Salvijus

The shift does not make you who you are. But the shift is what is referred to as realization of who we are. The shift is of the paramount importance. Being awake and completely unaware of it is of no value.

True. But it's possible to be completely unaware of our infinite nature and instead be identified with a limited body-mind identity. The shift of perception from a limited identity towards unlimited identity is what is referred as Awakening. We are not already awakened until this shift of perception happens and it happens only by increase of awareness. I know I'm repeating myself here but it feels appropriate to say it one more time.

@Princess Arabia I'm not disagreeing that we are already who we are. I'm disagreeing that we are already self-realized of who we are. Realization of who we are requires deepening of awareness to greater and greater depths. And that's a process.

By dropping the false identity that we believe ourselves to be we become more authentic and more true to who we truly are. So you see, there is a process of growth from being identified with what we are not to being more and more truthful. And how truthful one is depends on how self aware they are. And how self aware one is can have many degrees.

The reason I raised this point is because it dismantles the idea that we are already awake. In truth we are blind fools in need of lots of illumination still lol.

The question is how aware are we of who we truly are? As opposed to holding a false identity with the body-mind only. This awareness have degrees. Depending on the depth on this awareness can we judge the depth of one's enlightenment or knowledge of themselves.

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The interesting thing I found in the video is that he claims God and everything spiritual can be proven using logic alone. And if there is one characteristic of high iq is that they are extremely logically consistent and leave no room for fantasies. It's interesting because usually intellectuals tend to thing everything spiritual to be illogical and woo woo. And here he is. Lol.

I think you guys don't even understand half of what he's saying. To criticize him is a bit arrogant of you.

Interesting one.

Lol this thread

You should give people advice how to be so free spirited. That's the most impressive thing for me in you.

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Yes. At the very beginning of our history itself it stands. Waiting for your acceptance. Infinitely patient. Lol

There is no how. Everyone knows that they exist and that they are concious. That's actually the only knowledge that you have in the end. I exist as what? That's a different question. But that I am, right here right now, is knowledge in everyone that requires no proof for it is the absolute undeniable knowledge.

You can know that you exist. That is one irrefutable knowledge right there. And if you can know what that "you" really is. That is actually a doorway to realize what free will really is btw.

It's an argument yet to be refuted.

The existence has to be the result of someone's will for if nobody has willed it, it wouldn't exist. That will is not seperate from you, hence you have free will. Or in other words, there is nothing that is not a result of free will.

To see through all the layers of self-grasping and false identity sufficient awareness is needed. That's what practices are supposed to bring about. Without that awareness transcendce is just intellectual.

That one particular video has instructions on how to activate the heart through desire. It's a little bit like a guided meditation towards the end. As the heart opens through the simple instructions, universal christ energy begins to pour itself down through the crown into the body. That alone can be a very invigorating, uplifting and healing experience.

It's called pranic healing 😂 Nah there're actually infinite other ways of getting there besides that. Truth be told, I've been trying to show you how since the very first post I made to you (or the very first video) . Anything is still yet to sink in tho.

The thing called prana would do wonders I believe. It's that thing that makes you feel like you're walking few inches above the ground because you're so full of aliveness. I can personally attest to it in case that means anything to you.

Bravo, bravo. Where did you do the retreat, if I may ask? I'm interested aswell.

Haha, that's some iron steel skeptism you got then 👍

The video I linked would have destroyed your skepticism.