Ishanga

The Mind and Intellect luvs to have boundaries and limits in place, why is this? Its because it luvs security and knowing what happens next and such, this is all Survival level of Awareness and Living, its not near what Enlightenment is, so Enlightenment I would say is just a word we use to describe the Ultimate Human Potential, which is Boundlessness, Total Freedom, Liberation, what do all these words describe? They Describe what cannot be put into a Box or Limit or Physicality which is all about Boundaries, Limits, and Confinement, opposite of the above words!

Its a Realization, like when You go from being a Child to Puberty, and then from Puberty to Adulthood, its just comes as a Realization, a Fundamental Shift in Your Perception has taken place, saying words over and over again in your mind is not meditation or a spiritual practice, its only helps in the beginning, to get it intellectually, but in the end it has to be a Experiential thing, it just happens over time, you can't make it happen which the Intellect luvs to do..

1) Blissful of Your Own nature, its naturally occurring and not due to any circumstance! 2) Highly Aware of what is going on around You, and within You, the Unconscious and Subconscious mind is within Your Awareness, You know why thoughts and desires are coming up in Your Mind and Life, and You are Aware of the Karma that is present in Your Life, why the situations that are happening are happening.. 3) Your Naturally Kind, Compassionate, Gentle, but can at Your own Will be assertive and forthright, and confrontational (in a aware and compassionate way, tough love per say), when needed. 4) Your Attracted to Nature, Natural things that happen and you feel very connected to Nature and the Universe as a Whole!

@Princess Arabia Yes, Technology has not really helped our Society and the ppl in it, its disabled them tremendously, so rather than being an Aid to ppl as it should be, its taken over their lives, its everything to them, First it affected their physical abilities, even though in many jobs there is still hard labour (I know my job has a some of it, 50% of it is hard at my age, legs are dead tired at the end of most days), ppl are not working as hard as before, and with tech on the rise thru the years, ppl are for sure lazier and more prone to sit or lie down all day then having to get up and do things like it was when I was young... Mentally its numbed ppl beyond measure, its made ppl brain dead, and too reliant on outside help to communicate or figure things out, for sure there is someone on this forum who posts allot (won't mention his name) that uses AI to create his posts/threads, I can tell by the writing it is not him personally, so that is a hinderance and will be the downfall of humanity, we are the weakest generation ever for sure mentally and physically due to Technology, this overall is a sign of Low Consciousness/Awareness of Reality and what it means to be Human!

Love in not a Calculation or Contract, it is not "If You do this or that for Me I will Love You, and visa versa for them", Love is an Inclusion, that is why You feel the way You do when You experience Love, You Have Included them as a part of Yourself, and this is why this translates to not only other human beings but possessions, ever see a person lose a house in a hurricane and how they react? They Loved the House, the House was a part of them, so when it is gone they Grieve.. So Unconditional Love only works when Your Naturally Blissful within Yourself, if Your not it won't work and it becomes a contract or calculation, which is not Love at all!

Absolute, i would say from how I understand it from an Experiential POV and researching it from many Indian masters, Absolute is a non physical realm of Potential, its all about Oneness, Completeness, Absolute, Eternal, Infinite, and all these Grand words, but if You look at simply, its all Potential and Possibility, so from that, we here on this dual material planet have to exist as a part of the Potential that exists, so existence goes from Gross (us, everything on this planet, raw material, etc), to Subtle (the Absolute is the most subtle, for our purpose, Kundalini is the most subtle aspect of the physical I would say, everything after that is non physical, can't be measured), and we are here to play this game of duality and potential, we can live like Goats, or Gods, its up to us if we evoke our Free Will..

In my observation Your question, a Why question, is only coming from Your Intellect, it want to break things down, discern btwn this and that, separate, divide up the Universe, dissect it to find the answers, it doesn't work like that, You won't find the answers Your looking for... From what I know, everything breaks down from Gross to Subtle, our bodies are Grossness, Atoms are much more Subtle, Energy is even more Subtle, Kundalini even more so, so it goes like that, but there are no details to know, and even if You knew them they would not help You in anyway because another Intellectual question will arise, it turns into a cycle of really not knowing anything!

