Ishanga

Yes finally someone gets it!! Well Done!

Not on this level of Existence, its well established that there are levels to everything, that is why Leo does what he does, share videos and courses for those in need at certain levels, on this level of existence there is a "You" and "Me", in absolute level there is none of this, we are not there as we have Bodies and Mind and everything else to deal with, if You exclude those things then Your in lala land, life will bite You for sure, suffering will be the result..

I wouldn't say Humans and Chimps are similar, who is ruling this world Chimps or Humans? Identification will happen, we can choose Consciously what to Identify with, why identify with something lower than Life itself, then have to be aware of negative aspects of what Your identifying with? Just identify with the highest aspect of what we are then go from there, why make it more complicated than that?

These distinctions only come up as important when one is identified strongly with their Intellect, which provides You with the ability to discern and separate for survival purposes.. What is a Woman, what is a Man, only applies to basically how to procreate, as everything is subjective in nature, some Woman seem more like Men, and some Men seem more like Woman and everything inbetween, Your Intellects want a concreate answer, this is not one! Best to see or identify Yourself with Life itself, then discretion is nullified to a minimum, if that is not possible then identify with being Human, don't go below that, as it will cause more suffering than good in the end!

Sorry to hear about Your situation, and glad to hear that Your practices have helped You, it shows that these things, Practices/Methods/Techniques have value! I feel the same, we all have to start or be at it where we are right now, that is so often a missed aspect on this forum, where the Absolute and Infinity rule lol!! Just go deeper into what is going on within You right now, stay with it, and see where it takes You, pain will arise always, but Suffering it is a choice!

If there is no Experience then what is Life about, why are we/you/me here, and what is this about, if You cannot Experience. If Experience is real, then why are any questions being raised to whomever, and especially towards Leo the leader here, if You are just One and Imagining everything else, what is the need for questions and answers and Sharing for that matter, whom are you sharing with if its not real??

That's the plan!!

This is why Language will never be able to directly portray the Truth behind Spirituality, as Language is dual based, logic based, you have to say 'Highest' to set up a definition or intention behind what You wrote and are sharing, this contrasts with "Lowest", so there is the duality right there.. Its all relative, You have to find out what words best for You, what You resonate with and what is Your intention and willingness level, all of this is an Aspect of Your Level of Awareness, how intense is it, how established is it, and for sure how this interacts with Your Karma, which is what is making You what and who You are right now!

That's why it doesn't make any sense.. Davino recently shared an definition of Solipsism that I agree with, basically it recognizes the existence of Form, that there is Form in the world, this is different meaning than Appearance but that word can be used as well, since we are only here for a very short period of time compared to the Earth's history, so we do "Appear" then disappear. But this notion or ideology that everything is "Me" is narcissistic in many ways, the wording is completely inappropriate, the wording should be I experience everything as One, when You say it is "Me" then how do I fit into Your world??? Will You care about anything else other than this "Me"?? So I think there is Oneness, Completeness, Absolute, and we are the forms that come about from that Absolute as an Expression of Potential, we explore this Potential as Human, on this level of Realization there are different Forms and Individuals, this creates Duality, too allow Experience to arise (there is no Experience in Absolute), and from this Experiential realm we live different and separate lives, but can come back to this Experience of One if we strive for it and Experience it as a top level of Experience, and still function in this world of Duality and Form easily...

Well Today we are more secure in how we are obtaining food and such needs than ever before, more ppl are living in food secure place and with social programs in place than ever before, the problem is our economic system is so messed up, its profit based not resourced based, if it was resourced based, then everyone would have everything they need to live a basic complete life, a house/shelter, food/clothing, safe secure neighbourhoods, etc...but its not profitable for that too happen so it doesn't happen. but we have the resources and technology to make it happen..Its just a matter of willingness and consciousness... We can for sure live beyond our Survival Based process and explore our higher Potentials as Human Beings..

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I guess in that case You would be screwed, like if you get cancer and there is no treatment to get since there is nobody around to help... What I am saying is that it is possible to live completely alone within a certain level of Consciousness and Awareness, if one is not that high up that ladder then they will need more or less ppl around them, and it mostly for emotional wellbeing, yes physically we need others to help with obtaining food and medical situations, but in the end ppl want other ppl around for Emotional wellbeing and security in a way, but that can be a double edged sword...

Its all about Balance, think too much about what is going on in the world and it will depress You for sure, don't think about it and that will be depressing because the experience of loneliness, being alone is just like depression they say, it like its own mental health problem, so first create what You want to be in the world within Yourself, get rid of the "What about Me" syndrome, which is basically living above the Survival level of Perception and Awareness. The sign if a true Devotee is when they are not concerned about what they get out of something, they don't extract anymore, they just completely share with others, this is a good way to be in the world, right now its the opposite, everyone is extracting from everyone and everything around them, Vampires of a sort, and its draining energetically and pathetic to see...

You think the medical profession is saving lives? It may be in emergency situations, but why are the emergencies happening? Accidents, stupid events being put on by stupid ppl, too much chaos because everyone has a plan and wants to execute it in a place where millions and millions of ppl have their own plans and want to execute it as well, there is where it all happens... If your alone and know the reality as it is, very content and peaceful you'll be at peace with death and such if accidents do happen...

LoL just listen to Yourselves, all of You that buy into this stuff, its nonsense "True but Not True", this is nonsense, your all just going to end up in a loop of cyclical thinking hopelessly caught up in it, wasted life sorry to say...

