MightyMind

I'm curious, when did Israeli deception begin? Did it just start at the beginning of Israel? If so, what were the conditions that raised a culture to behave in the way they do? If it didn't begin with the nation "Israel", then what's its story? Has this been discussed in this thread?

I wonder if there are any vipassana practitioners (Goenka style) on here? I've done a couple 10 day retreats and I wonder what additional teachings they incorporate into retreats for older students

@Tistepiste thanks for the share!

@theleelajoker "Repeating a few basic instructions" is exactly what I experienced. "Just return your attention to your nostrils and observe sensation". Problem with that, is that when my attention was on the head region, it was very activating and it made things worse. But when I placed my attention on my bottom and extended it into the earth it was very grounding and the energies settled. Regardless, I think this approach is potent and offers a great container for many people.

and the failure of most who encounter the venus project is thinking that it is to be imitated or that it provides all the answers. Instead, it is an example of the orientation, attitude, and approach that is required for us to bring about great change.

@Leo Gura Well what happened if we directed our attention towards building new ideas and with a focus on the infrastructure (farming, housing, education, affordable fixable vehicles etc). What happens if we did it in a focused and creative way which brought many minds together and where we begin to build a resource center of solutions. We'd be potent, and in turn it could be the beginning of something big, which could lead to the building of new civilizations. Building new civilizations is not something that happens over night, nor is it brought forth by one person or one idea. Although, look at what came from the mind of this guy, one person, and yet we are many...many who claim to be God, all powerful, all capable etc. This should be possible, no? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLclf96rJCc

@Leo Gura maybe a little naivety is a good thing. And I never said anything about government. I'm speaking to something much more than any kind of government, or "solution", but those realities would be within the umbrella I could speak to. The child's curiosity is required for this type of conversation. I'm looking to create through dialogue. Anyone interested in building new civilisations?

@Leo Gura not at all. I'm not talking about forming any one organization. To understand what I'm speaking to requires the curiosity and imagination of child.

@Cocolove Yes I noticed that too. I loved the evening talks but I did notice the disregard for other approaches to spiritualty. They talk about welcoming to all faiths but then Goenka made his jokes...funny they were but I imagine a religious or practitioner of another way might be rubbed the wrong way. @theleelajoker Thank you for sharing! One of the reasons I asked is because during my last 10 day, I approached things differently than what was prescribed and I had an intense experience which I wondered is experienced in later classes. Instead of tracking sensation up and down the body, I found myself becoming more and more aware as the awareness all through out the body and so in a way I was noticing all sensation all at once. While focusing on being aware as the awareness, this became my meditation. Mistake it was. This was extremely activating and a storm of emotions, energies, thought forms arose at such a pace I thought I was going to go crazy. At the same time was experiencing full body ecstasy. I thought about asking the teacher about my experience but then in seeing how he responded to other students I thought I was better off figuring it out myself. I brought my attention down to my bottom and paid attention with less intensity and this really helped to calm things down. I then went back to the method. It was still intense but not in the way I found myself doing it.

Yup. Politics is designed to give the illusion of a functional government which then has the people pitted against each other...and it's working Imagine if the people organized, united around a commonality, and begun to build. It may be a pipe dream but the possibility is still available.

@Raze I'd consider looking at the primary sources which have shaped his world view and have him saying what he says. With that in mind, I've seen Israeli's speak to how they have departments that focus on keeping the internet Israeli friendly (wikipedia in particular) so that is something to consider. And now that you've brought up Zionism, here's something for people to consider. Investigate all the Jewish organizations and people there are, which aim to help "refugee's" and are playing a big part in facilitating mass migration and demographic changes through out the West. I'm not suggesting they or many of them have ill intent, but that for various reasons they are participating in this. Couple that with the Palestinian protests and the scores of believers and Imams who speak about world domination. Due to all that I've seen I'd suggest these protests are being used as a vehicle for the muslim brotherhood. All in all I'd suggest, (a small few) Jews and muslims, for various reasons they are working in tandem for conquest and to colonize. The rest are caught up in something that is bigger than them. The middle east horrors we are seeing, they are brought forth by those who believe in human sacrifice and see trauma as a tool to be used, on everyone including the west who watches, and who desperately wants to help. @enchanted Thanks for the share! I'll have a listen.

