psychedelaholic

Want to add a bit to this discussion. I don't think Bryan Johnson is someone anyone should be looking up to. Him deciding to publicize his forays into psychedelics seems very preformative to me. I've known about him for 3-4 years, and I wasn't any more impressed with him back then. Guy lives the most contrived, unnatural lifestyle in the pursuit of bolstering his ego. I haven't followed him at all since I learned about him, if he's still eating a vegan diet loaded with supplements for longevity, that's what I initially disagreed with the most about. I've been aware of his 5-MeO escapades in the past week, and to me it just looks like he's added psychedelics to his grift. Even if he is having genuine experiences, the way he's going about sharing them lacks authenticity. Woo guys, let's have some needlessly elaborate setup, a bunch of people that don't need to be there, and I want someone to stand there filming me while I trip so I can make pretentious mini documentaries. To me, psychedelic experiences are extremely intimate, best taken alone or shared with people you are close with. Of course recreational use is just as valid, however I find the former is the most effective if you want to gain tangible spiritual benefit. Trying to attach all this extra meaning, like you're doing some kind of higher scientific investigation of these experiences. Just shut up and take it, and sit quietly. It would be more authentic if he filmed it with a camera himself, laid down on the floor, then spoke to his audience 1:1 about the experience. Instead he makes it into a huge production. It's cool that he's making more people aware of psychedelics, I guess that's positive. However, I think he's far too enveloped in whatever scientific revolutionary lifestyle he thinks he's living. If you need to tattoo the chemical structure for 5-MeO-DMT on your wrist because you identify with it, I think you may have lost the plot, it seems like it's his only tattoo, lol. Maybe I'm just a hater.

I'm crying, lol.

A friend asked me if I had ever done DMT a little while ago, so I went back and read a trip report I wrote after my strongest breakthrough experience. Thought it potentially worth sharing here. If you've also broken through and have an experience to share, I would love to read it : ) This is still such a profound experience in my memory. It was totally absent of the typical chaos that is DMT geometry, it was serene. The entire space was devoid of any light other than the golden beams that crystallized around me. Standing on a mirrored sky of black, illuminated only by radiant white, gold, divine light.

I took 31mg~ This is more in line with what I'd want. On 22mg it felt like I had to more or less deliberately let go, on this dose it feels like I am forced to. The body load definitely requires deep breathing to move through, and each breath in and out, it feels like the exhale is a river that flows endlessly to infinity. There's just nothing, there's nothing to hold onto at all. I want to speak, I can't form a sentence, I want to hold onto 'I' and it doesn't exist. It's beautiful. It's hard to discern where the peak begins and ends until it actually does. This is a fantastic drug, I have much more work to do. I need to take 5-Meo with the intention of contemplation from the space it provides. The amount of dissolution of thought this shit flings awareness into is insane. Wowweeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Alright, sorry for the delay. I wanted to dose last weekend but I ended up having a low grade headache that lingered most of the weekend, so I didn't feel like it was the best idea to trip without feeling 100%. Going to take the 30mg in a few hours here and report back.

Not an 'if' it was directly experienced. I plan to take 30mg this Friday or Saturday, so I'll update this thread with the experience afterwards.

I don't know how much I can elaborate as the experience itself is is devoid of thought. When the self dissolves, any identification to physicality, belief, memories ceases to hold any meaning. So if I entirely let go, even the reflection of my body in the window doesn't feel identifiable. I am aware that what I'm seeing is supposed to be 'my' body but my awareness is staring straight through it as though it's not anything at all. The next time I do 5-MeO-DMT I'll take a higher 25-30mg dose, if that awareness could be all consuming, it would be insane.

Local man learns to fly on 5-MeO-DMT 🕶️ I dosed 22mg to start, I would say I'm past the peak as of now. I can see why some people could have difficulty with this substance. My reaction to it essentially confirms to me that my sense of self is by default extremely detached. I transition into the experience seamlessly, there's no resistance, in fact the state of mind 5-MeO-DMT produces is peaceful, tranquil. I spent the trip starting into my reflection in the window, and during the peak, the self dissolves such that I do not recognize my form in the reflection. If I had more of a root in my ego-mind, and I were to be resistant to this, it would certainly be terrifying. My physical reaction is to smile wider the more my consciousness expands. I don't have much more to say than that as to my initial impressions. I am huge fan of the lack of visuals, to achieve such a clean state of mind without any visual or cognitive noise is something special. Every time I've felt like I've finally broken out of the dome on other psychedelics, it's far more enthralling and chaotic than what I've just experienced. I will be using 5-MeO-DMT again soon, I'm interested to see how much deeper I can go with it.