I think they have done research that for "Survival" level of living we are very good within Tribes of about 500 ppl, I heard/read something about that, but in today's world of mega cities, millions of ppl living in tight spaces (I hear here in Toronto there are certain culture groups that join in and rent a spot and 10+ppl live in it, that is the only way they can afford it), is not so healthy, for sure my observations and experience tell me this, it creates chaos and suffering overall, nothing works right in those places, but in small groups on survival level experience its fine... For overall potential, yes we can live alone and be perfectly fine, as all Experience happens within us, you can create whatever You want to experience at will, under your control, it would be a bit harder to find Your own food, or grow it, and build Your own housing and such, but many have done this and its been done over the generations and it worked out fine... We are too spoiled today, ppl think loosing Uber or Wifi is a absolute disaster when it means very little in the overall scheme of things!!

Blissful for sure, but Bliss is not the goal per say, its the foundation, with Bliss as a natural state of occurrence, not due to a certain situation being in place in your Life, then you will go full speed ahead on everything Your Involved with, when Bliss is not the natural state, then Your looking to extract from outside, and other, and Fear will eventually rule fundamentally, all issues of Security (What about Me) come from this state of unconscious Fear, as you are just a tiny speck, anything can happen to You, and if it does it will be forgotten in a day or two, so most of the ppl live in this sort of state, or an up and down yo yo existence, both of which do not Empower You in any way, but Bliss does, when it is in place then Potential and Possibility open up for You in many ways!

I would say the heart represents Emotion, the ability to Feel and Experience that is not Intellectual/Mind based on Survival and Calculation, sorry if I am misplaced about this in regards to what You mean by "Heart", but that is how I interpret it...

Just sharing this, since I'm involved with Isha, saw this podcast of someone that is long time volunteer with Isha, and has been with Sadhguru many times, used psycedelics many times, and he recounts his journey on the path, he is humble, says many times he doesn't know what it means to be Enlightened, or what Life is all about, but has some struggles now and then and some high times too, its just an interesting take on how it is going for him, thought to share here... Two part series... part 2

I don't know why I always get sucked into these convo's, but when I see stupid stuff like this I just can't sit quietly by lol... General definition of Solipsism is only You exist, so your whole sentence here makes no sense, if solipsism is true what everything and everyone are you talking about??? This is just stupidity on a high scale.. You have a Body and Mind, that is much more capable than Your normally using it, which is mostly for survival, but in higher up stages You can experience everything as You, but You misinterpret this as "Only I exist", the communication of it is wrong in that manner, You can experience everything as You, but you are not the only thing in existence...

I can agree with this, we need both I guess on this world, the philosopher and mystic, both are here because it is meant to be that way... I just don't think Osho was a liar or anything like that, he just didn't pay enough attention when his organization was formed and being run by the ppl that ran it, it lead to allot of crazy stuff that may degrade his brand and such, whereas Sadhguru is hands on with it and monitors it, you never really hear anything bad about Isha other than the haters that are always there because of jealousy or some other craziness within them, when You want to do big things in this world you will always have haters, that means you doing it right!

Everyone around here talks about Infinity and Absolute, that's fine but what about Your everyday life and experience, is that not worth something just as important as Infinity and Absolute? If Your down in the dumps, anxious, Depressed, Bitter, what does that mean, is it empowering or not? Osho on this issue...

I think they are too, many seem to think Sadhguru is a copy cat of Osho, this is not true imo, if You research enough there are huge differences, but their logic is basically the same, but this logic is only used via the communication to the society they are in during their times of being active, its only to once again create Curiosity.. Sadhguru is much more Yogic based and Scientific in his methods that he shares, they are powerful process and methods, very specific in design and usage, its basically do this and this will be the effect, Osho is not like this from my research, he has methods but not as specific as Sadhgurus, plus Sadhguru does consecration of temples and other things outside of the sharing of methods, he himself is like a Linga or Energy source, it balances out the Karma of the world in many ways, having ppl like him alive and walking around on the Earth.. here on this instagram page, Sadhguru describes how it works in Yoga, the Yoga is the Science, the Kriya is the Technology, the Guru makes the technology which is based on the Science of Yoga, there is a difference, this was news to me up until recently.. The Guru specifies the Technology or method to the ppl that are going to be using it in that day and age, its not all the same!! https://www.instagram.com/p/C-ZKSFRIO3s/?img_index=1

The Methods do not make You anything, they just make it Easier to be Aware of that is all. We are all already Enlightened, we are just not Aware of it, methods/techniques make Awareness possible, by doing many many things, via causing Ease in life, Energies become more Intense and Alive, Your more Now focused rather than Mind fixated and pas/future orientated, words cannot describe it all, but without no Methods then no one is going anywhere on a permanent basis.. Talking about it like what it being done around here is akin to walking around in circles all day thinking Your going somewhere...Ppl Like Osho and Sadhguru just inspire You to go in the direction, they share tibbits of Truth on the Intellectual level, it makes us curious, that curiosity leads us to ways to make our Potential arise within Us, that is all..

He's probably one of the most Effective Speakers on Spirituality there ever was, he was very unique for sure in how he presented things and how he went about it, You can always tell if someone is special or not by what happens after they die, if ppl are still talking about them years and years later then they did something with their lives for sure!