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Fair and beautifully said. But if all I have is direct experience, and everything in my direct experience is impermanent, yet my direct experience itself is absolute, then the only conclusion I can take from that is indeed infinite dreaming. And if I can't take a conclusion from my direct experience, than I can never know. I have only had one mystical insight in my life and it was knowing with absolute certainty that my consciousness is invincible and absolute and therefore everything is imaginary. It was psychedelic induced. I predict it wasn't nearly as deep as you advanced psychonauts have had experiences, however those insights were absolute and I can't see how I ever thought that my consciousness was mortal and not absolute. I'll be honest and say that I'm wondering about consciousness after the physical dissolution, because there are probably not many adventures left for me in this body. My jaw is getting locked more by the day and I'm getting muscle cramps more frequently and chronic neck pain is increasing in ferocity. The relation between the body and consciousness is becoming more interesting to me. My mind wants to live life like a raging bull but my body is breaking down. And like I said I have become conscious that the body is imaginary yet the entire dream of life is the fucking body. It all feels so random and nihilistic yet I can't deny the absolute beauty of life and the world even when life and the world is becoming a horror show. And to be honest I don't even know what I desire anymore. My ego would say a life filled with adventures, sex and health, and all other ego cliches that I would list here. My higher self desires the egoless bliss free from the desires of the body. I'm confused, since both seem to be a pipe dream, at least while alive. I guess that is why I've grown to have an obsession with death over the years.
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Beautifully said brother.
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I will ask God whatever I want, since I am the subject suffering all of his constructions. There is nothing but desire in the end. All I can do is try to follow my desires, whether selfish or selfless. But God is the one who decides to create selfish creatures and whom suffer and have desires. So my concerns are valid. I never asked to be a limited creature with desires and fears, yet here I am. And now you're blaming me for wondering how to not suffer? Get off that high horse. If I throw you into hell you'll have the same concerns as me. It's as if you're saying to the victims of the LA fires, "God has a higher agenda with this". You're no different than some crazy Christian that you despise. Laughable that you're blaming limited souls for struggling with Gods infinite creation and ordeal.
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Stop this game of saying that I assume that stuff or something. I'm literally stating back to you what you claimed about reality and that its the same as what the other dude claimed, yet you have to denounce it all in some smuck way instead of actually discussing it. YOU are the one who claimed it. So why don't you explain why you claim infinite reincarnation instead of saying I am the one who assumes it.
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Holy fuck. Thats heavy as fuck man. Thanks for sharing your report. It corroborates with some of the fears i've been having about evil lately, going ever deeper, wondering where is the end and if or when God can put a stop to it all.
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But isn't reincarnation the same as saying; God will dream forever? From watching my own direct experience for 10 minutes I can see that all is impermanent and forms are ever changing. From this observation, plus the observation that consciousness is invincible and eternal (which i have observed) reincarnation would be the conclusion.
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1. But you said in the "what is reality" video that everybody deep down knows that everything is imaginary. 2. But when God is inside a nightmare and projecting suffering on that nightmare, isn't the projection absolute? If God projects something, there is nothing outside of it to say it is not absolute. If God dreams itself as a schizophrenic patient and imagines all kinds of nightmares, at that moment the nightmares and suffering are absolute. God is projecting it, but if he's the only reality, how can you relativize that and say it is mere projection, as if there is "stuff behond the scenes"? The dream is absolute, correct?
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Interesting. Do you hold the position that biology is ultimately imagined though, and that it theoretically could be changed with the mind? (And i mean theoretically quite literally; i am not asking whether it is actually feasable for humans to do this, its quite clear that its not) I love your no-bullshit approach, just wondering how it fits in to idealism and non dualism and the like.
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@Leo Gura btw, do you think I am doing proper contemplation here like you assigned us in the latest perspectives video, or am I not? Are my questions high or low quality?
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You don't think that every human, including Christians, are secretly subconsciously aware of the truth of oneness, and therefore always repressing and scared of it? For me, it was extremely challenging to grok it and took me years to accept. I even considered religion simply for this fact, that it denies oneness and offers a way out of the horrors of reality. It almost cost me my mind. But maybe I am unique in that. And with ultimate liberation I mean God liberating himself ultimately, outside of the confines of illusions of human life or any creature life. I dont mean some buddhist fantasy. Essentially I mean Mahasamadhi, something you even said you were close to, I believe in the 30 day 5-meo video. You said Mahasamadhi was the end of reality forever. "There is no devil. There is only Good. But everyone is too selfish to care." Beautifully said. I guess what I meant is that if reality dreams forever, there is a perfect balance between nightmares and dreams, both going on infinitely.