My strongest Aleph-1 trip I was in it so god damn thick, going down a set of concrete steps, I couldn't see where each step started and ended. That trip was ridiculous, I was with my younger brother for most of the trip, and when we finally made it home I was still peaking, unbeknownst to me, he went inside to sleep. I walked into the back yard, hallucinated him sitting on top of a spruce tree at least 100ft high, smoking a pipe, saying "doesn't that pond look like it would be nice to jump in?" "all you gotta do is jump in the pond..." the pond in question is this re-flow basin for a stream/waterfall piece, not neck deep, but above the waist. Not the kind of water you'd want to take a swim in. I don't really know what I was thinking would happen, but I jumped in the pond from the deck. As soon as I hit the cold water I sobered up 50% immediately, had to haul myself out soaking wet. One of the few times where I was so warped that my thoughts superimposed onto what was in front of me. I almost don't believe my own memory of him sitting on top of that tree, blowing clouds of smoke like a gnome, daunting me to jump into the pond. Obviously I imagined it, but the level of delusion required to suspend all disbelief, perceive that and say "yeah I gotta listen to the man up there on the tree", lol. Other than DMT, Aleph-1 had the most impressive fractals out of all the psychs I've done. Such an obscure chemical, only 3 reports on erowid.

I would like to think that I know what I'm singing up for, that may be naïve of me to say. I have a pretty good idea of my limits, my mind is resilient in that I'm able to tolerate extreme states of consciousness without dropping my spaghetti. I've tripped between 80-100 times, some of those have been harrowing experiences, so if shit hits the fan I've learned to let it fly. I definitely want an intense experience, and I'm comfortable with being uncomfortable, that edge is where I get the most out of psychedelics. I was thinking I might split the difference a little and take 18mg, but at that point + or - 2mg is not going to be night and day. Due to my hyperphantasia, in high doses of more visual psychedelics, I'll black out into obe/visions in minds eye, losing touch with my immediate surroundings, which can be disorienting. If my lucidity in that respect is guaranteed on 5-MeO-DMT, I'm confident in starting a bit higher.

These are all things I desire more and more out of a psychedelic as I'm getting a bit older. It's novel to be pulled in all directions at the whim of the experience. Spend enough trips like that and impossible clarity starts to sound like an all inclusive retreat. I intend to dose around 20mg HCL.

Interesting, it surprises me that you say it's similar. I did 5-MeO-MiPT quite a number of times, although I only dosed it orally, never smoked it. It was too long ago to recall the exact doses I was taking, but I remember it having a considerable body load, enhanced sensory/tactility, sort of as if it's a tryptamine putting on an impression of MDMA. Visually it had quite a lot of character; warm colours, fairly mild breathing, warping and drifting with round/angular uniformity that doesn't feel overly synthetic. The visual field itself was quite bright, not bright in the way intense geometry appears as though you could be swallowed by it. More like there is a very bright internal light illuminating the whole of consciousness. I don't know if that makes sense. That's how I'm more or less picturing 5-MeO-DMT to be, in that the consciousness itself is what is increasing in intensity, secondary to the visual component. I have an overactive occipital lobe/hyperphantasia so the intensity at which I experience visuals is far greater than what is typical. I am now more curious, I'm waiting on oral syringes to be delivered as I'm not a fan of snorting anything these days. 5-MeO-DMT seems like a uniquely versatile substance, having little to no tolerance as with NN-DMT. I feel like the lack of a lengthy tolerance between uses is more applicable because DMT is so visually overwhelming, I don't think I've ever finished a DMT trip and said "I want to go again". If I tolerate 5-MeO-DMT well, I am interested in re-dosing it to spend more than an hour in the experience.

