What Am I

Fair enough, but I think the end result of what you're suggesting would be a case of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. There has to be a way to back people into the true purpose of their religions, rather than stripping them away entirely. Doing so could inadvertently produce a darkness that's difficult to predict.

While I agree that religion in its current form is about as lame as it gets, I think it's possible you're unaware that at the root of practically every single religion lies authentic mystical doctrines. Their founders were almost certainly exemplars of spiritual exceptionalism. And moreover, all religions are connected as being essentially identical and pointing to the exact same Truth, due to their similar teachings of the perennial philosophy. If you're aware of religion's mystical origins and you just hate the hollow shell they've become, that's all well and good. But it'd be an act of great ignorance to trash them in their entirety.

No problem, sounds good. There's a few options when it comes to converting DMT freebase for oral ingestion. The simplest is to just swallow it as-is and let the conversion to DMT HCl occur in your stomach, though that can be pretty uncomfortable and I don't recommended it. I like to make DMT citrate from either dissolving the freebase in a shot glass of orange juice, or dissolving it in a shot glass of water along with citric acid. The ratio of DMT to citric acid should be roughly 1:0.35. The conversion will occur almost instantaneously as the ingredients fully dissolve in the liquid. You could also make DMT acetate using vinegar as you mentioned, but I don't have any experience with that one. It should be similar to the DMT citrate method I described above, but I would imagine vinegar might be more harsh to drink. Especially if it's not heavily diluted.

I've come across two maps of enlightenment that I figured I'd share. They're an interesting mix, because one is insanely detailed and complicated, and the other forgoes such complexity for the sake of practicality. I think there's a good amount to be gained from both, despite how different they are. Personally though, I much prefer the simpler one. With a bit more context provided in the author's autobiography, it lays out a path that you can really wrap your mind around and make identifiable progress on. The concept of targeting Sat (surrender), Chit (presence), and Ananda (heart) as the fundamental preexisting characteristics of Reality is a super elegant way of breaching the authentic spiritual condition of "I am", which can then, with extended exposure and marination, shift into the self-propelled, effortless, and lasting expression of "I am", known commonly as the "Natural State". In my experience, the concepts translate very well to real life, and they've been especially helpful in navigating my psychedelic-boosted 5-MeO-DMT efforts. Complex map Simple map

Not surprising things are heading in this direction considering psychic abilities are actually real, despite how unlikely it may seem to many of the more skeptical. I wouldn't be surprised if public discussion of the UFO topic starts taking a hard turn towards this topic, along with the revelation to humanity about our spiritual existence.

Here's a post where I previously discussed my most effective practice. Using the more simplified enlightenment map as a guide, this practice would serve the function of inducing a continuous state of presence. Additionally, it strengthens your ability of discernment by engaging the divine witness, which means you're able to better perceive the distinction between subjectivity and objectivity. This allows your identity to shift from an entanglement with thought to your pure Self of raw subjective awareness. Inducing presence is probably the most important starting point of a legit spiritual practice leading towards enlightenment. When combined with the acts of releasing the need for control (surrender) and perceiving the felt oneness with reality (heart), it can lead you to the literally unthinkable condition of "I am", which is about as far as I've gotten with and without (but mostly with) 5-MeO-DMT.

Happy to help. So yeah, if you're getting ~30mg of total alkaloids per drop in your extract, the most ideal sublingual dose would be a single drop. Two drops would also be within reason, but it'd be pushing it a bit. In my experience, you don't need to wait more than 20-30 minutes before it'll take full effect. At that point, you're correct that it'd be wise to ease back on the DMT dose, due to potentiation. Starting with 10mg of vaped DMT should probably be safe in terms of not accidentally getting thrown into the deep end. You can adjust the dose accordingly from there. Regarding pharmahuasca, there just seems to be something magical about orally ingesting both the harmalas and DMT. It could be the fact that the slower-absorbing ROA allows for more clarity to the chaotic DMT trip, or it could also be that the metabolism differs in some way. I'm not really sure why, but the experience of using them orally always seemed to produce highly preferable trips filled with extreme euphoria and insight. Let me know if you have any other questions or need more detail.

@Loveeee probably so, but even if ESP is real (which I wholeheartedly believe it is), it's probably best to follow the old axiom from the great wisdom traditions and simply pursue the relief of enlightenment like the way a person whose hair is on fire would pursue water. It's likely the better choice, rather than to chase the human capabilities that are of secondary importance.

Do you have experience with the 5-MeO-MALT breakthrough? Are you able to compare it to 5-MeO-DMT's?

Yeah, as you've noticed, they can open your awareness to what could be considered an afterlife realm. And the more powerful psychedelics, such as 5-MeO-DMT, can take you even beyond that. I suppose the "more" you're asking about would be the revelation of your existence as Consciousness, the source of all things. For me, psychedelics on the level of DMT and mushrooms function as a profoundly strong form of psychological therapy. They offer wave after wave of emotional catharsis, along with metaphysical understandings commensurate with the level of reality being tapped into. They're incredible tools, but they may not necessarily make lasting changes in the way you're hoping, assuming you're aiming for something like Awakening and Enlightenment. 5-MeO-DMT is quite a bit more powerful in that regard. Its use can cause a type of energetic purification which is normally reserved for very advanced states of meditation. A portal can be opened right to the heart of Being. If your goal is the type of achievements described in the wisdom traditions of the world, it certainly fits the bill as a powerful accelerant to move you in that direction.

For sure, a higher level of detail certainly has its place. And the inclusion of the entire eightfold path paints a more complete picture of human life lived in proper accordance with spiritual endeavors. I could see the more complex map having its uses in navigating the terrain.