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What do you mean specifically with "the real thing"?
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@Leo Gura Ironically your view of reality is pretty Zoroastrian, since you are practically saying that God will never defeat the devil, but that they are equal forces.
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Interesting. I am not looking for a feel good solution. Just the truth. If it is unavoidable to face the total set of potential things, including all horrors, I accept that. I just want to know the truth so I can face reality with the least amount of delusion possible. But if there would be a path to ultimate liberation, then of course I would want to work towards that. Whatever the pinaccle of reality is is what I am after. It scares me though, to think there is no way out, no matter what you do, I admit that. About the Christians, I just think in the lower perspectives video you put way more emphasis on the stupidity of humans keeping them locked in lower perspectives, instead of highlighting that it is the denial of horrors that keeps them deluded. I guess that is why Christians go to be Atheists and vice versa, both whom have a delusion to keep themselves from the horrors; one heaven, and the other the oblivion of death, which are both delusions.
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They hold dogma and delusion, but realizing truth is accepting the horrors, which is why they continue to hold on. Disappointing how you are dancing around the deep point of accepting oneness and how radical it is, plus its implications for society, and that the only reason you are able to reach high perspectives is because low perspectives are keeping society from collapsing totally. So according to you, realizing God is the liberation from the horrors of reality, similar to Hindu Moksha? I don't really care about the practical happiness tips, moreso about practical happiness for keeping myself away from realities' horrors after the death of the body. There is only so much you can suffer here on earth. What happens after is what worries me much more. Thanks for your answering.
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If you recognize the seriousness of reality and immortal consciousness, why don't you respond to my criticism of the fact that you deem the denial of oneness to be mere stupidity, or at least state it like this? "My point is precisely this radical implication of oneness. You state here that oneness is some simple truth that is easy to recognize, when you have stated the opposite in other comments and in your video titled "radical implications of oneness". How are you expecting people to grok this extremely radical truth of oneness? Christians veil the truth just like atheists do, not only because of stupidity, but in my view moreso because oneness is so fucking radical making its so emotionally hard to grok, that intellectuelly holding the position becomes extremely hard to do. It means embracing everything you hate. You know this so I don't see why you ascribe the denial of oneness to pure stupidity. To accept oneness you basically have to accept going to the depths of hell. I have had mushroom trips of occult consciousness where oneness became revealed and I has visions of baphomet, the diety of "as above, so below". It felt like pure insanity yet more true than anything else. I had thoughts of killing myself to release myself from limitations since nothing matters anyway and there is no morality since all is one. So if the denial of oneness is stupidity, and its acceptance insanity, it becomes a dichotomy between stupidity and insanity. Do you really expect Christians to accept this? The denial of oneness goes extremely deep, it is basically what keeps you alive on this planet. So that is my criticism of your video, you gloss over that acceptance like its some easy thing to do when in fact its the hardest, and its not just stupidity, but pure survival keeping humans in denial. The denial of oneness is what keeps society from collapsing and everybody dying. So you have to admit that the world runs on the bedrock of lower perspectives like Christianity (even the morality of most atheists is basically a remnant of Christian morality) , and the only reason that you are even able to access higher perspectives, is because you live in a non-collapsed society. So your higher perspectives are actually supported by the existence of lower perspectives. If everybody became enlightened in an instant, society would collapse in an instant and there would be more death, killing and despair than ever before. Which is why it's tautological for that to happen" _______________________________________ The reasons Christians hold to their perspective is precisely because they recognize the horrors that reality holds for them. If reality is full of horrors and death is not the end, what should be our position to that according to you? Are we bound to experience the totality? Is there any use in bettering our karma to experience less horrors, in this life and the next? Give your position to us straight. With all due respect I think you owe it to your audience.
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I am saying i think it was in cahoots with the eu gov to make a shitshow out of it and scare the public. Telegram has always been working with the feds. I work in infosec. The facts just dont add up. But who knows.
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Elon is so autistic he thinks he can have other people boost his diablo account to insane heights and then play the game without preparation and still have it look like he is the real player of the account. The fucking arrogance. Dragging items from his inventory with his mouse like my mother would do.
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@Leo Gura Telegram has been working with feds from the beginning. Do you really believe a russian tech billionaire with his brain would travel to europe for no reason when he knows he would be arrested? It smells of theatrics.
