What Am I

Is it social blasphemy on my part to wonder if European nations may face more of a threat from fundamentalist Islamism rather than Christianity? It's just a guess on my part. I'm not very educated on what occurs there.

Sure, but they at least believe in a multidimensional reality. Perhaps I misspoke though when I said fundamentalists may be more advanced. Their extreme dogmatism might just outweigh any advantages gained from believing in an expansive existence.

Right, it's almost like a catch-22. Atheists are simultaneously more open to the possibilities while also being extra closed off to the ones that really matter. And as you say, those who are strongly religious vehemently claim you'll burn in hell for entertaining any philosophy other than theirs. I guess setting the example of what's really possible with consciousness is the best we can do for now. Good deal, I figured you probably aren't, considering your username.

This is outrageous, no getting around it. But if we take their actions to be an honest attempt at genuine spiritual experience, at least they have the right idea. They're just heavily misguided.

I realize those such as Ken Wilber make the suggestion that a fundamentalist religious viewpoint is a less evolved stance than an atheistic viewpoint, but I wonder if that's actually true. Sure, they're both missing all the nuance involved with what's actually happening in reality, but the atheist's view is so bleak and off the mark, I'd dare say I favor someone who's religious since they're at least closer to the truth. Especially when we're talking about non-Western religions. Of course, both stances are a plague on humanity that needs to be eventually overcome. @Spiritual Warfare are you an atheist?

If your spiritual training is legit and it's dropping you into altered states which access your subconscious and superconscious, the increased demand on your energetic system will be an expected byproduct. Doing some research on "kundalini syndrome" should provide more details. It's something that can eventually be overcome, but it can take up to a few years. My worst bout was a 6-day period after some 5-MeO-DMT usage. It was absolutely brutal, with full insomnia the entire time, a consistent 140bpm resting heart rate, as well as extreme fear and anxiety. On a spiritual level, it's as if I continued to trip the entire time, being pulled forcefully into a God-level state of realization while a mysterious electrical sensation shot through my body. It's all worth it though, because your system can eventually catch up to the new demands and reveal its higher order of operating. It offers the opportunity for a much more embodied existence with a relieving of the previous small sense of self which created the illusion of separation. The whole process seems to be a natural function of the human body, and a true form of purification.

Great idea, I was so close to suggesting something similar recently. Beyond maintaining a certain level of readability on the forum, these are valuable skills worth learning for life. You'll be judged pretty quickly in the professional world for sloppy writing. And the ability to clearly express yourself through text is just gratifying in itself.

100% agreed on all counts. It's these qualities that puts 5meo in a league of its own, and makes it the only psychedelic I've found that directly accelerates true spiritual transformation. I suppose malt is probably up there as well, but I don't have enough experience with it to say for sure yet.

Yes, definitely. I wrote about my own experience in the post below: You can also find a good description in Adyashanti's book called "The End of your World". Here's a pastebin of the relevant chapter: https://pastebin.com/VGmB5jH5

Interesting, thanks for sharing, I'll check this out. Yogananda is pretty legit from what I read in his autobiography.

Pretty fair points, not easy to argue. It's possible I took this philosophy that I adopted for the thread and pushed it to its limit of being useful lol. This is an interesting question that I'll briefly comment on. Ever since realizing spirituality is real in the literal sense, I've had a difficult time using mass consensus as a reliable barometer for what's actually true. What am I to think when more than 99% of the planet, including the seemingly smartest people alive, are as ignorant of a spiritual reality as can possibly be? And not just that, but the popular opinion is to be incredulous at the very notion. What bizarre series of events led to such a scenario? If nothing else, the comfort that I used to take in thinking I can know what's real because "everyone says so" has been greatly diminished. Of course, those of us who've come to a realization about reality don't always have to agree on stuff outside of spirituality. It's probably alright if Leo and I aren't in lockstep. Honestly, his knowledge in a bunch of relevant areas blows mine away, so I'd usually suggest going with him for an informed take. I'm not even sure what to make of Sam Harris. He's somehow taken up a decades-long spiritual practice, supposedly has had success reaching prized states of consciousness, and yet he continues to maintain a straight up athiestic view. Something isn't adding up, whether it's a lack of authentic meditative skill on his part, or a rigidity that simply won't allow him to make the mental leap required to intellectually understand what he experientially knows. Good chat, TGIF, brotherman.

