MightyMind

@Lyubov those working to bring forth your digital gulag agree! fight! fight! fight!

I think this is an error to see any group (liberal, conservative, centrist, progressive) as being more conscious than the other. It all depends on the context and build up. I mean, there are some examples where conserving (conservative) some aspects of a culture would be a good idea and so in those moments a conservative perspective may be more conscious than those that may want things to progress (progressive) in the current direction when that may make matters worse. But, if a conservative who tries to conserve but does so in an unconscious way, this may then be very destructive and hence forth not conscious. In theory classifying political leans in a hierarchical way might be useful, but my point is, I think there's more complexity to it all. And so in viewing reality in this way, I see this theory/world view does not properly over lay to reality and in turn it could impede our ability to see the nuances of life. Thoughts?

@Someone here I like your take on it! While I do see divine dialogue and insight I also thought that while I listened to a reading of the quran, that parts of it seemed like it came from a similar mind that wrote the old testament...which reflects a tyrant who demands mindless obedience and if you don't obey, punishment in all the cruel ways possible.

@Hibahere with what you now know, do you think the west should be concerned of a growing muslim population and what may come with that reality?

@Hibahere What are your thoughts on sharia law? Some say it has nothing to do with the Qur'an others say it comes with it.

@Scholar I'm not trying to compare them, I'm trying to illuminate there is more going on within "the left" than what the left realizes. And, both sides, "far right/far left" contribute to and escalate the situation; both sides in a way, call each other forth into formation. they play off of each other, and so we must address both sides consistently. This is why this conversation requires a thread of examples and elaboration. Again, my focus is NOT on making the case, that the left is worse than the right.

@Scholar Thanks for asking. I'll share one video that reflects what I've been seeing for years. While yes, in this video it looks like these are communists, not democrat/liberal but it's a good example of the language I see left leaning people use. I think though this requires it's own thread to unpackage and add to over time to really make my case...which is that there are many who vote for and who pose as the left, who advocate for violence in order to achieve their aims. I believe if I show a few cases it will be dismissed and downplayed and so sometime in the next week or two, I'll start a thread to properly examine this. For clarity, I'm not here to argue one side is worse than the other. I think this is a common mistake I see many make. Truth is both sides have concerns which should be addressed and yet both sides have troubles with coming to terms with the shit in their own house - (which I will include communists into the left because they tend to conceal themselves with leftist causes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_PfFNetgkg

@Elliott Using the word, Nazi, is a reflection you've been programmed to view you're opposition as evil which leads to dehumanization of the "other" side. You're no better than those you oppose. In fact, this way of speaking encourages violence and bigotry. Why do moderators not call this out?

@Leo Gura "non violent talking is what the left is about". Sure, in the common person, they believe this. And yet there are no shortage of people who lean left, who are working in our schools and systems who see and say violence is a necessary tool to over turn the current paradigm. The left has a problem which it is still not acknowledging. If you want those on the right to take you seriously I encourage people to make an effort to look into what I'm referring to.

@Joshe Far enough. I wasn't referring to "prominent" figures all the while though there seems to be this game of who's worse, the right or left, which is counter productive. I find people on this site are fixated on the rights wrongs but lack self awareness of one's own house. Unfortunately the left has many activists working to do the things I stated which are destructive to America. And when it is denied, downplayed, or ignored this is not good. Be consistent is all that I ask and over the years of seeing the conversation on here I have yet to see it. Blaming the left while not taking responsibility within ones own house is not conscious so I'd suggest we make an effort to hear criticisms.

edit: "No prominent leftist has called for a war on the right." = for anyone believing this, I'd encourage you to investigate all of the left/progressives who are working systematically (through education/law/politics/healthcare...), to dismantle the current system. Included in this is a worldview that places all white people in a position of colonizer/oppressor = where do you think that leads? when a younger generation is raised to view all people of a skin tone as the oppressor? These leftist activists are proponents of violence in order to achieve their aims and they state it openly. There's no shortage of footage and documentation verifying this. Again, the well meaning left is oblivious to what is going on in their own house. It's been going on for years but unfortunately many of the sane people who lean left don't realize the extent of wack jobs in their own house. While you might not hear them say "this is war on the right", they are actively working in a deceptive/manipulative way to dismantle that which the right would like to preserve.

