How to be wise

@Faceless we meet people where they are. Not because it’s not an illusion, but because of love. You love the people, so you speak to them in their terms. But inside, there’s nothing that anyone can do to make you believe in it.

@Joseph Maynor unfortunately there are too many un enlightened people around. We need to speak their language. But the point is, most enlightened people who speak in ‘egoic language’ will not believe in the words they’re speaking, so they will be detached from it on the inside, but will still speak it so as to communicate with other people.

@Nahm In the world we live in, you will face plenty of situations where people will be angry with you. So you better not worry about it, or you’re looking at a whole world of suffering.

@Nahm you better not. That’s the world we live in.

@Nahm it’s a joke dude. Don’t worry. I’m not angry with you.

Namaste ? ????????????????

@Nahm your posts are too long. Who do you think will read all of that. ?

@xbcc when sadhguru says you have free will, he is meeting the audience that he’s speaking to from where they are. The audience, who are probably not enlightened, clearly believe that they have free will. So sadhguru is talking to them in their terms, and not in his own experience. It’s called ‘relative truth’. It’s the truth of the un enlightened person.

@Nahm lol, do you think anybody will take some time off to contemplate just because you tell them to. You know better than that.

@NoSelfSelf Lol buy Leo’s booklist. You need more research before you start practicing.

When I first listened to this audio a year ago, it changed my life. Enlightenment isn’t just about realising absolute truth. It’s also about realising experiantially that this reality is perfect as it is, and living it so that you are joyful every moment. It’s a long audio. But very very worthwhile. Can you stick through this to the end?

@Martin123 you misunderstood me. I am surrendering my mind more and more in my inquiry practice. I’m surrendering it permanently, so I can live with it. Right now I can’t surrender my mind fully to reality. Which is where inquiry comes in, to help me to do that permanently.

@Martin123 I surrender my mind during my inquiry practice, not when watching videos. I watch videos for information that could help my inquiry practice. P.S. Kahn can’t enlighten you in his videos. If you’re not getting some sort of information or inspiration from his videos for your PRACTICE, then you’re wasting your time.

@Martin123 I guess that’s not my cup of tea. I don’t feel anything when watching those gurus. If they have fascinating techniques and a clear cut goal I listen. Otherwise I’m out of there.

@MM1988 The only reason why Leo appeals to logic is to convince you to wake up from it. Since you understand only logic, that’s the only thing he can speak with you guys of. But ofcourse logic is another concept, and is false. To wake up from the dream includes realising that.

@Martin123 Matt Kahn’s videos are impossible to watch! I tried watching several of them, but I could never go past 10 mins, because I can’t figure out what he’s trying to say. He just rambles on about love. What does he teach in his videos?

@Outer LOC 768. Although I don’t agree with him.

@Barry J Read Ramaji’s book ‘1000’. It’s basically a model for how enlightened you are. Of course some people are enlightened, but the question comes to who is more enlightened than who. That’s what this book answers.

@Outer Jed McKenna is far from enlightened. LOC 580. Quite shocking for me, given that his big time fan Mickey Mouse sounded quite enlightened.

Leo: “I’ll talk more about that in the future.” Lol that’s his favourite phrase.

@Revamped most likely it’s because you have an emotional issue that’s avoiding you to open yourself up to love. It could be something like social anxiety or social repression. Something along those lines. Do some emotional work first.

@K VIL Lol Byron Katie is fully self-actualized why would she need this forum. I myself feel like I will outgrow actualized.org very soon. The only vision I see that he gives are enlightenment, emotional mastery, no mind, integration of non duality into daily life and life purpose. I now know how to achieve all of them and am currently working towards them. If he doesn’t reveal anything new soon, I will no longer have any need for this website. Although it has been a very useful stepping stone, I must now find a higher vision, or at least a more supportive website of the above goals I mentioned. I guess we’ll see what happens...

Teal Swan seems to be a very clear person. Everything in this world is perfect the way it is. Of course including racism and slavery.

If I think that somebody else needs help, I need to turn that around: ‘I need help’. Whenever I think that somebody else needs help, in that moment I need help.

@Sahil Pandit Yes. Also loving unkindness.