What Am I

Wow, that does look good. I'll check it out, thanks. I can vouch for these two books being helpful. They filled in some knowledge gaps for me. https://www.amazon.com/Kundalini-Exposed-Disclosing-Kundalini-Awakening/dp/B0B6KRCPJB/ https://www.amazon.com/Kundalini-Tantra-Re-print-Golden-Jubilee/dp/8185787158/ As far as any authentically accomplished individuals who primarily focus on publicly teaching/transmitting kundalini, I'm not aware of any, but I'm sure they exist. What have you been noticing in yourself? We're posting in the psychedelics section, so I'm guessing your experiences were induced by those?

What an incredibly difficult habit/addiction this is. Even more so because it has the backing of being a biological imperative. And worst of all, it's always sitting there attached to you. It'd be like being a crack addict with a permanent baggie of crack in your pocket lol. I'm like you where I have had more and less success over the years, and both the benefits of maintaining it and the drawbacks of relapsing are extremely clear. Despite that, it remains a struggle. I guess the lucky ones would be those who were taught about the spiritual reality from birth, and never got caught in a sexual addiction to begin with.

This is a pretty cool idea. I've noticed in myself that I get stagnant and go on a type of autopilot when I'm too caught up in my routines. I agree that breaking it up and putting yourself in more novel situations is conducive to the opportunity for large changes.

It's possible meditation wouldn't be the best word to describe what I'm doing and how the 5-MeO-DMT helps me. I'm not performing a single-pointed concentration practice. It's more like an active witness state of presence and being where I'm releasing resistance into the moment and continuously feeling the activation of the subtle energetic body. That's a mouthful, but it's all done as a singular action, like how riding a bike is a non-conceptual kinesthetic skill that becomes mentally effortless despite all the coordination involved. It leads to some wild experiences far above what a lower dose would produce on its own. Also to be clear, I use high doses as well. And as many of you know, that shit is crazy lol.

It is possible in my experience, using 5-MeO-DMT in particular. A smaller dose can give you a significant boost in consciousness, and then you can use an effective meditation practice to push it further. And it's easier to meditate correctly at that point, because a lot of the hindrances that'd typically hold you back have been removed.

This thread explains it: Francis777 and I went back and forth a bit. Very interesting to discuss with someone who's had an awakening of the higher type. I just wish it wasn't so overloading for him.

@bambi when it comes to repairing damage from abuse of harmful substances, the things that helped me the most were abstinence, a healthy lifestyle, and time most of all. It took like 5 years after stopping stimulant abuse for my fight or flight response to normalize.

Sure, if you're talking about highly energetic events caused by powerful psychedelics, I agree your karma gets burned away as you're purified by its exposure to your nervous system (or maybe chakras or nadis, I don't really know). And it would force the progression of a natural purification process that can ultimately lead to enlightenment, the highest samadhi, or whatever we would call it. I'd argue that's a good side effect of psychedelics such as 5-MeO-DMT, and it's the exact reason that one in particular has been so transformative for me compared to others. I'd also argue that there seems to be negative bodily side effects that occur in parallel. They're not deal-breakers, but they're bad enough to where it holds me back from going apeshit with it. At this point, I feel like I'm able to distinguish between the two types of side effects (good and bad). Thankfully, the good stays with you for many months after some heavy 5meo usage, whereas the brunt of the negative goes away after a few days at most. That's been my experience and interpretation at least. It's possible I'm missing something. I appreciate your continued attention on kundalini. For reasons I don't understand, only a few of us on the forum seem to get firstly that it's a real thing, and secondly what its role in awakening seems to be. It's an area that begs for more attention if the goal is spirituality of any significant type. Even though people can still develop in a similar way while being ignorant of it, it has helped so much in my mental map to understand it intellectually, even if imperfectly. That's an interesting possibility. I can't deny that maybe I'm misinterpreting the negative side effects, and they're actually resistance on my part. It'd take a leap in thinking for me to accept it though. Still worth considering.

It's that truth that gives me comfort in all the mistakes I've made. The concept applies to psychedelic use and much more.

No problem. The understanding would be how they're not a free ticket. I remember being extremely zealous about psychedelics, with the strong opinion they were all upsides with virtually no downsides. So with that attitude, I didn't hold anything back in their use. Many years ago, I'd smoke weed everyday and take mushrooms without any concern for spacing out trips. Any other opportunities that showed up, I'd almost certainly choose to partake. And even within the last 5 years, I'd go really heavy on 5-MeO-DMT vape pens with 3 hour sessions. I think it was those 5meo experiences that really opened my eyes to the notion that even my best spiritual tool could be deleterious. I'd have an epic headache afterward where the pressure was so intense, it almost felt dangerous. If I could go back in time, whenever I'd use psychedelics, the substance would be carefully chosen and it'd be squarely aimed at advancing spirituality, while minimizing the hedonistic desire to just feel good and have fun. So it's ultimately a question of efficiency in their use towards a specific goal. My efficiency was very poor, and I wish it was very good.

