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I appreciate the input of women but you guys will never be able to direct experience men’s experience. Before I created this topic I thoroughly tested my thesis. I approached girls seeing her as the prize and it always ended up in her being repulsed. Then I flipped the script and saw myself as the prize and many times she was drawn to me although initially she was holding back + she fell in love For me this is the only way to get 8’s, 9’s. There is no way for me to get quality girls with chasing them. I recommend men testing this for themselves and not listen to women in this thread because there is no way for them to get direct exp or test this out. So it is all mental gymnastics…

You are a very developed woman but very few women are like you. Attraction usually happens a within a few seconds. Afterwards it could happen too but that is not the point. I’m talking about how women look at men who don’t feed their criteria and how they look and treat them. I don’t want to spell it out because it is very ugly but you can observe it for yourself when a woman encounters a perceived low tier men who tries to get with her.

An important insight I had about a women’s gaze. Men who don’t fit her criteria are not seen as men but as something else which I don’t want to spell out. This is a very ugly side of women. It is in their biology to look a certain way to her - perceived - low tier men.

LOL nowadays these beautiful women can’t find a partner … because they all want that top notch men who use them for sex and dump them they dont want to settle “with less” aka beta males. Mind you that female value aka beauty is fading. They only have 16-24 gap to catch a good fish (!!)aka husband. After that it is going to be difficult So who is the prize ? If they are the prize why do they put up on make up? All that women do is focus on relationship to land a good man. And good man are focused on the prize. The sequence is this Women are focused on the prize which are men men are focused on the prize which is not women, but themselves aka their own lives thus men who focus on themSelves and build their lives are the prize!!!!! That is the definition of a king, somebody who focuses on his self/kingdom, doesn’t serve a women to get favors. This is the only way to date high standing women and make it work.

That is true. If you want to date a non desperate girl who undoubtedly has good genetics, social standing and good character, you need to be the prize. Because there are so many men who want to get in her pants and sacrifice everything to be with her. Yes she knows she is the prize but to be able to get her as the man you need to flip the script and sub communicate to her that she is not the prize but you are the prize. This is key: some things you never tell a women, like telling her you are the prize. You never tell her explicitly but implicitly. You need to demonstrate it and sub communicate it. Very feminine women don’t have trouble with this. Because it is on their nature to lean on a strong tree. Only masculine females have trouble with this and that is ok too. These women know they are not the top notch of females so they develop other strategies to cope but usually they end up with partners with whom they are dissatisfied and they just put up with.

Humans are like apes. There is the pride of the group. And all female apes are drawn to him. That is how we are biologically programmed. Like Owen Cook says: humans have created the monogamy culture so weak beta men can procreate but that culture is slowly eroding and we are slowly returning to our biological reality. Man is made in the image of god, not women. And he has to take his place in the universe. Letting women take the lead in a relationship almost always leads to disaster because very few women have an integrated animus. A women in lead is out of her feminine and deeply unhappy and desperate to keep the relationship going because of her kids or no better option.

As I predicted it and said many times https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz9y4exj822o.amp

Self can’t be measured like measuring your dick but how I probe it is through the amount of defensiveness. For example if you something and that person becomes defensive you will know you are dealing with that person’s identification/self-ishness.

I can see use cases for this. Just using a little bit to have an edge in muscle development doesn't seem that harmful. It is not something I would do. I have already enough muscle but some guys can't develop muscles to save their lives.

I don’t think a paradigm shift in science from secular to non secular would cause a major catalyst since science pertains to the material world.

I already asked ChatGPT

Huh So I get men’s deal about fascination of beauty. What is women’s deal? You are kind of contradicting yourself.

Women can be captivated about mystery too. If they figure a guy out it is usually over unless she really loves him. All those romantic novels and shit. Guys ain’t reading that. We aren’t usually fascinated about her work or hobby’s lmao. I’m also not the typical guy I guess. Last week I met a girl through a hobby and I’m more fascinated about her beauty and what it says about me.

@Princess Arabia I was talking about the male POV so we are on the same page.

It is in your nature.

His game is optimized for Las Vegas. That city is a bubble of its own. I know a guy who came from there to Europe where I live and he told me he was getting laid in the US all the time but he couldn’t get laid in Europe once. That guy had the best game I have ever seen but he was tooting the wrong horn. I have seen the girls responses to him. And he poor guy stayed 6 months here. US has a very casual hook up culture which other places don’t have in the same way.

My main point was to drop the mental gymnastics what women want. I’ve studied men in the night club and what makes them successful and this was my conclusion: dropping mental gymnastics and just being a man (which means leading, playing, etc). What every girl wants is a different so in that sense it is a mystery, something to find out and be fascinated about through direct exp and not through mental gymnastics from a safe distance. A lot of guys see girls as an enigma they can’t solve. With that attitude she is not going to work with you.

What guys don’t get is you don’t need to do anything to deserve sex and affection. Attraction is pre verbal and just being a man is enough. But the thing is you need to build this masculine presence and need to be somewhat fit and stylish. All that mental gymnastics about what women want doesn’t work; these limiting beliefs are why you don’t get any. What women want is a mystery and you should be in peace with that. The book of not knowing taught me how to get out of my head and just ~ be. It is so simple and so difficult. Just being is the ultimate pussy magnet. And I know it sounds insane and it really works.

Night game is not for reproduction. At night girls just want to have fun and they select guys on swagger, charisma and funniness. They don’t select on whether or not he can be a provider.

Frame control is important with everything. In the professional and personal spheres. I believe depression and stuff is just not being able to hold frame and letting life rag doll you. Incels are usually depressed too which is not a coincidence.

There is nothing left to return to 🫢

Hmm. You can see through my eyes right now? What am I doing?

Extreme left is like extreme right. They are pig headed. It is like talking to those people who try to sell their religion on the street.

It won’t be worse than WW2