What Am I

That'd be me as well. I respect the video content from what I've seen, but it's the forum that I really love. It offers the opportunity to express a part of myself that I've had to hide for a long time. I've always hinted at the larger reality when possible in conversations with others, but here it's understood to be true as a baseline.

Right, good point. It's easy in these types of circles for worship of the head guy to be expected and unquestionable. This is much more of a back and forth dynamic, which I'm sure is to everyone's benefit.

@Leo Gura lol I'm pretty new here, but it looks like your followers challenge you quite a bit. Must be a little annoying. Or maybe it produces a healthy dialectic.

Interesting question, I would think so, though they may have a hard time translating it to an intellectual understanding. As for what makes it possible, speaking in a relative sense rather than an absolute, I'd say it's the activation and maturity of their energetic system. It's the bridge and the foundation between the coarse matter we're familiar with and higher things made of light, mind, and who knows what else. Though like I mentioned, it's only a relative truth, but there's many relative truths worth knowing.

The sessions would get up to three hours long. They were insane journeys through all the different stages of a 5meo trip. It really helped map what was possible at different levels. You're correct that there's a threshold where the trip will drastically change. From the description of your semi-breakthrough, it sounds like you got to that point. If you finesse your use of the vape, you can kind of keep yourself in that zone where the intensity spikes. From there, it'll be all about finding the courage to go further. What really makes or breaks my trips is my use of spiritual practice before and during the experience (and ideally after). If I just go into it haphazardly, I'll be thrown around chaotically just like anyone else. But if my mind is relatively quiet, sense of self tamed, attention on the present moment, and the sensation of bodily energy at the forefront, my trip will crystalize into what it's supposed to be at that level of consciousness. There's a sort of predefined direction that the spiritual human experience is naturally supposed to head towards. If you can diminish the parts of you that fight against that, everything clicks into place and it's far less scary.

No problem, I'm glad it was helpful. One method that got me at least a little more accustomed to higher doses was vaping 5meo in e-juice in a graduated way over a single session. Meaning I would vape a little, get comfortable with where I was at, and then vape more. I would do this all the way to the point where I was heavily tripping. It's a lot less jarring, and there's a certain amount of courage afforded by knowing you can control how far you go. At least for me though, it would tear up my lungs after long sessions, so I've pretty much stopped doing it this way.

That's interesting though, it sounds like you were pretty resistant to the potential negative effects. Your dose of 5meo and harmalas was massive compared to mine, and it sounds like it only gave you a minor case of serotonin syndrome if anything at all. I've actually read a few reports of people using the combo successfully and without issue, which is part of what prompted me to try it in the first place. I guess what I've learned is that individual factors may determine whether you're prone to a great experience or a deadly one. Unfortunately, the dangers of figuring out how you'll respond are just way too serious to recommend anyone ever try it. My warning (and the original intention of this thread) remains. Here's another relevant excerpt from the FIVE GUIDE I linked above: It is recommended to avoid the combination of MAOIs with 5-MeO-DMT. However, there are many existing reports from online forums (erowid, bluelight, reddit) that document individuals taking these types of combinations without serious injury and sometimes with an endorsement of a profound experience. The discrepancy in information between anecdotal reporting and scientific sources could be explained on a statistical basis for a bad outcome. If the particular drug combination of 5-MeO-DMT and drug X has a risk of death of 1% then you would have to use the combination one hundred times (1/0.01 = 100) to expect a single death to occur.

At least for me, when it happens on a high enough dose of 5meo, I'll start receiving cosmic revelations about what everything actually is. How it's all been a creation of my own making, including the things I've done, the people I know, and anything and everything. It's all-encompassing. And I suppose you could call them thoughts, but they're more like direct understandings in the form of a higher-dimensional knowing, or maybe a type of remembering. I do start getting visuals at this point, which are way different from the typical 5-HT2A psychedelic visuals, and they're basically impossible to recall in any detail in my current state. The visuals somehow have meaning and reinforce the cosmic understanding. This is the point where it's still shocking and disturbing to my lesser self. The pinnacle that I've reached is when I start experientially comprehending that my actual existence is the screen of consciousness that everything is projected on, rather than the projections themselves. This brings a feeling of freedom and positivity that I'm not even sure what to call or how to describe, except to say that it's fully transcendent. Meaning it's not even occurring in my body, but rather consciousness itself. I've reached this point a number of times, but I haven't plowed through it to completely lose my sense of smaller self. It's at this point where the shocking and disturbing aspects begin losing meaning and falling away. My description pales in comparison to what it's actually like. Based on Leo's and others' descriptions, it sounds like they've pushed it a lot further with 5meo. I'd be hesitant to say I've had a full awakening, though my eyes have definitely fluttered so to speak. I'm 100% confident you could do it sober, but you'd have to reproduce something similar to the nirvikalpa samadhi state. Unless you're pretty well trained or very talented, 5meo would be your quickest way there. Still a worthwhile endeavor, especially if you experiment with your spiritual practice during it.