I can relate more to these concepts, but I feel it drifts a bit back into how I was interpreting it. As like a natural expression spontaneously occurring in humanity without a real owner. A situation where even Trump would be a victim, so to speak.

lol right, and there's a fair argument that his agenda is clearly hidden in the background of the film, so I could see certain people simply preferring to not be exposed. I remember a time when the messages in TV and movies were far more subtle and tasteful. Everyone used to come together in unison of their enjoyment. And if there did happen to be an important political message in some media, it was usually not even noticed by like 95% of the audience. Things have changed a lot.

Sure, I can see that being true. A post with unique contents may call for an atypical format.

Agreed, though I'm not sure we can even necessarily label it right-wing values. Not by the strict definition of what that has meant in the past. Yeah, this may be especially unfortunate. I've heard "Am I Racist?" is genuinely very funny, regardless of your political affiliation. It's a regretful state when we get to a point where the self-reflective properties of humor (even at our own expense sometimes) has completely drained away, and we're left with a war-like attitude where winning the bigger game comes at all costs.

No problem, I'm happy to interact. It just feels like my large numbers of posts can become overbearing in some threads. So while I see a certain logic in what you're saying, there's a type of conspiratorial vibe to it that gives me pause. There appears to be quite a bit of fear, urgency, and insistence in these words, and I'm seeing the telling of a grand narrative which appears to involve a highly devious and secretive plan by those with power to exploit the populace and perform a ruse. With the scenario you've laid out, what would be the rest of the plan? Where is it all heading, and what would be the ultimate goal?

I wouldn't use the direct term of Trumpism to define it, but my answer would be similar to what you've posted, though with a few changes which I'd consider important: "Fundamentally, it's an anti-establishment movement, and Trump is just the current avatar at the head of that movement." Right, but I'd argue it wasn't necessarily Trump as the singular cause who changed them, but rather it was the influence from a much larger shift in thought that was already growing, and happening around the entire planet no less. Trump himself wouldn't be immune either. Though I can't deny that his bombastic nature didn't contribute to the current state of things. I can't claim that it's impossible that if I were more developed I wouldn't feel exactly as you're describing. It'd be foolish of me to pretend my perspective is infallible, so I must concede that it's possible Trump is the true originator of all the issues we're seeing, even though I don't believe it to be the case.

Sure, sounds reasonable enough. I don't think the republican party even exists as a meaningful distinction anymore. It seems like it's just establishment and anti-establishment now. I have a feeling that same restructuring is echoed throughout the Western world. It'll be interesting to see what comes next. Anyway, I'm taking up too much oxygen in this thread, thanks for the back-and-forth.

Well again, I'm not saying you can't or even shouldn't demonize him for what happened on Jan 6th, but rather, I'm pointing to a larger phenomenon that many appear blind to. I'm just trying to expand the context of the story as a whole.

I'm not saying you can't dislike it intensely, but my point is that focusing all your ire on Trump would be a case of missing the forest for the trees. Of course, I'm not suggesting you develop a posture of extreme hatred for others either, because that would probably turn you into a highly toxic person who lives every day in misery.

You literally just did it again, making Trump the sole focus of the anti-establishment movement. If I'm reading ici's post correctly, he's saying what I'm saying, which is that Trump is merely an avatar for a mass public way of thinking. His existence and leadership is almost inconsequential, beyond him being the current head of a long-time-in-the-making movement that predates his existence in politics. You can demonize Trump all you want, call him names that illicit feelings of severe danger in the populace, or even forcefully remove him from the equation. But you're dealing with something much larger than the fate of a single man. I'm not sure why this isn't more clear to those on the left.

No offense meant for the message you're trying to convey, but this post would be so much more readable when separated into paragraphs. Myself, and I bet many others, will just blow past this post without putting in the mental effort needed to dissect a large block of text. It's just so uncomfortable to do. Again, I don't mean any offense to you, I just want to pass along a tip that'll get you more traction in your future text-based conversations.

Yeah, perhaps something like a council of top-level leaders could be a solution to the current celebrity culture. You know things have gone wrong in the US when it's being suggested Oprah or The Rock should become president lol.

I think it's a pretty solid theory. It's similar to my own practices involving meditation, 5-MeO-DMT, kundalini inducement, and a gradual cleansing of the often-unknown energetic system that we all appear to contain. Similar to how other bodily functions work such as respiration and heart rate, where they're not just random but are instead controlled by a sort of inner biological intelligence, the same seems to apply to this energetic excitation which gathers and becomes perceptible as you approach subconscious and superconscious states. With such a high natural inclination towards spirituality, it could be an amazing journey if you decide to further pursue this kind of thing.