Willy Phallicus

Since nothing is impossible and you're the author of that script if that's how you want to play it then that's how it will play out. You're perfectly free and perfectly free to choose. Whatever you decide is possible will become your dream. I admit, its really tough to reconcile things like this is literally a conversation you are having with yourself and that the people in my dream are just dreams Im dreaming of having their own dreams which are also my dreams since there is only one dreamer when you are looking at it through the prism of human consciousness.

Discussing it with logic and explaining it with logic are two different things. If logic worked you would have gotten answers to your questions in two or three posts and it would be /thread. It's not like we haven't dug up the right scroll yet - we haven't found the logic because it doesn't exist and everyone knows it. So its not easy or hard - its impossible. When you're dealing with the impossible you gotta rise to meet it and there's no way to interpret the impossible through your run of the mill rational discourse. The divine is not rational or irrational, its meta-rational. Your only recourse is through metaphor. What you're pointing too is beyond human existence and thus human language and human understanding. It cannot be described - only sensed/felt/experienced. Divine infinity can be understood intellectually. That's why guru is good work if you can get it. But knowing of it and knowing thyself are still two different things and one cannot impart knowing through logic/language alone. Its a guide to the answer not an answer unto itself.

If logic could touch the divine there would be nothing to discuss as logic would have worked it all out already.

Whatever you want to be "real" is what will be "real". You tell yourself they're having their own experience and poof! They're telling you about all the experiences they are having and you have no reason to doubt them as you see people having their own experiences and you are living your own experience which is their experience and vice versa. Its a hall of mirrors. Your dreams are having their own dreams and their dreams are as real to them as your dream is to you. The whole infinitely powerful god thing in action. Nothing is off the table - including pretending you're not alone, which you most definitely are. From the level we are communicating 'paradox' is the only way we "humans" can look at it but while the you can't square the circle in this dimension there are higher dimensions where all such paradoxes resolve themselves. Then don't waste your time hating anyone because its just you hating yourself and you're doing that out of love anyway so don't take life so seriously. This place is a clusterfuck but maybe rightfully so.

It might start there but when the Infinite is part of the equation(is the equation) linear logic and linear thinking are useless. The reality is profound and it requires a profound depth of mind to contemplate it. The old logic which the humans have always employed when pondering the mysteries is trite and insufficient. No one can give the OP what they are looking for.

That thing you want to know cannot be apprehended by logical thinking. A whole new faculty is required.

Order and chaos are dual aspects of one reality. Order is inherent within chaos and chaos always lurks within all ordered systems. Order is rigid, chaos is amorphous. Order is affirmative, chaos is negation. Order without chaos is pure abstraction, chaos without order is unmanifest nothing. The dynamic between chaos and order is known as the dialectic...

Come on now. Know Thyself means you know. Human vs God is a fluid dynamic without any obvious line of demarcation between the poles - its fuzzy.

Fully? No. Not while you're occupying a meatsuit. You can get the occasional taste in the meantime however. If you haven't experienced the reality then to you its just a story.

Some people have found truth through pleasure although that probably wasn't there intention. There are plenty of tales of people finding the infinite through orgasm or looking into the eyes of their newborn child and so on. So would excruciating physical pain. Agreed, 100%. Ego death is a myth. It just completely submits when dad is in the room.

If its just asking then you don't have to ignore anything. Some might posit that in the throes of pleasure or pleasure seeking you are avoiding the truth in some way but that's more spiritual dogma than concrete reality. Suffering is a terrific catalyst for truth seeking and discovery without a doubt but it's not the only way.

Why not both?

The figment of something else's dream. Human is the pattern that the dreamer has conjured. There's no separation between rock and baby but there are plenty of differences (once the mind starts applying labels). I don't know where souls fit into that equation. There's no shortage of paradoxes however.

Cuz society let it all get away from them hundreds of years ago.

Yeah but after you do that you find out nothing is impossible you kinda want to go out and do the impossible. I suppose some would say that's falling back into ego or whatever but I don't think that necessarily has to be the case.

The naturalist and the conspiracy theorist are both half right and half wrong. For example, the conspiracy theorist wants to tell us that planet durp is an absolute contrivance of elitist and evil Black Popes. He is wrong about that but elitist, evil black popes do exist and humans are a resource like any other. As for who is specifically drawn to them (based on your correlation) I'd say open minded people but that's a double edged sword.

Enlightenment has just as much potential to turn you into a total asshole as it does to turn you into a compassionate and magnanimous human being. That's not an either/or deal either. You could be totally righteous but still have your asshole moments or vice versa. As far as telling the mountain to move and having it move magic stuff this isn't the realm for that. This isn't home. One day you will go *On and if you managed liberation here the promise and miracle of the infinite will be there for you.

Shrooms try to kill me every trip now. Unless we're talking about micro dosing here which I dont bother with. If psychedelics were that good for you more would be better and that's been proven demonstrably false many times. The benefits of these types of drugs are mental, not physical - and still subject to abuse like anything else.

This is why I can't go to church. No place to drop "apparently god likes gang bangs" and have it taken seriously.

That's probably the case for most but there are systemic anomalies that are not driven by fear or desire.

The guru can't give you truth. Nor can anyone else. They can only point to it and hope you do your homework. All of us are in the dark on many matters and all of us are always barking up some wrong tree in some area of our thinking and perception - it's guaranteed - but sentience is not about knowledge of the external. So if you're going in circles its because you're still in the dark.

The tin foil hate people have plenty of good reasons to be paranoid. Their biggest problem is they let the paranoia get the better of them. There is no easy way around the Powers That Be and its not like the Powers That Be are giving us the option so the easiest way for most to intellectually resolve the impasse is just to deny the existence of the Powers That Be.

You gotta get beyond the question of "is this real?" It's real enough. The question has always been is what is within you more real than it? If yes, then welcome to the kingdom. If no, then the dead shall bury the dead.

Gurus are ultimately a joke because you're still seeking in the external. The good gurus and sacred texts will directly or indirectly tell the seeker all the seeker really needs to know or do: Forget the world of man and go within where the kingdom of heaven is. Seek the silence.

Spoiler alert: Its true. So you can relax that attachment to needing it to be true. Something tells me you probably won't do that since it sounds like you're not done failing yet but as long as you keep seeking ye shall find.