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I don't think there's a movie quite as anviliciously stage orange as Meet The Robinsons If you didn't hear it the first time, don't worry, you'll hear the message of the movie 20 other times.
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Rationality Rules shows us just how to beat main tactic used by the alt right This tactic is the oldest trick in the book of plausible deniability. The "I was only kidding" defense has been used by many an impractical jokester when confronted on being a douchebag. On the internet, this is known as schrodinger's douchebag. Basically, I meant it if it goes over well and I'm kidding if it doesn't. This defense is best countered by pointing out just how offensive the joke really is. Of course, Nick doesn't care but that itself reveals that he is in stage red. Stage blue and above abide by the golden rule. The morality that Nick Fuentes abides by only seems to cover himself and maybe also his in-group. Most westerners are above stage red and are naturally repulsed by such utter disregard for the suffering of others. They would most likely face a lot of guilt and shame in Nick's shoes. The thing with him is that he's shameless and relishes in provoking people. Nick says that people need to grow up, implying that empathy is a childish trait. The irony here is that his behavior is consistent with a stage that most people go through and grow out of.
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That's a very good point. A societal collapse such as a zombie apocalypse would regress society below stage blue. It would most likely lead to a regression to stage purple since the world would be so dangerous that people need to group together in order to survive.
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When I saw this video, I immediately thought of this forum. This seems like something unlocked at stage orange, green, or yellow.
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Infinity16 replied to Hardkill's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Productivity might be up but so is instability. The Fragile States Index measures 12 factors from 0 to 10 with higher numbers indicating more instability. Each country gets a score from 0 to 120. The main contributors to instability in the US are group grievance and factionalized elites. The US hovered in the mid 30s from 2006 up until Donald Trump won an election, leading to an increase in the score, peaking at 46.6 in 2022 (each year's score is based on events from the previous year) before going down slightly in the following years. https://fragilestatesindex.org/country-data/ -
Infinity16 replied to Apparition of Jack's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I can think of two more: 🟪 Apocalypse The west has fallen. Billions must die. Likely to result from a nuclear war (during the cold war before the USA and Russia reduced their stockpiles by 90%) or some other apocalypse The only way to survive such a hostile world is to form bands which have enough collective knowledge for survival. It's unknown if AI can lead to this. Global warming is unlikely to do so but may exasterbate other crises. 🟧 🟩 New mode of government The nation-state gets replaced with a new mode of government. Just as the nation-state arose from changing attitudes regarding nationalism and economies of scale, this new mode of government will arise from a rise in cosmopolitanism and a decreasing scale to violence. This changing attitude will result from online work resulting in people being able to work from wherever they want in the world. During the peak of economies of scale, tanks dominated the battlefield. Drones are a game-changer, essentially making the war in Ukraine like WWI. 3D printing is now starting to reduce the scale of violence, allowing ethnic minorities in Myanmar to protect themselves from a genocidal regime. This will also make it easier for troubled individuals and organized crime to carry out acts of violence. Because of the reduced scale, the new mode of government will, on average, consist of less territory than the nation-state. The stage orange mode of government will operate akin to a business. Cities will be designed around profiting off of digital nomads. Revenue will come from rent and severance taxation. Land and capital will not be taxed as they will be mobile. Each mode of government is strengthened by the next stage because that stage accounts for the previous stage's limitations The stage red mode of government, the empire, is strengthened by stage blue because it leads to more stability. The nation-state, the stage blue mode of government, is strengthened by stage orange because it results in more diversity and innovation. The next stage will be strengthened by stage green because the main limitation of orange is that it lacks a sense of belonging. One major footnote here is that the stage orange mode of government will be the first to be less militarily capable than the last. This is because the previous is able to engage in total war, that is the use of all assets in a conflict. -
Infinity16 replied to Apparition of Jack's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
We are currently in the stage blue mode of government which is the nation-state. It is distinct from the stage red mode of government (empire) in that it is supposed to be a state consisting of one people, united by an idea or by ethnicity. Stage blue oftentimes runs on an in-group vs an out-group. As such, citizens will always matter more than non-citizens. -
Infinity16 replied to Hardkill's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
That is somewhat true. The black community spans the whole spectrum much like white people. If you've ever seen the Boondocks, each of the main characters represents a different stage. Blue and ornge are about conformity while red and green are about revolution. Even though red and green are the opposite, they can still be aligned when we're talking about nonprivileged demographics. -
Ukraine has been having this problem since the end of the Soviet era. The war will likely exasterbate this.
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What you're seeing here is pre-orange spirituality. The problem is that pre-orange spirituality is typically dogmatic. I have recently begun to notice the role that leading questions and thought terminating cliches play in evangelical Christianity. Stage orange is typically detrimental to spirituality, but it is doing away with the spirituality that is dogmatic.
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Infinity16 replied to Hardkill's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
I think what this reveals is that while stage green has enjoyed an outsized influence for the past 15 years, not many Americans are at that stage. Democrats are mostly at stage orange. The Republican Party is divided between orange and blue but clearly has some stage red as demonstrated by Trump being president. -
You can notice point 2 in spades. The US was already doing well beforehand but Trump seems to be under the impression that the ideal foreign policy is to disregard the will of other nations. Trump's supporters say that it makes America look strong. I say that it makes America look like a bully. Also brings me to the quote by Stephen Miller. A day ago, he said that it would be alright if the US took Greenland under the justification that Denmark is too weak to defend it. https://thehill.com/policy/international/5694105-stephen-miller-greenland-acquisition-defense/ Stephen Miller embodies a fascistic foreign policy. I don't use that adjective lightly. Trump's foreign policy seems to be a populist one without much thought put into it. Stephen Miller seems like he's trying to justify naked imperialism.
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Am I the only one who thinks sounds like something a movie villain would say?
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I personally think georgism will be more feasible than socialism, both for political reasons and for the geopolitical paradigm.
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Infinity16 replied to Infinity16's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
You probably find this mindset in poorer countries with unreliable governments. In countries like Russia, China, Turkmenistan, and North Korea, the government is simply a mafia that controls a nation. I wonder if this shapes society or if the state is shaped by society. Russia has no history of liberalism. It wasn't long after the end of the monarchy that it became a one party autocracy. The brief period that Russia was friendly with the west was a time of high unemployment, crime, and mortality. Putin promised order to the Russian people and they got it. Plus the Russian people tend very heavily towards conservatism. Russia would be the future of the US should Trump succeed in doing away with democracy.