I hear what you're saying, but in my opinion, the premise of the question is still a misunderstanding of what a transcendence of suffering facilitated by enlightenment actually is. What I'm talking about has nothing to do with wanting to avoid uncomfortable situations. Both a common person as well as an enlightened master would not want to be trapped in a hot little box where rats nibble at their feet lol. It's a shift in felt identity from that of a tiny individuality to a continuous mystical universality. It's a removal of the sufferer, not the suffering. I think I lack the skills to explain it any more clearly. It's probably the word "suffering" that throws everyone off so badly. Most people can't get past their conception of its meaning. Buddhism and other traditions should have used a different word to describe that from which liberation occurs.

Interesting point. There's no denying the barriers to entry are way less now, which may or may not be a good thing. I'd say definitely yes in the case of 5-MeO-DMT. It's even starting to be used at reputable meditation retreats, in both breakthrough and sub-breakthrough doses.

Yeah, I think this is a reasonable description. Suffering doesn't stop, and the wish for suffering not to occur doesn't stop. Only the individual psychological sufferer is the thing that disappears. It's a very transcendent concept that needs to be experienced to be understood. And I'm only speaking from a tiny bit of direct experience, thanks mostly to 5-MeO-DMT. I'm sure you in particular have an idea of what I mean. When you go into the 5meo breakthrough, wouldn't you say the reality you experience is without an experiencer? Or how about when you go to sleep for the night and slip into the void state beyond dreams? Doesn't it feel like there's no individual having the experience? If you extrapolate that divine superconscious identity into your subconscious and waking states, I believe that's closer to what's meant by ceasing the experience of suffering.

I maintain pretty strongly that the answer lies in this response I made to the OP earlier in the thread. Until it's understood, people will look at the notion of ending suffering and imagine some kind of goofy scenario where a person takes xanax and surrounds themselves with pillows so they can never feel mental or physical discomfort again lol. The true release of suffering would be something along the lines of an annihilation of the imagined sense of self, which only continues to survive due to its continuous refreshment from sloppy use of thought. The further you get in spiritual transformation, the less there's a sense of individuality remaining to be personally bothered by the suffering.

Probably, but I've only used 5-MeO-MALT a couple times, so it's difficult to say for sure. From the reports I've read as well as my own experience, it does seem to be the only other psychedelic besides 5-MeO-DMT that is a guaranteed rocket into the coveted superconscious state. Very different from all other psychedelics, which merely dance around the subconscious level and occasionally dip their toe into superconscious if you're very lucky or talented.

This is a good point. A strategic use of 5-MeO-DMT has the potential to be more powerful for spiritual transformation than all the mystical traditions combined. It can blast you right to the heart of the matter. It's perhaps not for everybody, but it's quite the spiritual tool.

Culadasa. He's perhaps a bit less well known, but he's solid in terms of a long-standing practice from proven lineages.

For the most detailed and accurate maps of the various signposts on the mystical path in general, it'd probably be Vajrayana Buddhism and Vedanta Hinduism. Gnosticism is very interesting as well, due to its own unique flavor. When it comes to which would be most effective for actual realization and not just intellectual recreation, it'd be whichever inspires you to pay attention to reality in a mindful way while surrendering your need for anything to be different from how it is. Each tradition will offer methods that'll point you in that direction, but it's ultimately up to you to make it occur. In that sense, they're all pretty much equal.

Sounds accurate to me. No-self would be another one of those experiential descriptors that's very often misunderstood, similar to the idea of liberation from suffering. But your use of them here jives with my understanding. Very cool indeed.

To give my two cents on this one, I would say the answer is yes. But only so far as the temporary mystical experience performs energetic purification and helps pave the way towards the full realization. In my experience, moving towards enlightenment seems to involve a progressive process rather than an all-at-once revelation, though I wouldn't be surprised to find out there's a profound experience that marks the completion of the process. My point is that many changes will happen to you along the way, and I believe that would include the attainment of genuine wisdom, which I would define as a proper alignment with ultimate reality rather than something more mundane like making smart choices.

Oh yeah, I've read that one in the past. I would consider Culadasa as legit. He had a very long-running practice and trained under some renowned lineages. It wouldn't surprise me at all to find out he's speaking from experience. Well, like I said, the suffering that the wisdom traditions claim to offer liberation from is probably not what you're thinking. Suffering still occurs, but the practice provides a true freedom from the one who suffers. Meaning suffering becomes an empty process which exists in its own suchness, without a standalone individual who could be said to be experiencing the suffering. It may be too subtle of a concept to convey here. You'll just need to experience glimpses of it for yourself. That'd be up to the practitioner. You're correct that barely anybody on earth has achieved it, or is even aware of it as an option. But it would seem you're starting to slowly become more aware. It'll be up to you whether stuff like this stuff simply remains words in books, or instead becomes your lived experience. This is an excellent pointer. A complete practice could be built using it as a foundation.

I don't like to doubt aurum, but my own understanding of the mechanics of enlightenment and the supposed "end stage" of spirituality matches pretty closely to this. Especially the bit about the directness of perception in cognizing the mystical realization. I think the notion of being freed from suffering is a slippery subject in authentic spirituality. The individual likely never ceases to suffer as long as they live. But when the sense of identity has shifted to a paradoxical combination of everything, nothing, and beyond, who could be said to be suffering at that point? I think it's very often misunderstood what's meant. I wouldn't say I've even approached it yet myself, but my peak experiences are profound enough to lend me the faith needed to trust the great masters of the past in this regard. Whoever wrote this either has some serious skill, or they've simply memorized the lingo lol. It can be hard to tell sometimes. Who's the author and what's the book?

Perhaps you're right. Even at best, I'd only consider their beliefs to be a sliver closer to what's actually true. And all the baggage that comes along with those beliefs probably negates any advantages.