Mellowmarsh

Empty seeing 💡? is there anything that seeing sees, is seen?

It’s the realisation that I have never taken birth in the first place, and that I am immortal.

@Sugarcoat I couldn’t agree more, or said it better. Thanks for sharing here, your views on the matter. 👍

Not on this thread, thanks for your cooperation.

The only death you’ll know is the death of the illusion of separation.

You cannot know anything about another person’s awakening or what steps they’ve taken to achieve it, metaphorically speaking. Each awakening is personal. IMO. It’s not for one to judge another, we all experience our awakenings differently according to the god of our own understanding. And just because some awakenings are different, doesn’t mean it’s not authentic, difference is not an excuse to be dismissive or negatively judgemental. I feel like I’m judging and preaching now, you see, that’s what happens in forums. Apology accepted, I’m really not here to argue with anyone, so let’s just drop it now. Glad to hear you resonated with the OP. 👍 And I also think there are many awakenings just like Leo talked about. So we are where we are, and that’s all that matters really.

Okay got it, thanks for the heads up. 👍

I don’t care about what you think I only care about what I think. You’re only preaching what I already know, I’m not trying to be cute here. Jesus Christ if that’s such a dirty offensive word to use on this forum, then I’ll willingly and gladly never mention that word ever again. That’s how much Leo’s teachings mean to me ffs. That word will never pass my lips again. This forum is way too important than some offensive word.

“There is no one in this world who is not looking for God.” ~ Hafiz “The Infinite has no preferences, It kisses both the darkness and the light equally.” ~ Wu Hsin

I personally think the problem is calling consciousness Christ consciousness. People often associate the word Christ with Jesus… this problem is resolved easily though by transcending the finite physical body and all the dogma that’s attached to the material world, and just deal directly with the infinite only.

You’re simply projecting. I’m not interested in your story, it’s simply not mine. You assume I am spreading religion dogma, how pathetic of you to think that. I’m not the slightest bit interested in religion dogma. I I’m interested in the teachings of Leo Gura which I highly resonate with on a very deep level, is that a problem now?

Okay. A soul needs a body though in order to experience, right? Or, is that missing the mark?

Good, now extend that pondered thought into the idea of separate bodies called people and does it correlate with why these seemingly separate bodies cannot feel each other’s pain? we can know others feel pain because you yourself can feel pain, but knowing that doesn’t mean we can feel another person’s pain. It’s just mind boggling how the separation factor works even if it is only illusory.

I understand what you are saying. 👍 Maybe the problem of separation lies in the label, the name you’re parents gave to you as a baby, that was the birth of identification? But then how would humans have functioned in the world without an identity? Maybe that’s all just the dream, and the dream cannot and never could be nondual, it was always going to be dual, right? But then dreams are not real either, so all we are left with is the dual but non dual. Or, two but not two. We cannot know nonduality because we are nonduality. The knowing that cannot be known so to speak.

I’ve no idea what you’re saying, it’s like some story you’ve invented. It’s not my story. I’ve simply moved beyond the lies of fictional story telling. I reside only in the clarity of truth. I live for truth only. You’re response is heard as blah blah blah to me, sorry not.

@gettoefl 👍

Only if you identify with the story, but that’s not what was implied. Only the truth was implied, I simply resonated with it. Even the Muslims have a mutual infinity with the Christian symbolic character that is Jesus. Hell is just symbolic of the devil which is also God. The lie that is the devil has nowhere to hide in the light of truth. So it’s all good. It’s all God anyway. No problem.

Nothing was said about religion or burning in hell. All I read was an awakening to the truth was realised which is good news isn’t? The truth was realised, isn’t that what self-realisation is all about?

It maybe more about being lost in translation that’s all. Jesus is God. Or, Infinity. Leo states- You are God. Now, did Leo the last avatar state that, or did God state that, or did Infinite Consciousness state that?

Why is it a huge face palm? In your opinion, please explain.

@Someone here you may have meant her, but you quoted me. I was just replying to your response to her that you also chose to tell me.

@Someone here I wouldn’t know. I’m not a Christian nor all the others you mentioned. I’m only me.

Absolutely beautiful. 😍 Thank you for dropping that one here.

“Knowledge of”as in knowing concepts. That statement implies “separation” is known. The illusion is known by the illusion itself. In other words nothing knows itself as a concept which can know nothing. That’s loopy right? Separation is a mysterious phenomenon. For example: think of your body- it manifests into being as one whole being. And yet it has many parts to it. Insofar as the hand is not the leg but both are inseparably one body. A prime example of separation within the whole can be known something like when a toothache pain is felt in the mouth only and not in the hand. So why doesn’t the hand feel the pain that the mouth is feeling ? Maybe that’s what is occurring on a universal scale where everything is one totality, and yet at the same time the whole is separated into many different body parts, known as ten thousand things, or something like that? Btw, your OP topic is a very interesting idea, it’s something I have pondered myself many times.

Imagine that!