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Talk on AI!

According to Yogananda the Astral Plane is akin the Heaven as it is referred to in the Bible, seems like once there wholly then anything You want to have happen can happen by the power of Your Mind, and he says there is a level beyond this as well...

I knew the Real One would appear! May we all bow down to the Lord Saviour, YoUr TiMe hAs CoMe!!! :):):)

Ok. For sure we have to accept what is, as a natural thing, not an intellectual exercise, if You down in the dumps, that is the way it is right now, accept it with Ease. I like to look at this stuff from a Third person POV, overall empowering emotions are healthy, disempowering ones are not so healthy. In one camp there are those that think we should feel all the emotions we are capable of having, I see the point here its like "why limit myself to just empowering emotions, I want to feel all of it", the other camp is "I just want to feel good all the time", the cool part about being human is that You can choose btwn both or neither, feel numb all the time is another option, its up to the individual really. Personally, I've had depression and anxiety, never want to go back there again, so its empowering emotions and experience is all I really want to have...

Pseudo Spirituality! - Everything is God, if everything is God, then everything is Okay - Everything is Imaginary, or a Dream, there is no Trueness, Materialism, Physicality, or anything beyond that because it all a figment of the Mind. - Only I exist, everything else comes from a projection of my Mind - Nothing is really Happening, nor did anything ever Happen, nor will anything Happen in the Future, hence nothing has any Meaning - I am not Responsible for anything because everything is God, if God did not want it too be happening he would not have created it, so I am not Responsible - Because I have no Responsibility for anything, why do anything as nothing has Meaning or Purpose - I am GOD Real Spirituality! - God/Absolute is Everywhere, within Me and the Rock beside me and in the sky, air, plants, shit, and anything that I can sense and not sense. - Life is infinite Intelligence, that is what God is, via that Intelligence PotentialPossibility is the fundamental nature of God/Absolute - All Life is an aspect of this Potential/Possibility equation, but not all Life is equal or the same, there are Levels to everything in Existence - The Fundamental Structure of all Life is the same, but different forms of Life have different Capabilities - Human Beings are gifted with the Highest Capabilities of all Life on this Planet, we have the most sophisticated Nervous System, Neurological System. most developed Intellect, and the Highest Potential to be Conscious or Unconscious - Free Will, the Ability to Respond and Choose is the Missing Link to It All, this gives Us total control over How we are within ourselves, and our ability to control our Destiny, but to activate our Free Will abilities we have to be extremely Conscious and Aware of Reality/Truth/Absolute/God.. -Bliss is the safest path, via the path of Bliss, You become devoid of Self, no more Fear, or self concern, then Your absolutely Free from karma and bondage, using any other way is more dangerous and risky and can take more lifetimes - Karma is the residual effect of all the action that has ever taken place, cause and effect, its is what makes the Universe and Materialism/Duality Possible, without it You would not be able to exist as You are, its the Bubble surrounding the Life that You fundamentally are within It. Burst the Buddle and individuality is over for You.. Karma is ingrained in every aspect of what You are, it the underlining Software that structures Your Life on a certain path, You don't decided what path You are on, but You decide How to walk the path You are ON

Interesting belief system You have there, good luck:)

The problem here is not the Pleasant Emotions, its the expectations. Too say that the Emotions of Anger, Bitterness, Frustration, Shame, Hopelessness, Anxiety, Depression are Healthy is sorry to say insane. It is very much proven these Feelings and Experiences are very UnHealthy, that is why we don't want ppl to feel this way.. Its Like Kindergarten around here, You have to explain the most basic stuff to ppl. Let me ask You, would You want Your Children to Feel Anxiety, Depression, Suffering, Anger on a consistent basis? Yes its okay if they experience as a passing thought, an hour or so here or there, but what would happen if it was all the time for any of those Emotions, would You want that for them? Now reverse the equation, would you want them to Feel Happy, Peaceful, Excited, Hopeful, Blissful, Joy, Exuberance, Love and what would happen to our bodies if this was our natural experience (forget about trying to Survive and protect, or find shelter or make money). For sure it the body would be in great if not perfect health!

told You so!

Well its complex, one would have to go into each situation and see what the root reason why someone does what they do.. Ppl choose the wrong partners because somewhere they think they will get somethng out of it. same with Drugs, the addict logically knows its bad for them, but they can't stop it its completely compulsive and they go for what they know or think will give them that temporary high. Some are just choosing lesser pain to avoid greater pain, its tricky for sure and complex, but the root of it is we want pleasure more than most anything.

Bliss is not the goal, Bliss is just the vehicle that one uses to rise up on the Spiritual Path, if one goes thru suffering, they can get there because Suffering is Intensity as well, but its a very hard and risky path, one can fall off and just suffer and have no Spiritual Realization, via Bliss as a natural experience, You will go full speed forward and be more curious as to what lies beyond Bliss...

That was the intent I got from Your reply...I could be wrong.. This is not a belief, there is nothing to believe in it, just try it out and see what happens, do both ways, try taking Responsibility for a test drive, realize truly that everything that is going on in my life is my responsibility, I am the one creating it, my joy or misery, my pain or pleasure, success or failure, I am the one creating all Experience, not anything outside of me..then try out for a month, God is everything, God is everywhere, God Created Everything, so what can I do about it! See what happens!