When I push the dose high and start experiencing that I'm the only thing that exists, I have to admit there's a part of me that still doesn't like it. It's very much like shree where I ask myself what I've done. And then later on I find myself doing it again, because really, what choice do I have? For lower, medium, and even medium/high doses, I'm almost completely calm with no panic whatsoever. There's just a certain threshold where shit gets real.

Subcutaneous injection would be a good solution if you're willing to take a leap like that. I don't think individual bioavailability would be a factor for that ROA.

Based on the story in the video, it's like he started off as a non-functioning savant and was able to somehow gain the skills needed for living a normal life. Pretty impressive and probably rare. Anyone else catch when he mentioned his math skills originating at a higher dimension? It reminds me of another functional math savant who explained how answers came to him in the form of light. Someone should give these people training and psychedelics to see what comes out the other end.

It's very hard to argue that reading about samadhi is more valuable than experiencing it.

Oh man, I'd imagine it's because the true answers to questions of that magnitude may be way too profound to properly translate into words on a page. Maybe the brunt of it can only be grasped in the heightened state of awakening itself. Leo points to many of these pretty often, but I think even his lessons end at the notion that you just have to see it for yourself.

Closing your eyes increases the likelihood of going into a physiologically relaxed state. Heart rate and breathing slowing, brainwaves moving to alpha and below, etc. That being said, it's obviously not strictly necessary and I don't meditate that way myself.

Leo's thoughts on the UFO situation are a lot better than this answer, so he gets the point there in my book at least.

Nice, thanks guys. Who could say when we're dealing with such incomprehensible stuff? It's likely there's valuable info from both that could push everyone forward. When it comes to many of the big points, they seem mostly aligned.

Found this. Well he certainly uses the right lingo. And if his subjective experience lines up with the story he's telling, I guess he'd be one of those who's either made the full journey or is pretty far on it at least. Who am I to say for sure.

Anyone know of a good summarizing video to get caught up on the lore for this Frank Yang character? Maybe I'm coming at it with a naive perspective and judging a book by its cover, but he just seems like the average gym bro lol. Has the guy demonstrated his mastery in any way beyond words in youtube videos? I'd only hold him to that standard because these are some lofty claims.

Sure, please feel free to DM me or chat in threads on this site, but I'll want to keep myself anonymous beyond that. That way I'll feel more free to discuss the batshit crazy stuff I believe . I should also mention I'm not a kundalini expert of any kind. My largest advantage is knowing that it and the energetic system exist as a fact, and that it's as fundamental to spiritual awareness as muscles are to bodily movement. And as you're hinting at, it's responsible for the more "impossible" things that humans are capable of.

For sure, I most certainly do prefer SubQ, but it'll be rare that someone wants to use that ROA or is even aware of it being an option. So I was just giving a general recommendation for the wider populace.

I've heard of this phenomenon where someone who's highly spiritually advanced can supposedly take psychedelics and not get any effects, but it seems hard to believe. Are they also not affected by other chemicals, such as anesthetics? Has anyone provided any good evidence for it? I see the logic in saying their trips would be different from the average person, since I'm guessing many on this forum are able to consciously alter a trip using spiritual practice, but I find it quite a stretch to imagine they could neutralize the extreme effects of a psychedelic entirely.

Yes, and 5-MeO-DMT has been the most powerful for me in that regard. It has a way of burning the trauma right out of you if used and accepted properly. On the flip side, I guess it'd be possible for it to actually increase trauma if you were to go about it in the wrong way. It's an extremely hardcore experience indeed. ROA could make a pretty big difference for this purpose. Plugging with moderate doses would be a lot more gentle.

Zen is great for its simple and blunt attitude of "Practice and see for yourself", and Tibetan is great for filling in a bunch of lesser-known details relating to the subtle and subconscious areas of existence. It'd be best to take what's valuable from Buddhism while not giving it excessive weight. Ultimately, your success will come down to you.

True enough, I avoid those types of realms like the plague, but maybe that's to my detriment ultimately.

Oh god, 100% agreement there. Healthy living alone does not preclude hellish trips unfortunately.