What Am I

All very worthy theories. Yes, those types of channeled messages do seem to be a source for that particular way of interpreting the phenomenon. And hell, maybe they're right. But I just feel like I've seen enough pieces of the puzzle that don't fit, that I have no choice but to wonder what life on earth for humans is really all about. I wouldn't be surprised to find out the answer is nuanced.

Yeah, what you're describing is closer to what I imagine is actually happening. Although like I said in an earlier post, It could be that they have a posture of neutrality as opposed to evil. But who the fuck knows lol. It's probably very difficult for a less advanced consciousness to comprehend their motives.

Very cool, thanks, I'll check this out. I'm aware of his work with extended DMT breakthroughs via IV infusions.

Agreed, I have little doubt their technology could easily boost a person towards very high spiritual attainment. In all likelihood, even their natural spiritual presense would be enough to quickly burn through layers of human delusion.

I agree with everything you're saying as far as a human's efforts towards gaining spiritual awareness. But I think it could be a leap to assume with certainty that it's typical of all advanced species. When you take a close look at our situation, it's actually quite odd that first-person spiritual awakening is something that needs to be strived towards. And it's even more odd that most of humanity don't realize it's even a possibility. A reasonable comparison would be a population of majestic birds who live their lives walking in the mud, somehow entirely unaware of their own powerful wings, which instinct should compel them to use. Why is it that humans aren't able to easily utilize our own innate capacities? Why is there seemingly a thing called "ego" which prevents, and is in fact the antithesis, of spiritual advancement? Does it make sense to assume this bizarre scenario is standard for all higher forms of life? My guess has always been that this isn't normal.

There's no doubt that contacts have seemingly trended towards humans who are more advanced in their capacity for conscious awareness, and especially a natural tendency for capabilities like telepathy. I wonder why that is. Yeah, agreed. I feel there's a connection where DMT entities are concerned. The DMT hyperspace experience may simply be a layer of existence in which advanced beings all have access.

Right, that's not an unreasonable assumption. More so than evil, I wonder if there's a neutral disposition towards humanity at play, at least for some of the advanced species involved. And I also wonder if we're dealing with a type of experimentation scenario. When a human scientist performs experiments on lab mice, I don't think it could be said that they're doing so with malevolent intent. But at the same time, the actions being performed probably aren't in the mouse's best interests, but rather for the betterment of the scientist's own species. I just think it could be a mistake to view this whole thing through such an idealized lens. After all the info I've gathered from over 20 years of research, the story seems to be much more nuanced. While still amazingly good with incredible potential, our situation may not be the fairy tale we hope for.

Right on. Just be careful though, because along with the enhanced potential for real spiritual transformation, these two psychedelics can be more prone to causing dangerous situations. Whether through unpredictable actions on your part, strong physiological effects, or even terror from oncoming ego death that makes you call the authorities for help. Start low with your dose and move up only as you feel comfortable.

Much better if your goal is to expand awareness and pursue the typical spiritual path, with attributes like concentration and mindfulness.

Definitely give both a try if possible. They're very different from DMT, but overall pretty similar to each other.

So says a particular school of thought relating to the phenomenon, but I wonder about this one. There's a certain air of deception about the whole thing that doesn't necessarily instill hope for purely benevolent intentions. I can't personally provide an answer for why both our world governments as well as the advanced beings themselves have kept all this hidden, but I wouldn't be so quick to assume it's due to our lack of development. Mostly because the truth of what's really possible in human development is itself one of the things that's been hidden. It's so much more difficult to aim towards a universal spiritual awareness when you're unaware it exists, or get ostracized for even suggesting it. Definitely not trying to spread fear, because that won't help anyone, and many a leader has utilized fear to produce their desired outcomes. But it could be worth reviewing the whole situation from a different angle.

Good words of caution. I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

For anyone who's tried 5-MeO-MiPT, could you please describe what you got out of it in terms of spiritual practice? And especially in terms of facilitating a stronger awareness of the body? I did a few searches and found this question has been asked before, but I was hoping for some fresh input.

Nice review by this guy. He compares it to a highly euphoric, entactogenic, and recreational form of 5-MeO-DMT, which is exactly what I like hearing.

MDMA feels amazing, but you'll likely pay a bodily price for it. Either from the brutal hangover or perhaps even from something more permanent, especially if you start getting into abuse. It's a more guaranteed feel-good chemical than psychedelics, but I found it to have negative qualities that I'd be better off avoiding. I've been on an entactogen hunt myself lately. From the list below, maybe something like 2C-B or 5-MeO-MiPT would ultimately be a better choice. https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Entactogen#List_of_entactogens

I've seen a few reports on Reddit where malt was orally active, so it sounds like it'd work.

Ah gotcha, very interesting.

@Leo Gura or anyone else, are there any other 5-MeO's worth it in your opinion? Or is it all about the big three? 5-MeO-DMT 5-MeO-MALT 5-MeO-MiPT

I'm guessing it has to be related to individual variability in rectal absorption. I've read a bunch of reports where some people just need much larger amounts when plugging. I'd be super careful about assuming you need more than average when using any other ROA, or you could accidentally cause a horrific trip.

100%, we seem to be so far off the mark from how reality actually is, it's insane. The notion that the current iteration of humanity is an experiment of some type seems likely. Maybe some kind of test to see what happens when you take a spiritually advanced species and hinder their connection to their higher senses. The more you look into this stuff, it's like everyone is in on the joke but us.

Thanks everyone. Sounds like a potentially tricky molecule with huge rewards if it all goes well.

Exactly, like spiritual spacesuits for the hyperdimensional to interact here. As I guess we technically are as well. But these things differ in that they appear to exist in a conscious manner where their true origin of existence is understood and utilized. At least that's what seems to be going on with what we refer to as the Greys.

Yep, that should definitely work as a method of making it a more easily absorbable salt form. I'm very far from being skilled in chemistry, but it's my understanding that citric acid is tribasic, meaning it can react in a 1:3 ratio with tryptramines. So that would account for the 1:0.35 ratio when mixing with DMT freebase in a liquid. For 5-MeO-DMT freebase, I believe it'd be a 1:0.3 ratio. You may want to double check with an AI or something though. My chemistry skills are weak, and this is just info I've accumulated from places like DMT-Nexus.