious of something, and there is always someone who is conscious. So consciousness is part and parcel of the mind, and mind, as such, is the source of all duality, of all divisions, whether they are between subject and object, activity or inactivity, consciousness or unconsciousness. Every type of duality is mental. Awareness is nondual, so awareness means the state of no mind.

All mad people drop the Conscious mind and start listening to the voice of the Subconscious mind.

Two hundred years of British dominance in India created a great gap. Most of its links with the ancient knowledge and wisdom were broken, and its identity was established with a totally new civilization and culture with which its older civilization had no relationship. Indians think that theirs is a very old civilization, but they are mistaken; they are only a two hundred year old community. The British are now a far older community than the Indians. Whatever knowledge India has is just rubbish, and that too is just left-overs. That which the West chooses to give India is now its knowledge. Whatever India knew before two hundred years ago was lost in one stroke. In this country there have been hundreds of foreign invasions, but no invader could ever attack the vital core. Some invaders looked for wealth, some occupied land, others captured palaces and forts, but none could attack the interiority of India – the attention of invaders was not drawn towards it. But then, for the first time, attacks were made of its interiority by Western civilization. The easiest way to attack it was to disconnect the country from its long history, and to destroy the past. A gap was created between the people and their history. The real basis of all cultures is its sources of knowledge. The roots of a civilization are in its long chain of knowledge. If the history of just two generations is taken away, a country will become cut off from all possibilities of further progress.

Some Buddhists claim that eating meat is acceptable according to the Buddha, and that even the Buddha himself ate meat. But this claim is gainsaid by the Buddha in this final of his Mahayana sutras. If one wishes to cultivate Great Loving-Kindness and not frighten sensitive sentient beings by the stench of death which meat-consumption causes to linger about one’s person, one should refrain from eating all and every kind of meat. This is the Buddha’s final Mahayana pronouncement on the matter. Here is the whole relevant section – a mini-seminar between the Buddha and his Bodhisattva follower, “Maha-kasyapaika-gotra” - on vegetarianism, from the Tibetan version of the Mahaparinirvana Sutra: Then Maha-Kasyapaika-gotra asked, “If it is very important to uphold the impropriety of meat-eating, would it not then be wrong to give meat to those who do not want meat?” [The Buddha replied:] “Excellent, noble son, excellent! You have understood my intention. One who protects the authentic Dharma should not do that. Noble son, henceforth I do not permit my sravakas [disciples] to eat meat. If I have said that [one should view] the country’s alms-food as the flesh of one’s son, how could I permit the eating of meat? I teach that the eating of meat cuts off Great Loving-kindness [maha-maitri].” “Blessed One, why did you permit the eating of meat that was blameless in three respects?” “Because I stipulated these three types of blameless as a provisional basis of training; I now discard them.” http://www.nirvanasutra.net/mpnsvegetarianism.htm

I can make false claims, someone else can make false claims , unless you experiment yourself , how can you know ?

If you are identified with your body and your material existence, in the same proportion you are determined by cause and effect. Then you are a machine. But if you are not identified with your material existence, with either body or mind – if you can feel yourself as something separate, different, above and transcendent to body-mind – then that transcending consciousness is not predetermined. It is spontaneous, free.

@Toby The Heart Sutra - by Osho. Talks on Prajnaparamita Hridayam Sutra of Gautama the Buddha. http://www.oshorajneesh.com/download/osho-books/buddha/The_Heart_Sutra.pdf

Yes, you can say 'Christ consciousness'.

Infinite ocean of cosmic consciousness. Then you can say like Jesus, "I and the father are one."

Samadhi is reaching to your center. Samadhi is only a dewdrop which has become aware, alert, contented, fulfilled. Enlightenment is the dewdrop slipping into the vast, infinite ocean.

Try to understand. When you will grow towards meditation, your health will improve. With health problems you can't enter Samadhi, all health problems will be solved well before Samadhi. After full enlightenment your can suffer from serious ailments, even death can happen. But full enlightenment is very rare.

You can start with walking, walk meditatively in morning and evening. After few months you can start jogging.

Techniques of meditation are solution to suffering. But techniques are not meditation. They prepare ground for meditation.

They start solving on the path of meditation, before Samadhi.

After Samadhi all problems are solved. But after full enlightenment you body can suffer from serious ailments but fully enlightened persons don't interfere.