No body in particular decides, and its not about a Comparison, because the Intelligence that is the Universe and Reality is not a Calculating type of Intelligence, its a Creator type of Intelligence.. The simplest way to look at it this, Tell me the complete make up of an Atom, what is is exactly, how it is there to be, what created it and exactly how does it work? Can we explain, can modern science explain it completely, does modern science have a complete understanding of the Atom? I use the Atom as a simple example since it is one of the smallest objects in existence, now if we do not have a complete understanding of the smallest object, then what does that mean? It means the sophistication of the Atom is beyond our understanding, so therefore it must be very very complex, doesn't that translate to a sort of intelligence? To me it does, whatever created existence as we know it, created very small things like the atom and very large things like planets, stars and huge Galaxies, so we cannot nor ever will understand it in any significant way, its too complex, sophisticated, intelligent, and I venture to say Alive! Reality, God, Absolute is not Love or anything like that, its a Grand Intelligence, that allows the Wind to blow a leaf around in the air right in front of our eyes, if You are intelligent You will Realize this is a Miracle! Everything, including Yourself, is an Absolute Miracle!

Spiritual Path, Isha Yoga is my preferred method, first You get Your self dis identified with Body and Mind, then Money will not be a problem, then other life potentials open up!

@Jac067 Money is just a tool. but the way our cultures (its world wide now) has set Money up, it becomes a sort of God like experience, ppl are in search of it, luv it, glorify it and idolize it, so Money has replaced God in many ways, unfortunately we need it to live, so its okay to place a certain amount of importance to it, but it has its place.. To overcome this, one has to find within themselves a deeper Experience of Life, that allows You to see how things are set up, what is realty is and isn't, money is not reality its a man made thing!

People are posting to ask questions in search of answers, all they need to do is a simple search, that is what I did when I first got here, i searched things I was interested in and read some threads. Yes I agree about the meaning aspect, ppl focus on what is meaningful to them, no problem with that, which is why I respect Leo in how he set up this forum, its got a place for most anyone with all the various sub forums and topics ppl can discuss, so that part is very good..

That is why there is no answer to most Why questions, especially the big ones, Why are we here, What is the purpose of Life, What is Life/God/Absolute, there is no answer that Satisfies because like You say it is relative.. But where is this question coming from? Animals and Plant/Insect Life, can/are they asking this? I think not, maybe in their own way they are, but probably not, they just Live Life. So that is why I call it a Game, it has rules, boundaries, because we are here as Humans, playing out this game, with Life inside of us, full of Potential, so in simple language its a Game.. Ppl like the OP that ask these questions, wanting answers of sorts, will just come back empty handed and probably have more questions arising, so it becomes endless, how many threads have been started here with the same question, why does it come up over and over again? Cycles, Karma at play, same thing over and over again, intellectual mind loops gets one know where...sooner or later forums like this lose their meaning/purpose...

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This is Solace, or on the level of Security, or What about Me (I hope I am taken care of and things go well), of course we all have this within us, its at a certain level, but in the end, as we see in the world today with all these conflicts, its causes allot of Suffering Individually and Collectively... Sadhguru said in one of his videos that Religion is like cheap psychiatry, as well it puts a set of rules on society that helps it get along and flow, so its not so chaotic... but if You really buy into it then it is dangerous to do so...

Life is really a Game, You can make it a Serious Game or a Blissful Game, its about Choice, so Your here to work out this game of Choice, its not a dream, its as real as it gets for a Human, but if You take it too Seriously, take Yourself too Seriously then its not a Fun or Enjoyable Game, so choose!

Its all shared in the right atmosphere for it too be shared, the advanced programs and if one really wants to go all the way, the Bramacharya program and the Sadanapada program (7mths of committed Spiritual Practices and other things set up for the participant) at the Coimbatore Ashram, as well there are other things ppl can do if they can't commit like that, Isha Walks and trips to Himalayas which are very transformative for those that attend, and of course the Temples he has Consecrated, the Dylanalinga being the main one!