@Leo Gura Also consider, chalie was beginning to be labeled as anti semitic due to what he was questioning. This is why I say, both and left and right should simmer it. You're both targets for forces that what to destabilize the west and they want us at each others necks as this supports them and their aims.

trained marksman just murdered a human at a public event. think it through people.

the "shooter" is not the shooter. examine all the footage coming out which includes interviews of people there. this is not some random leftist or disgruntled person

https://x.com/ChoooCole/status/1965874157004165495 “When people stop talking, that’s when you get violence, that is when civil war happens”

@Flowerfaeiry maybe it's because your heart is still open? A connected feeling human being, this is good Some of my thoughts are that he engaged people in dialogue at time when certain words or world views were off limits, this is a good thing. Bad ideas can be critiqued and through dialogue we get more clarity. And in that space his ideas were open to be challenged. He created space on campus that challenged the approved and asserted narratives, when students in class rooms were being scolded for wrong thought.

@Leo Gura both sides are compromised and incompetent. both sides have contributed to the state of affairs. and generation to generation human beings unknowingly voted for it, we have all played our part May we all do better on this site. A man may have just been murdered for dialogue but we're worried about/fixated on, how some may now behave. We are focused on a potentiality, all the while what's taking place in reality?

@Inliytened1 There's evil forces working on both sides, should it not be called out?

@Jacob Morres both democrats and republicans have been duped for decades. it's literally ground hog day where each election I'm seeing both sides of voters think they have the higher ground and the other side just needs the right information. Meanwhile both parties have contributed to a debt that cannot be paid off which leaves the next generation a financial slave who's taxed in all directions.

@ryoko H.G. Wells, Julian/Aldous Huxley produced the books, New World Order, Things to Come (film of youtube), UNESCO: Purpose and Philosophy, and Brave New World. (1930's + 40's) When you factor in the above and then the scores of other intellectuals and influential folk who wrote material outlining their vision...coupled with the history and beginnings of orgs like League of Nations, UN, UNESCO, WHO, Fabian Society, Club of Rome, Planned Parenthood (all are influenced by eugenics), it looks like some have been attempting "something of that magnitude" and they are close to succeeding. Some want to design a digital gulag (SDG #11) and they are close to achieving this and so I'd suggest we attempt the impossible. Or, what would you suggest, should we just let things run their course? Should we not work to bring about change? if so how do you see that looking? The Agenda: Their Vision - Your Future (2025) | Full Documentary (4K) (United Nations and their Agenda 2030/50) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFHHOBiUrkg&t=612s H.G. Wells and his film, things to come. It ends in the year 2036 with smart cities which are run by a small few. It was made in the 1930's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knOd-BhRuCE&t=4136s

@Leo Gura there no shortage of intelligent and influential men, from many countries including America, who wrote about what I'm referring to. Going back a long long time, much longer than the creation of "Israel", non-relating people, from different lands, from Asia to America, who all echo the same thing which is the habit, behaviour, "cultural" upbringing of a people, and their doctrine which shaped and guided them. Dig deeper!

@Leo Gura You're not even scratching the surface and this is what I'm getting at. You're acting as if this came out of a vacuum, why? Do you think this behavior came out of nowhere? - ("theft, war, rape, ethnic cleansing, terrorism, manipulation, and deception) ??? Meaning, do you really think it started with Mossad and their motto? I'd suggest no, it didn't. Either you tiptoeing and playing a strategic game or? Investigate further back good sir

@trenton You make good points but porno in itself can be highly addictive and can lead one to being led by the flesh instead of the spirit. Now, I'm not suggesting a black and white take, but rather there are serious realities that can come with it. I'd suggest overall, in a world like to today, with a culture/nations who are still "asleep at the wheel", so to speak, when you incorporate mass porn and sexualization in adverts/movies/music, this is an overall negative. Raised in a culture who is unconscious/repressed realities with their sexaulity...these combinations don't produce good fruit. What's a middle way though, that's where my mind goes here as I type this. Thoughts?

@Inliytened1 I find that weird. If there is "Israeli deception" wouldn't it make sense to try to make sense of how it came to be? to see the continuum and context, I imagine this would help us better our understanding of what it is we are looking at.

@Anton Rogachevski "We cannot yet study or describe subjective experience in strictly material terms", "to study experience from within itself, through itself, and in its own terms — a task as philosophically demanding as it is necessary." - I really like this. I see this as something we have forgotten but now remembering, interesting times. I'll be following those links and having a read. Good share