Gotcha, thanks for the explanation. Maybe it has something to do with an overload of the energetic system caused by an increased demand via astral projection. Because an overload of that type most certainly does feel shitty. Sure, so this is a tricky one. I'd be hard-pressed to say that I'm aware of any obvious negative long-term mental effects I've experienced from tripping. It's possible my memories could be slower to recall, or maybe I'm less able to take in and grasp new concepts. It's all so subtle, and it's like I'm trying to judge my mind using my mind, so who could really say. One thing I've noticed is that the bar has significantly lowered for how easily a rough comedown and hangover can be produced by psychedelics, meaning my brain and body are less resilient to the negative effects. It makes their drawbacks on health much more apparent, and it really forces me to choose my trips carefully. It's this alone that has me so vehemently in agreement with Leo to watch for signals from your body and respond accordingly. For me, the extrapolated risks have become too obvious to ignore. Just to not shit on psychedelics too much, they have absolutely changed my life and helped shed light on the path I need to follow. I don't regret their use, but I wish I had the same understanding in the past that I have now.

I don't think he means the type of bliss where you're nonfunctional rolling around on the ground though. I don't think it'd be too high of a bar to aim for the three characteristics of ultimate reality (sat chit ananda) to be consistently realized as your true natural state. This is awesome. I wish I had access to people who are so dedicated.

I hear what you're saying, and I ran down this line of logic myself when the thread was first started. The difference would be that you can intuit the soreness from exercise as an overall beneficial thing. Even more so as your intuition and capacity for awareness grows over time. Even though it hurts, it actually feels good in a way that's difficult to describe. And it's not just because you intellectually understand it'll produce muscle growth in the future. The sensation itself doesn't feel unhealthy. In contrast, I have never had the same intuition from the physical effects of a psychedelic hangover. It's something I avoid and minimize at all costs. I acknowledge this isn't scientific and is based 100% on "feels", but I'm confident in my assessment after countless trips over 20 years of psychedelic use. This is interesting and I wouldn't know how to fit it into my model, as I've never astral projected to my knowledge, especially not without chemicals being involved. I guess if you really feel repelled after the experience, it's possible you should avoid it. Maybe you're visiting realms that would correlate to the more negative side of the emotional spectrum, and they're affecting you in some undesirable way.

Weird, it's working for me. Well here's an image that graphically lays it all out.

If it was me, I'd much sooner increase the dose than mix with modafinil. Here's some good info for guidance on drug combinations: https://wiki.tripsit.me/wiki/Drug_combinations

It's tough to capture the vibe of a trip in words. If the essence of this pic could be translated into raw transcendent experience, it'd at least somewhat represent what my positive pharma experiences are like. Though nothing can really get it across except personally having the experience of course.

I bet there's been at least a few. I was chatting with one guy from here who supposedly had the higher type of kundalini awakening similar to Gopi Krishna, where the transcendent effects don't simply stop after just a few days. If our mainstream science had the knowledge and tools to measure it properly, I bet there's some really interesting energetic events going on around that guy. None that you'd want to be in the presence of though probably, as it was very distressing for him.

It seems very likely there's metaphysical connective tissue behind the scenes of reality. A single person achieving a very high level of consciousness is supposed to have a significant impact on all the rest of humanity. If large numbers of people started becoming authentically aware and accomplished, there'd probably be no stopping some kind of revelatory event.

Right, ignorance does take on a life of its own and protects the bigger secrets as if on autopilot. It's very much a Plato's Cave situation.

You're thinking it'd be denied out of ignorance or conspiracy to suppress? I respect the reason for your rule against conspiracy theorizing to exist, so I don't mean for this question to spin too far down that path.

It's so interesting how Eastern energy practices like Chi Gung mirror the purification process that people experience on highly energetic psychedelics like 5-MeO-DMT. I dare say doing it via Chi Gung would be preferable if you have the talent and the gumption.

I think the phrase "God meets you halfway" is a powerful one. It's a compromise between the attitude that everything is already God, so no need to do anything, and the opposite attitude that you must pursue awakening like a person would pursue water with their hair on fire.

Perhaps it'd be like after the first person ran the "impossible" 4-minute mile, and then the flood gates opened and many people achieved it.

I think the ability to recognize risk and understand the ramifications of consequences are something that has to be learned. I guess it's a form of wisdom as opposed to just knowledge. I remember being incredibly reckless when I was younger. And thinking back to my state of mind, part of me clearly understood I was screwing myself over, but my ignorance and lack of awareness simply wouldn't let me make better choices.

@Keryo Koffa impressive analysis. I especially appreciate #3. It's so often overlooked because it's so esoteric and unacknowledged as a reality.