@ryoko "I say both are wrong. Just expand your home to include everyone. There's no other way. " I don't think you realize what comes with that.... That's what many on this site are not getting. It's as if the natural immunity/biological defense has been disarmed. There's a world of forces that will take advantage of your "goodness". Which means locals and foreigners be used like tools, for the footage I'm seeing, this is a paid operation, who's paying for it? Boats of young men, to buses of healthy men, all men. Dressed nicely and a nice cell phone to boot. "But they're fleeing war!" ??? But where are the women and children? In these instances, none, just all young healthy men roomed up in hotel rooms which is paid for by the public. But don't question it? Naivety kills, and I say this with love There's a lot footage. We might want to re examine this and make an effort to look. Some of us are trying to warn you of realities we are seeing

@ryoko and now I'm questioning what I've said. Feel free to elaborate on this. And for those who think this is off topic, to the original post, I'd suggest this is getting to the root of things, and relating to many other posts on this site

@ryoko I think you missed the point/context of why I mentioned guard rails. We're more aligned than in disagreement.

@ryoko should you build a new system with no guard rails in place to minimize the potential for corruption? because we live in a world of corrupted humans and to create systems that will raise us above the low level consciousness will require generations, and so with out guard rails built within a new system, you will most likely fall again.

@Elliott real, which you are downplaying by saying it's anecdotal. And when you see the amount of it, you might just realize your stats are misleading. In some cases you would be correct. But should we throw nuance out the window? For example, would they be safer with Afghani men who like dancing boys? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY3JFEEbB30&t=148s - and this is the point I've been trying to make. There are harsh realities out there and if we are not discerning to what flows into ones country, and the amount of it, the next generation will pay the consequences for our ignorance of the world and it's diversity.

@ryoko "you missed the whole point. guardrails = patch work better systems = architecture which is "actually" better" I'm suggesting with the guardrails in place (and more), we wouldn't need better systems for we would have been making them and we would therefore not have the current system we have now. Instead we've been obstructed and manipulated for a long time. But I agree, with what is here now and in order to deal with it, patch work won't be sufficient. We should be building a new systems, from the ground up, which are brought about with a consideration of the whole, and from there a new type of wholly government/politic can come.

@ryoko A thoughtful response, thank you. "The world is an unequal place, resource allocation is stagnant and perverted." - I would suggest resource allocation is perverted and corrupted, because it's designed that way by a small few who like to profit and monopolize and so in turn it's formed to benefit them. It doesn't have to be organized conspiracy for this play out, but rather just a small few who are effective at what they do and they work together because they have more in common with each other than they do the common person. Without rail guards in place that minimize it then you have the system you so speak of. = "This invariably creates issues, scarcity drives people to crimes, distorts their sense of survival into something ugly. It's not a problem which is seeking some hotfix, it's the symptom of the very system's existence"....and yet the system's current form is because of the vampiristic behaviour of a small few who work in a way, as you suggested, that makes it nearly impossible for the crowd to recognize it ("the system in place will make sure nobody will have that breathing room to see it")

footage that shows violence on young children is real but you call it anecdotal. "Oh, but it's just a small number"...you aren't seeing what I'm seeing meanwhile you speak to charts and numbers, all of which can be classified in ways that can be manipulated.

@Elliott see the ongoing footage and you'll realize your stats, which can be manipulated, mean nothing

@ryoko elaborate on what you think is the real problem ("countries" and "money") And what's a remedy, alternative?

@ryoko nah, the evil is ignorance and action guided by it. Money is a tool, but usury is sickness, profit off of debt = sickness. Countries led by good people don't promote such bad ideas, they eradicate it and our countries are not led by such good people and so to blame "countries" or money, this is ignorance ;P and I say this with love and appreciation for engaging so thank you

@Vinnie thank you for speaking up. To all else reading this here are my thoughts.... It's disgusting what I've been seeing and it's shocking, the amount of footage, news reports and anecdotal, and to have people down play or dismiss these realities. It's as if they've been psychologically manipulated and primed to, in their own way, to impede the facing of this reality. Usually it requires them to get gang banged, continuously, for hours or days, and they clue in to what some of are warning of - this is happening, wake up people. And it's being assisted by the UN's replacement migration ideas https://www.un.org/development/desa/pd/sites/www.un.org.development.desa.pd/files/unpd-egm_200010_un_2001_replacementmigration.pdf Read the above pdf and you'll see, that in 2000, they were worried about population decline. Instead of creating incentives for the indigenous population to repopulate they insisted you import other cultures with other value systems and world views. That's how you dissolve a culture, it does not strengthen it, it eradicates it and in turn a new culture will be formed. Do you like be a part of a social engineering experiment? Told to just accept it. "It's for your betterment".... Or are you a creator? Or are is it your destiny to be a pawn, to be shaped and molded, a good little boy?

@Elliott there's been no shortage of footage of violence for years. Coming from foreigners on the indigenous of Europe. Your stats don't mean anything when little women are being violated in broad day light. You're gaslighting. "Don't see what you saw.", "it's rare" = sick. Meanwhile girls are being fucked with broken bottles, acid thrown on their face.

@Elliott being anti-immigration would actually be a way to preserve ones culture, so I'm not sure why you say what you say. I think we're talking past each other and not getting what is being laid out.