I think there is an Equation always going on in our heads, I first heard this from Tony Robbins, always You are trying to Gain Pleasure and Avoid Pain, just look at every decision You make! It will become clear what is going on.. But it is complex how we work this equation out in our lives.. People will work Jobs they hate, but being poor and homeless is more painful. Do You have favorite foods or foods You refuse to eat (not because of health reasons), what sort of movies to do You like and why, same with music, do You listen to music You do not like to listen too? This equation is everywhere in our lives, and its set up to somehow have more pleasure than pain in our lives, not saying we always get that but that is the way it is, prove me wrong!

Nicely Put!

So you believe that sharing my beliefs in contrast to what others belief is not a very healthy thing, Hm Ok

Anyways, Sadhguru is like Bruce Lee, publicly Bruce is considered to be the Best Martial Artist of all times pretty well, as someone that studied him indepth, he was super highly skilled, he learned nunchuks from his student for a movie in two days, he did this with everything physical, teach it too him and he was doing it better than You in a day, he was an Intelligent fighter, and he did fight but not in comps, he was small but very strong and the fastest one yet they say, he had it all..but there were others not known, slightly different attributes but just as skilled, there always is..., Sadhguru is like this, publicly he's top dog, no one is as Conscious or Spiritually gifted, he Consecrates, creates Temples for christ sake, initiates ppl that he has never met, does physical feats at old age, and has been teaching, sharing, providing, building for 40+yrs, but there are other not known that have what he has, they are just hidden, to balance it all out, even Sadhguru says he is stupid to be in the public as has been all these years, but someone has to do it...

Right now I have a muscle strain in my upper rear left back/should area, its been there for two weeks and it effects my neck at times, its a discomfort, but its not a suffering, its minor pain at times, but I can still use my body as needed at work, if I was suffering this would not be possible.. Big difference btwn pain and suffering... When we realize "I am not the Body or Mind" then Suffering is gone, as suffering is in the mind, where else would it be? If You had no mind then how would You suffer? But You will still feel the pain of the toe stubb and lost luv but it won't make You suffer, suffering is always a choice, unconscious choice for most.. Once You master that, then life opens up!

Someone invented boats, they at first worked okay, but then someone invented a rutter, then the boat went more accurately to where they wanted it too go, rather than just going where "it" wanted to go or where the wind blew it. That is Us we are that rutter, we can decided to comment on a post or not, life just enables both choices to appear...

"It doesn't care about your interpretations, thoughts and ideas about it.:- PA Then why comment! Because You have an huge Ego, so do I. That is Unconsciousness at play, we all do it, but some are Conscious of this Unconscious play act, others are not!] That is the start of it, much more to come after this part,,, but if nothing is really happening then You will just stop and accept it as it is, then Your gone forever, You have to go on after this simple Conscious act of knowing You do no it all but a bit of light has shown thru, then the light gets bigger and bigger...if nothing is really happening then there is no light at all..yes yes, nothing means nothing hence the above OP!

For someone to HAVE, they have to DO some action for the most part... But the two are interchangable I agree, some HAVE-->DO---BE

If You don't know that Your rambling here then let me tell You now, Your trying to justify an Ideology you've bought into with very bad arguments and logic... The problem Your having and lots around here is not many are really doing the work, to find out what truth is, its inside of You all around You, but You cannot perceive it, it takes some work to get to that level of perception, your totally Intellectual in your understanding which is a very very basic level of knowing...

When You say Nothing is Happening, that is saying nothing matters which means that everythiing is okay as it is.. Acceptance is something we have to do to stop Stress and allow Ease into Our lives, but that doesn't mean we want things to be the way it is, Acceptance just stops the stress response, no more fight/Flight within... But not everything that is happening in the world is Okay, and many ppl including You don't seem to think this way, as I said above Your words that You repeat over and over again say it clearly.. Same with Everything is Random chaos, its not random chaos, its unconsciousness, ppl walking around living by accident making stupid decisions. You think this Planet and Galaxy and Universe just happened by Randomness? That is false science and false conclusion for sure...

Stubbing toe and hunger and sunburn are not suffering, that is Pain, pain will always exist as long as You have a Body and Mind, Suffering is not that, Suffering is You stub your toe, it heals, the pain is no longer there, but You constantly bring it up in Your mind and relive it moment to moment and feel it over and over again, so Suffering for the most part is Mind Made...

Projection, Appearance, You guys use these words to avoid the Truth, its like when You were a kid and hid under the covers when You got scared, You do what You have to do to hide from the Truth, the Truth is You have this Body and Mind, You perform Action while here that will cause consequence for You and maybe ppl around You, it has meaning on a certain level, not that Absolute Level that Your all obsessed with, this is not that place, you have access to it, but most of the time that place is not in your experience and alive for You. so You do what You have to do here, take Responsibility, face the Truth, You can live beyond the Body and Mind and Experience the Absolute anytime You want, but You still have to deal with the shit that goes on here, if You deny that, then You deny any sort of meaning or responsibility which is insanity once again..

@Javfly33 When the argument they state fails, they go to the State of the Absolute and say "It doesn't Matter, Nothing is happening anyways", but when their ego gets hit, they post why didn't You do this or that, its so very obvious what is going on in the majority around here,,, this is akin to terrorist that claim Allah told them its okay to kill the infidels and so forth, its the same ideology, it completely blinds ppl when they go this route, they will intellectual justify the belief and go to extreme measures to do so... If God is everything, from Compassion and Devotion, To Shitting on Your Kid and getting them to eat it, and all of it is okay (since Nothing is really happening, its all Appearance), then what else to call this but complete Insanity!