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It’s not evil because existence doesn’t care about survival. You only see these things as evil because you think survival is the most important thing, but the reality is that it is not, and suffering is beautiful. And this comes from a guy who suffers right now and has lost so much hope because I’m stuck in a deep loop. You have to understand that if a person dies with cancer, that’s not evil, that’s life. You need to stop comparing it so that if a person survives cancer, that is somehow better than if they didn’t. If we are only talking from the ego’s perspective, then of course it is better that someone survives, but in the bigger picture there is no good or bad.

@Hatfort Just because millions of people come out of it fine doesn’t make it right. People survive bad ideas all the time that doesn’t mean the ideas deserve a free pass. The real question is whether it’s true, and whether it teaches people to think for themselves or just obey. And yeah, you can call it ‘acceptance’ all you want, but if you teach kids not to question or feed them fear like eternal punishment, that still leaves a mark, even if it doesn’t break everyone.

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Let’s start over, I have said that it is wrong not to allow children to question things they learn from others, it is not wrong that children go to church or to a Buddhist temple, but it must be questioned, and in churches, I hope you know what a church is, there is over 80 percent discouragement of questioning their beliefs, please try to understand what I’m saying, you say so much but still very little wisdom comes out of you.

By religion I mean belief in the supernatural or a god, often with rituals and worship.

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Like I said, you don’t understand deep things. I know exactly what you meant, so stop twisting it. And you have not shown why my arguments are wrong, you just say they are wrong. You sound like this: ‘Why is the Bible true? Because it is true!’ Do you see how stupid that sounds? And somehow you’ve made religious people seem more thoughtful than you, which should be impossible, because your arguments and responses are worse than the Bible and I use the Bible as toilet paper. If you respond with something cringe again, then our conversation is over.

Everyone should do this😇

Just because people make mistakes and it’s inevitable doesn’t mean we should stop trying to make fewer mistakes. You are basically saying that it’s not worth trying to change things because it’s impossible or difficult. And you still don’t agree with my opinions, or rather facts that you are not willing to acknowledge. You say it’s not abusive without explaining why. I don’t need to calm down, because you are really an embarrassing person. It’s people like you who ruin society. It’s people like you who stay silent and don’t want real progress. Or maybe you do, but then you need to understand reality and not hide from the truth.

It’s a difficult question, but I think it is both good and bad for parents to limit certain insights for children. However, curiosity must be allowed to exist and not be hidden, and as a parent, you should not get angry when a child is curious or asks many questions that may be difficult to answer. As a child, I was actually not very curious about things. I probably just thought that adults knew best and didn’t really know what questions I should be asking.

You don’t really understand religion if you think it is only about community. Telling children not to question their faith is wrong and mentally abusive. Saying that someone will be eternally tortured for stealing a candy bar is wrong and abusive. You are a really embarrassing person. You don’t understand deep things, only superficial ones. You should be ashamed.

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I don’t think it is always wrong to force someone against their will, but as I said, it depends on the context. A child has a lower level of awareness than an adult, so it makes sense that adults should have more decision-making power. However, my main concern is not allowing a child to question things. That is actually my biggest issue. For example, if a parent says school is important and the child asks why, and the parent replies that it is important for a good life, I think that can be wrong if it shuts down further questioning. At the same time, you might simplify or adjust explanations if a child is very rebellious towards society, but there needs to be a balance. Still, I’m not even sure whether what I’m trying to describe is actually possible to achieve.

@Natasha Tori Maru Great point!

In my opinion, yes, school is abuse.

You’re narrowing “abuse” too much. Kids don’t choose how they’re raised. Freedom also includes being allowed to question what you’re taught.

It’s like a paradox. Sex can feel good as a way to escape emptiness because it creates a sense of unity, but afterwards it often leaves you feeling even more empty, and you start chasing it again and again in an endless loop. Community in the church is similar, just a bit less brutal.

I agree with most of what you’re saying, but believing in something like God isn’t good even if it feels good. You should never believe in something unless there are solid reasons for it. People need to start seeking the truth, not illusions.

This is very true and not just a biased opinion.

Religion can turn people into psychological robots. It becomes part of their identity, so they don’t even see it as a belief anymore. They think they’re thinking freely, but they’re just operating inside something they never chose. And once you’re in that deep, it’s hard to step out unless something really shakes you.

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You’re still missing the point. No one’s saying kids shouldn’t be exposed to things. That’s normal. The issue is how it’s done. There’s a difference between showing a child something and telling them this is the truth before they can question it. Intent doesn’t really matter here. You can mean well and still shape how a kid sees reality in a way they don’t understand yet.

I agree with you on this. If we were as unbiased as possible, most people would probably come to the same conclusion. I’ll use less AI-style language going forward.

Kids should be kids. They shouldn’t be bound to something just because their parents love it, especially when it’s about not questioning things or accepting one specific view of life. If a child is taught to just believe without questioning, that’s not a healthy direction for development. Kids need space to think for themselves, ask questions, and form their own understanding of the world. They should be free to explore ideas, not locked into one way of thinking from the start.