Mellowmarsh

Divine Perfection vs. Human Flaws: The rose, with its beauty and fragrance, symbolizes the perfection, love, and glory of God. The thorn represents human nature, which, since the curse of sin, is associated with pain, suffering, sin, and a "rebellious nature". The Coexistence of Good and Evil: The phrase can also imply that God is present in both pleasant "roses" and painful "thorns" in life, teaching that one must perceive God's presence in all circumstances, not just the good ones. Humility Through Adversity: Drawing from the biblical passage of the Apostle Paul's "thorn in the flesh" (2 Corinthians 12:7-10), the "thorn" is seen as a tool used by God to keep a person humble and reliant on divine grace, not their own strength. Jesus as the "Rose of Sharon": In some interpretations, Jesus is referred to as the "Rose of Sharon," who stood out "among the thorns" (human sinners) and ultimately wore a crown of thorns during his crucifixion to atone for human transgressions. The saying emphasizes that while human life involves unavoidable struggles (thorns), God's grace and redemptive power (the rose's beauty) can be found within or, in spite of, those difficulties.

Being dead.

'The mind had to be first about the body, or it could not have been' Antonio Damasio

I think where I am not, therefore I am where I do not think. Is what thinks in my place, then, another I ?

Good point. “The self is a repeatedly reconstructed biological state” "The mind is implanted in the brain, and the brain is implanted in the body".

Infinity, beginnings, ends, life, death are all parts of the same reality, are just made-up useful concepts, and don't exist in isolation. I read a comment on this forum the other day by Leo Gura. It said “ Infinity is Death” but I can’t remember whereabouts I’d seen it written, I mean which thread it was on. Anyways, I thought about it a lot because it resonates deeply as just another concept that cannot know anything about anything because concepts have no awareness of their existence. What are your thoughts about this?

Amazing. Thanks James. ❤️

I understand 💯

Just God then?

Maybe cuz you are the knowing that cannot be known. Infinity as it is known is simply the eternal now of not knowing presence. Who would deny or negate this?

Infinity is death. But not dead.

Yes. 👏

Physical death is the end of an illusory knowledge that I have been born so will die. The end of thought. Not the end of infinity.

You’re IT No sense sensed.

Physical death is only painful for others not you.

You Are death. But you are NOT dead. If you were dead, you would not be death.

You are the grim reaper himself. No one dies except you.

Epicurus: "If I am, death is not. If death is, I am not. Why fear that which cannot exist when I do?".

You Are death. But you are NOT dead.

I think you are onto something. I think you may have a good story, possibly a best seller. What did you title your book. Let me imagine, what about (How not to look through the wrong end of the telescope) ?

Tripping again I see. Mind your step.

What if God was one of us. Just a slob like one of us. No ivory towers please. Get off your soapbox.

There’s just emptiness looking at emptiness ( awareness )