I'll be dosing 5-MeO-DMT for the first time tomorrow. I've experienced practically every other notable psychedelic, even more obscure rare chemicals, 5-MeO is the odd one out. I was sitting in my apartment a couple days ago and a switch just flipped, I thought why not and I ordered it immediately, got delivered yesterday. I've known about 5-MeO since 2017, just never got around to doing it for one reason or another. These things tend to work themselves out though, when it's time it's time. Over the last 2-3 months my baseline level of consciousness has been steadily increasing with the work I've been doing. I've had many, many trips on LSD, 4-AcO-DMT/Psilocybin, NN-DMT, 5-MeO-MiPT, MET, 4-HO-MET, AL-LAD, Aleph-1... to make an exhaustive list. Though my DOC has always been LSD, I'll always love LSD but I feel I've all but drawn out what value it has for my spiritual development. I can function on 200μg~ as though it's a glass of wine at dinner, lol. Not that I drink alcohol. If I were to take LSD now, I'd enjoy the experience but it wouldn't be mind melting or earth shattering. Sometimes that's what I'd prefer, no need to push the pedal to the floor every single time. Lately though I feel like I truly want to see exactly how much of the self I have left to lose. I would say in the context of my day to day awareness, I'm consistently identified with the experience of being, and I engage with the ego from there, rarely becoming entangled in it. I can visualize the unity of consciousness, reality, and God with clarity, nothing external, all is interdependent. I've been imagining what 5-MeO might be like based on all of my experiences and what I've heard about it, so I suppose I'll find out over the next while how enlightened I actually am. The thought of the self being entirely dissolved for 20-60 minutes, without having to contend with strong visuals while remaining lucid is the most attractive aspect of 5-MeO to me. This in theory would make it one of if not the highest value psychedelic experiences, with the lowest investment required to gain benefit from it. I guess what one gets out 5-MeO depends on their willingness to let go and succumb to it. I don't imagine having issues with this, which is why it has me excited. I can remember the days following my first time smoking DMT, it blew my conception of reality so far outside of what I imagined possible, that it would never be the same again. If an otherworldly state of consciousness of that magnitude is available to be experienced, it makes it impossible to conceive of consciousness as anything other than infinite. I'm hoping to have experiences on 5-MeO-DMT that go beyond anything I've experienced thus far. I'll post my impressions of the trip in this thread tomorrow, o7.

@Bjorn K Holmstrom This is where it gets muddy, because to incite political change in a community, we would either need to become involved in politics personally, or have high consciousness people whom are in politics willing to campaign on entirely new integrative solutions to societal issues. The other issue is that largely, getting a substantial amount of people behind a political movement that advocates for highly nuanced solutions is going to be difficult for many people to latch onto and support. It's a far cry from populous rhetoric, and seeing the appeal of integrative approaches requires at minimum a certain level of open mindedness, flexibility, being able to tolerate and or entertain many perspectives. These are traits that are flat out rare in most people. However, I think the way you bridge a lack of understanding is by demonstration, and persuasion. Ideally you go out and grassroots organize within a community, and attempt to convey your ideas in ways that aren't complex to understand, that speak effectively to a greater vision and evolution of the current system of governance. Change starts at an individual level, and to make a movement you have to appeal to enough people to the point where your ideas become a force that can exert political pressure through the people that align with your vision for future change. There is a pathway if you can get into local governance > provincial/state governance > all the way to the higher levels of government, depending on the amount of support you have. I live in Canada for the record, slightly different parliamentary system, similar results to the U.S. in practice though. I'd agree that the current way of electing candidates is far too binary and it perpetuates an unsatisfactory cycle that leaves people feeling as though there is no real solid choice. The concept of ranked-choice voting is interesting, and would contribute to reducing the feeling of being pigeon holed into voting for whichever talking head sucks the least. It's a more dynamic way to structure an electoral process, in that you are allowing multiple rounds of voting, higher levels of nuance in allowing preferential voting over a binary "yes/no", and it would ensure that whoever wins the election, does so with a majority vote. There's certainly more complexity in how the vote is counted, and it requires people to be invested enough to vote multiple times, but if we want nuanced elections, do the work I guess. Even with all this said, my feeling with the current political system is that it's likely so rotted from the inside that once someone with high consciousness ideals gets into a position of power, they'd get dragged by the ankle and told to fall in line, because god only knows the true extent of influence foreign/domestic lobbying, the world economic forum, central banks have over western political outcomes. My hope is that as the years progress, old decrepit people holding government positions die off, and key positions of power are slowly handed off to younger and younger generations. With that it's reasonable to think we will see a willingness to restructure these systems, as it's obvious to any of my generation that is capable of critical thought that these systems are not harbingers of prosperity as much as they are heralds of self-interest. @Hardkill Eloquently put. I believe so yeah, I feel like we are currently reaching the excesses of the current values championed by progressivism as a society. There's conflict and backlash, and I think this sort of nuanced integration of opposing values is a higher level of thinking that has potential to bring about a gradual shift towards a more conscious, balanced approach to solving political and societal issues. As to how long it will take people to get to a level of consciousness where these ideas can be successfully platformed, remains to be seen.