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gengar replied to Spiral Wizard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Easier said than done -
gengar replied to Spiral Wizard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Judging not also means not judging a rapist when he rapes your mother. Are you really up for that? That was my point. -
gengar replied to Spiral Wizard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
My point is precisely this radical implication of oneness. You state here that oneness is some simple truth that is easy to recognize, when you have stated the opposite in other comments and in your video titled "radical implications of oneness". How are you expecting people to grok this extremely radical truth of oneness? Christians veil the truth just like atheists do, not only because of stupidity, but in my view moreso because oneness is so fucking radical making its so emotionally hard to grok, that intellectuelly holding the position becomes extremely hard to do. It means embracing everything you hate. You know this so I don't see why you ascribe the denial of oneness to pure stupidity. To accept oneness you basically have to accept going to the depths of hell. I have had mushroom trips of occult consciousness where oneness became revealed and I has visions of baphomet, the diety of "as above, so below". It felt like pure insanity yet more true than anything else. I had thoughts of killing myself to release myself from limitations since nothing matters anyway and there is no morality since all is one. So if the denial of oneness is stupidity, and its acceptance insanity, it becomes a dichotomy between stupidity and insanity. Do you really expect Christians to accept this? The denial of oneness goes extremely deep, it is basically what keeps you alive on this planet. So that is my criticism of your video, you gloss over that acceptance like its some easy thing to do when in fact its the hardest, and its not just stupidity, but pure survival keeping humans in denial. The denial of oneness is what keeps society from collapsing and everybody dying. So you have to admit that the world runs on the bedrock of lower perspectives like Christianity (even the morality of most atheists is basically a remnant of Christian morality) , and the only reason that you are even able to access higher perspectives, is because you live in a non-collapsed society. So your higher perspectives are actually supported by the existence of lower perspectives. If everybody became enlightened in an instant, society would collapse in an instant and there would be more death, killing and despair than ever before. Which is why it's tautological for that to happen. -
gengar replied to Spiral Wizard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Question on that video: you mentioned as an argument for why demonization of others is always a lower perspective, that there simply are no demons so demonization is always false. This seems to me as an ungrounded argument, you dont actually argue why it is true that there are no demons. This is a much deeper point than you make out to be. If reality is like you describe it (and i would agree, that all is mind), there are definately demons and evil, and the mind contains a pandoras box of evil. Evil and suffering is a great reality, and many christians would argue that the existence of evil is what causes them to believe in their religion and thus demonize "evil". You can say its only relative, but if all there is is experience, an experience of evil is truly evil, since there is nothing outside of it. Your point that all evil is actually good, including all forms of suffering and horror, you make that point like its a simple truth, but most people would not accept that point, that there is no difference in moral quality between a knife in the gut and a hug from your mom. It's even less so in an "all is mind" paradigm than a materialistic paradigm, because a person like Neil Degrasse Tyson, could argue that both the stab wound and the hug are both simply materialistic states that have no inherent moral difference, but if all is experience, their difference would actually become real, simce their opposing qualities (horrible pain vs good feeling) are actual things in experience and experience is the ultimate reality. You can never convince a Christian that evil is not real because of this radical implication. And if God is real and good and evil are also real, demonizing evil actually becomes a good position to take. -
gengar replied to Spiral Wizard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It is imagination because all is mind. Mechanical and chemical things are just too hardcore to change with our limited imagination. With nervous system stuff less so. Its not about literal pharaohs, i use that term to denote super human states that are able to handle horrors and emotions a lot more than humans and simply are a lot more conscious, and are extremely intelligent. I doubt your far fetched claims that magic healing is so easy to do. If it was it would be well known by now. And if you can really do it i invite you to help me because i have a lot of issues. -
gengar replied to Spiral Wizard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If your body is up for it, ascend to occult levels of consciousness and you'll be able to grok and maneuver in it. Not that I would be able, my body can't contain it. If you can however, you can alter your consciousness to be pharaoh-like and grok the corruption and darkness of the world. It requires ego death and deep acceptance of suffering though. Only pharaohs can realize the truth of the world and still live. Puny humans cant. Do mushroom trips and enter occult versions of yourself in your inner being. Imprint those states into memory and use kriya/kundalini yoga to move into them as much as possible when sober until your baseline changes. Still ofc much depends on your body. I'd say the nervous system is pretty maleable to your mind, since mind can control energy, but of course mechanical and chemical parts are not. Mechanical and chemical issues with the body are almost always unfixable with mental stuff. There might have been alchemists in the world who have healed some stuff but i even doubt that. Mechanical and chemical parts are simply too strong and real to be altered with imagination. -
Why do you think these days they struggle more than before? My jaw is permanently locked making it impossible to kiss and hold conversations. Is it over for me? Do women have an internal drive to not be with me? You talked about genes making you incel. What do you mean by this?