How to be wise

@IAmReallyImportant Do you understand spiral dynamics.

Notice that fear is the only emotion that can make you unaware of the truth. You have to try to induce fear within me to make me lose my awareness of the truth. No other emotion would do it. It won’t work with me. The truth is the truth.

Because adults don’t change. It’s extremely rare for an adult to grow spirally even by one stage. Our only hope is in the next generation.

There is no alien-mind, only mind.

@Someone here Once you understand spiral dynamics, beige to turquoise, you’ll understand the diversity of worldviews. You just have to peg them into their stages.

@Hojo There are no aliens, only mind.

Not a ‘full understanding’, because that would imply you can’t go deeper.

We don’t have to worry about that anymore.

This experience should make you engage in spirituality more, not less. The mind is the cause of all suffering, and you have to use spirituality to undo the mind’s illusions.

@Hojo You obviously have access to experiences most of us will never have.

@Someone here There is no death. There is only the dream.

@tuckerwphotography When Leo says God, he isn’t talking about a concept. Yes, God is a concept, but you need a concept to communicate something. What he’s actually talking about can’t be put into words, so God is the best way he can describe it. Don’t confuse the concept of God for the actual thing. The real thing can’t be communicated!

How do you know that?

@PenguinPablo If the mind wasn’t so powerful you would’ve been awake a long time ago.

Wrong. Everyone is just an imagination in your mind. The mind’s illusion has you totally hypnotised. Solipsism is the only possible truth.

This is typical Stage Blue spirituality.

You can be awake 24/7 and live your life. I’m doing it.

This isn’t accurate. People don’t move down the spiral as they age. Their main political views will remain the same. It’s just that the new generation will always be more liberal, hence old people are viewed as conservative.

The suffering was caused by your thoughts of the man’s scratches. Mind is the cause of suffering, that’s it.

@omar30 You should study Islam in the 7th century. Back then, being a Muslim and being a jihadi were synonymous. “Fight those who believe not in Allah and the last day” 9:29, “kill the associators wherever you find them,” 9:5. It wasn’t until the Abbasid rule of 750 that Islam became a civilisation.

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Those blood-thirsty terrorists really have clean chakras don’t they.

Not necessarily. If we find a piece of document that historians agree comes from the Buddha, and it contains the Buddhist teachings as we know them today, then I’ll believe that he was enlightened. But we have nothing. No documents, no records, no artefacts. Nothing. Evidence is the only way to know what’s real and what’s not. Without evidence you get conspiracy theories and false beliefs.

He was a powerful leader for sure. But obviously not spiritual. I completely disagree with people who say that religions were founded by enlightened beings. There is absolutely no evidence for that. In fact the historical records we do have all contradict this. For example, you see so many spiritual teachers saying that Jesus was an enlightened master. But when you look at the historical evidence we have, they all point to a Jewish apocalyptic preacher, like many others in his day. I also don’t believe that Buddha was enlightened, since there is absolutely no historical evidence of any kind to support that. Historians don’t even know if he existed!

@shahryar As someone who’s studied Muhammad (to an extent), you’re right in that he was your typical stage Red warlord. He definitely wasn’t a spiritual person, he was materialistic. That being said, he also wasn’t your ‘average’ person either. When he started his preaching, he was living in a tiny village in the middle of the desert. 50 years later, his followers had conquered everything between Iran and Morocco. So in that sense he was not your average nomad.