This is something I've been contemplating fairly heavily over the last month or two. I think it really depends on how conscious the individual labelling themselves as a centrist is, how nuanced is their thinking? Mainly, to what degree are they applying meta thinking to their politics. Most people who I interact with who would claim to be centrists, or centre-left/right, are not concerned with actual integration, and larger meta narratives. They're labelling themselves as a centrist to denounce extremist beliefs without really doing any mental labour to join the two halves, they're basically a duck sitting on a fence waiting for the wind to blow strong in one direction. I'm 26, I would place myself at late stage yellow, I am also deeply construct aware. To give some thought to your question, I do think that if we talk about centrist politics from a meta perspective, it is a higher perspective from which to view ideas of culture, race and society. The main pervasive issue I see in today's political landscape is how insanely polarized the majority of people are, the level of ideological bias, shit flinging, divisiveness that underpins every single narrative people are willing to run with is astounding. Most people identified with the left or right are far too polarized to have any kind of meaningful discussion about opposing perspectives without making their arguments explicitly derogatory, hateful, unproductive. They simply point the finger at each other, performing exhaustive mental gymnastics in order to make sure the finger is always pointing away from their belief system. This kind of division and radicalization is unlikely to stop any time soon because the average person is not conscious enough to see past their biases. Yes, left or liberal beliefs are a higher developmental perspective, inclusion, equality of opportunity, social reform etc.. relative to right or conservative beliefs of structure, cultural norms, preservation, Christianity etc.. Here's the thing though, we cannot sit and say: "Well because these progressive beliefs are originating from a higher state of awareness, they are without consequence to fully embrace" There are consequences to radical empathy, inclusion, diversity, believing that people from any part of the world are capable of producing high quality results if given equal access to resources. We're currently seeing consequences to mass immigration in Europe, UK, Canada. There are immigrants that are allowed in from low trust societies that when given resources, choose to rape, steal and commit violent crime. Undermine or subvert the culture of the country they're graciously allowed into with the expectation that they will respect and assimilate to the culture. The issue when dealing with divisive topics such as these, is again, people that are identified with a set of values that maybe are bringing about harmful consequences, are often incapable of questioning if there are pitfalls that need to be addressed. Everything the right campaigns is lumped together and labelled as fascist, destructive by the left, every value the left campaigns is lumped together and viewed as suicidal, culturally damaging by the right, when in reality, not so. Do I agree with any of the rhetoric on the right about religion, Christianity, God as the one true saviour of the American people? No, it's ridiculous and it's a regressive knee-jerk back to stage blue values because many of these people view progressive change as an attack on their identity, so they defend it. I don't agree with right to life stances on abortion either, in my perspective people are free to do whatever they want as long as they aren't committing violence against others, an unborn child isn't conscious so it's up to the parent(s) to decide what they do with it. I also do not align with the current trend of trans identity politics being broadcast so freely, a lot of people are either far too young, or mentally ill (or both) to be making these types of decisions for themselves. Altering your hormones, gender-reassignment surgeries, these are drastic life choices with permanent biological consequences. Many of these people are traumatized in childhood, and instead of working on healing their trauma, gaining some genuine insight into themselves, they turn and run from that reflective process to grasp for "immediate" external solutions. In this case altering their perceived sense of self and identity through medical intervention, and yet, you cannot run from your own mind. Regardless, if an adult of sound mind wants to make drastic changes in their life to their mind and body, who am I to deny their right to do so. I'm making assertions around current hot button issues in society to illustrate a point that it's possible to acknowledge that multiple perspectives can be held at once, without completely succumbing to identifying with one side or another. If more people were capable of this, we might be able to have a more collective conversation about integration, ways in which we can take an unbiased view drawing on many perspectives relative to what our current issues are, and find balanced solutions that incorporate and meld values in a way that benefits the majority of people. Something like race, cultural identity etc.. where in certain parts of society today you must be incredibly closed lipped about, lest someone labels you as a racist, or a bigot, have much broader connotations and are far more metaphysically nuanced than what we currently understand from the perspective of progressivism. It's also far, far more nuanced than the way that typical conservatism views these topics, because the progressive view is a higher perspective, that does not mean it should not be scrutinized, and those scrutinizing it are not all regressive conservatives. In a sense, I feel to transcend both is the only way forward if we are going to let go of biases in favour of higher consciousness politics. There is boundless corruption in the minds of many in positions of power, and my generation and those that come after will not be able to justly root it out if we are all too busy being divided, bickering like children over who did and said what, who's fault it is. Maturity would be realizing that there are worthwhile values on the left, and worthwhile values on the right, bipartisan consensus could be the standard method in which policies are formed. Unfortunately, western politics subsists off of domestic/foreign lobbying, and perpetuates dualistic struggles for power between uncompromising beliefs. I hope to see this change in the next 25-50 years.