Salariatu

Yes there is separation. The social construct consciousness is something that is not natural, is an invention anti life if you want. So there is separation. Because the idea of being interconnected is a mental idea of humans being linked in series, and that is not the case. One organism does not depend on another organism. That the plants produce oxygen for you, does not mean you are interconnected with plants. That we evolved from lesser forms of life means the same, that an organism like a mammal does not deepend on other organism to stay alive, not mentioning that an organism needs food, i'm talking strictly that an organism is not interconnected with another, only humans think that. Taking the exemple of being in space, having food and everything, you existance and being alive and continuing living does not depend on another organism per se. That all existence as matter comes from a bing bang, that is only a logical idea, was never proven, only in mathematics and not in practice as scientific experiment. Maybe we are more dependent on the constants of the universe than anything else, because we evolved this way, not that the universe fitted you and me, we fitted in the universe, adapted, evolved, etc. I think is more of a romantic spiritual pipe dream the idea of interconnectiveness. Because there is the creators, they exist, only on that reality humans believe and they graps that everything is interconnected, what people call the vibration of life or the vibration of existance or universal consciousness in other words. So yeah, thinking that God wants to experiment itself, is just the delusion of human consciousness and as i said, the spiritual pipe dream of only the self. Because the Creators still exist, they are not the universal consciousness of the living or the patterns of matter, they are something else at a level of the spirit realm or so called the astral realm, they are not entities. And yes i can prove this, but only to those really interested, there is the self and elightenment but also outside of self or outside existance and inside also, we have the source wich cannot be grasped, to much data. Can be experienced by esoterical techniques.

Yeah sure, good morning. take care.

Don't put the blame on me, i just responded to the main post of the thread. More specifically, the title of the thread.

I only told you that you don't know how reality works and nobody can know, is just being

Yes i can have an opinion, are you having a hard time? That you respond as to an enemy?

Did i mention that you can know something? I didn't.

It can only be known only the indoctrination of society, is based in reverse, what i mean is that society uses phychology to build an ego in people in a certain way, so those patterns can be known, what we call the ego mind. But, when you escape society's indoctrination, you will not know, nobody knows how the mind works outside of society's rules. Once someone awakens, you can know a little, some basic things, a system to use and live by it or a code, but the details, you don't know them. If you think you know, you are delusional, you did not awaken.

Reality does not work that way, Sadhguru is just explaining how hindu religion work and their beliefs.

Every person who are in the public view, Sandguru or Leo, in the end they do too much for others and they get caught in doing the right thing. Sandhguru is more delusional, Leo is less. Why i'm saying this? Because having the certainty on how reality works or the mind is a delusion on itself, nobody knows how it works. You are just being, cannot be explained.

Those you mentioned where maybe the most delusional. Because society is built on delusion, if those people of history would have been what is now written about them, now we would have an ideal society. A more enlightened society, etc. So in conclusion, those people where promoted by the rulers of society for a reason, to keep people asleep. I would not follow those that are popular in society, they are as low vibration as the dormant in society.

Well, its true, that guru promotes a cult but actualized.org also, but in a more mainstream manner and scientific approach. Because a cult is something you cannot prove. Per example the concepts of reality, you can't prove them as we know it from society, are just theories and speculation. The good thing is, we have sites like this to debate, but more than that is just speculation.

We are body and spirit. Those who die their spirit remain. The spirit is one wich the Creators. Infact, the spirits of the dead are all around us in society, they can be omnipresent, but society forgot this, only a few know. True consciousness is tapping into the spirit realm, what we call society's construct of the personal ego. So tapping in the spirit reaml, the true astral realm, is where real awakening starts, just thinking you will do it yourself it's almost impossible, because society and it's bias consciousness will send delusion your way 24/7 that you are already enlightened.

Take a mirror while you meditate.

James what happened to you? Did you became christian?

Nobody got enlightened, not Buddha, no humans. They just hallucinated and they accepted the society's ego to live a spiritual experience made up by people, another level in the Matrix. haha. Wake up!

This dream was created by the consciousness of society's ego, don't blame the Creators. Nobody knows what God is, people in spirituality think is the mass consciousness of the universe, hilarious. And then they go and worship vibrations

The first frase you mentioned is not true. Individuals suffer mainly because they are trapped in the society ego consciousness and at a subconscious level they identified themselves with that mass ego. So here you have it, the root of all suffering. Escape that and you awaken.

Hi! Satanism helped me to escape the christian mindset that western society has and also the main religions of the world and spirituality, also atheists have the christian midset unfortunately (the heroic system etc.). You need a natural force or mindset to escape the unnatural way of being of society, is where Satan comes in. Salut!

There is no triune god, that is esoterics implemented in society. You adopted the idea that you are the body, that you have a spirit and a soul because of the concept of the holy trinity. As a Satanist i can tell you this, that divinity is what you find in yourself, call it by the name you like but are not the hebrew ones. Esoteric explanation: You just adopted a foreign god of Israel and his Son. Those are not God, those are 73 people who died long time ago. Research what Is Shemhamforash, google it, the explicit name and what Jehova is, is a a collection of angels wich are 72 in number of what constitutes Jehova. Remains Jesus, he is in spirit, he died, as those 72 saints, people of Israel from their history. The trinity thing as esoterics, as religion as idiology is not new. Horus did the same as Jesus, Krishna and many many others during history (watch Zeitgeist: The Movie 2007. Christianity just copied the trinity concept.

You are just conceptualizing. Reality is there to discover and perceive. There is no such thing creating the physical reality with the mind, that is the spiritual pipe dream.

Stop calling reality or consciousness God. Becoming God or Awakened is a whole other spectrum. Stop identifying with the exterior, that is not you, you are only the body you have. Escape the matrix of society and don't be identified with it's ego. Sop believing that you have to kill your ego, you only have to reset and regain naturality, building a natural ego wich is an identity in yourself not outside, the true identity. Being the reason we follow the breath.

Escape that society ego ''agent smith'', and you awaken.

Witchcraft is real, but it works parallel with awakening. Usually people caught in self consciousness and spirituality, they only think they have the self and that they discovered superconsciosness within themselves, but little they know that they tapped in the ego consciousness of society and they lie to themselves that they are the whole consciousness of the universe. In reality things work more natural. Let me explain, that mind chatter, the majority of time is not coming from yourself, is coming from ego consciousness of society. Once you identify that, you move to what you really are, because you are not the Universe, nor the entire consciousness, you did not create shit :), you where just born on this planet. Now, once you awaken deeper and deeper, you will see that to maintain sanity you need a good system, be that system spirituality, atheism or and esoteric system. The majority of the spiritual pipe dreamers they follow a system, and they call and recall that they follow themselves only. In reality they are among the unawakened sheep. So, in the end, when someone trully awakens, the backlash of society is so great that you need a system, a current of thought apart from own breath. Being the reason some of us are helped by Demons per example. You have no idea what an entity is if you are already controlled by entities and you think it is yourself. So in conclusion, to those thinking this way i say to them, i'm sorry, awaken first, after that you tell me what an entity is and how you work and stop conceptualizing, that is only the mind. Thanks for reading

Society is anti-natural. It takes practice to regain naturality.

Self discovery. As much as you know yourself better, you become important at an energetical level. In simple words, the more awakened more important, not because someone says it, it how nature works.