No, he's talking Experientially, not as a Reality that there is only You. He clearly says that there are individual Bodies and Minds, but that there is no Individual Life, by Life he means what ppl around here refer to as God or Absolute. As well he mentions levels, so there are levels, these levels again refer to Awareness I think, if You on a low level of Awareness You feel and experience Yourself as Separate from everything, if its high then You Feel Inclusive, One with Everything, this is very different from how Leo and others here describe/define Solipsism!

did You read what I said?? Householders like You and I will not be sitting all day on a cushion lol, and what Your talking about above, its ambition, this is a reflection of the Desiring process, You want to be more than what You are right now, so call it Ambition, Greed, Conquest, Success, wanting to have bigger arms, whatever, that is a Spiritual process, but Your Unconscious of it, You think You want a specific goal, like more money, fame, freedom, etc, but its Spiritual, You wanting to be More than what You are right now, if you play it out to the end You want complete Freedom, total Liberation, no Boundaries. If someone gave You the entire world to own and do what You want, eventually You will want the moon too! No you won't quiet the mind, you want to turn down the volume of the mind so You don't hear it as loudly anymore, if You quiet the mind then You forget all the stupid things and mistakes You have made and will repeat them, just use the mind for what it is there for, then don't use it when You don't need it, this is our Human nature to control all aspects of what we have to use, I am not the Body or Mind, so they are tools to use, like You use your hands everyday!

Its simple, Spiritual Sadhana is specific, going out in nature is general, both are used for certain things, if You want to go beyond Survival Level of Awareness, have more Possibility and Potential exposed to You in Your Life, then You have to do Specific Spiritual Sadhana like Kriya Yoga, but if you just want general Wellbeing, take walks in a nice park or the woods, be active, eat right and avoid stressful situations and You will have some general level of Wellbeing!

Yes its about raising the Individuals Consciousness.. What I mean by technique is the sitting and eyes closed stuff, that cannot be done 24/7 by a Householder type person that is out in the world with family and work life... They other things are more of an Internal Awareness that Life is found in this Moment, not the past or future memory/imagination matrix, and that I can choose how to Respond to Situations rather than being Reactive and things of this nature, it reduces the stress response, so that no stress is present in life, from that naturally Ease comes into Your Experience, Life becomes effortless and flowing, Your not lazy in life, Your very active and full of energy and vitality, but no stress is felt, now Your more enabled to experience Higher Consciousness, the techniques are mostly used in the beginning to get things going, to revitalize the Energy system, calm down the nervous system, bring things to ease and balance..

Its about being "Meditative", not performing a technique 24/7, this is the problem with applying Intellect to a non intellect aspect of Life we call Spirituality!

Your looking at it in the wrong context.. There are Householder Paths and Brahmacharya Path, most all of us here are Householders, we have families and work and social lives, the Brahmacharya are completely devoted to Spiritual Paths, those types will sit in Sadhana/Meditation for 5hrs a day, Householders do not, they do maybe an hour a day tops of what ppl think meditation is, eyes closed and sitting, the rest of the day is full of activity and then sleep, during those times, One is working on Awareness, Living Now, One Pointedness(focus), Responding vs Reacting, practical stuff like this.. Lots of this is dependent on two factors, Your Karma and Your Intention in Life, ppl today are too multi focused and on things that are not even their own creation, but borrowed dreams type stuff...

Whenever there is a Why or What question, its coming from this always questioning Mind and Intellect, Thinking ideologies mixed with Egoic identification, trying to find the Answer that cannot be answered! Some Self Appointed Authority says "God is this....", what choice do You have after hearing that answer, only to believe or disbelieve, that is a huge problem because right off the bat your on the path away from Truth.. This can go on forever, just like this forum is, same questions and threads repeating over and over again, its mind games totally! Do You want the Truth as an Experience or Not? Then just look inside, figure out how this thing called a Body and Mind works, and not thru intellectual research from someone else's work, just self Inquiry, can You do No Thing for an Hour a day, no thoughts, no judgement, no wanting/needing, no searching, no questioning, no reasoning, etc... and just observe what happens? I'm sure once everything gets quiet then something will be revealed that is Truly Yours and only Yours to know..

Define "God".. There are Individual Bodies and Minds, what I think of as God, or Shiva/Absolute/That which is Not, is a Grand Intelligences of Sorts, it was there before any sort of Creation happened, all of Us have this Grand Intelligence within Us, but that does not mean I am a God or God/Absolute completely and totally, I'm Human, I have this Absolute as the Seed of what I am, but I have to seek it and discover it, its not in my Awareness naturally, and its the same for most ppl, some are gifted and its easier to access for them. Once this Grand Intelligence/Absolute is accessed in Your Life, then Your Living beyond just Survival and Accumulating ppl, places and things, You live to a higher Possibility and Potential, it has no end really!