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When Your Blissful of Your Own nature, everything will appear as Beauty and Your Experience is that of Loving Everything, that is the only way it happens, it won't happen intellectually and by dividing everything, likes and dislikes, conditioning and so forth. Most of Us are not in this state of Bliss always, its may come and go, or never come at all, then this is where ppl see this place as a Hell scape of sorts, on some level this is so, there are ppl Experiencing life and situations as it is in Hell, the opposite is also true, practically we can all be living is a so called Heavenly place, that has outer situations and environments set up almost perfectly, but this is not profitable for the power players, we need workers to set things up.., Just check out Dubai, on the surface it looks perfect, like a space city of the future, but someone not seen for the most part has to be working to make it all happen, they are in a Hell scape probably internally in a way, the one benefitting are in Heaven Scape internally, but all of Us can be available to Heaven internally if we just do simple things internally which makes suffering impossible, pain will still exist but no suffering...

Who interprets the data, the AI? The AI maybe biased, as it is functioning on data given inputted to it which is biased as well.. Why not just gain some internal awareness and do it ourselves?? This is the problem we are looking for outward things to do the work that we can do ourselves.. Ppl go to the movies to be entertained, but we have within Us an Imagination, if You tap into that imagination You can create whatever experience you want to experience, its 4, 5 D, movies are 2D, why downgrade when You do it yourself in a much better way...

Heaving or Hell is an internal thing, there are ppl living today right now and in their Experience this place is an Absolute Heaven, and the opposite is true too, and for sure External situations have an affect on this, but external situations should not be the absolute determinate of how You Experience Life.. The Body is designed to be Healthy for at least 80 yrs if You live right, but our society and culture, industry poison us, but we do have the knowledge to be able to have healthy bodies for long periods of our life, but this is not profitable... The Earth is a living entity, its provides everything we have, our Bodies included, and its very adaptable, we just don't treat is like a part of ourselves, if we did then this would be an absolute paradise on all levels of practicality, now it is not because we have abused it.. Our Minds to are meant to be our slaves, today for most we are slaves to our Minds, its up to Us on how this plays out...

All the problems ppl are having in life is simple due to being Unconscious of what it means to be Human and to what Actions they are doing on a daily, minute by minute basis, Karma is at play and it is ruling them. Karma means action, and the residual effect all the actions You have done in the past and how it affects Your Experience in the present moment where life is found.. Actions are in 4 areas, Body, Mind, Emotion and Energy, how Aware are You of all the actions taking place in these areas? Most of Us are below 1% Aware of any of the actions taking place in these areas, by being Aware I am not talking about Mental thinking Awareness. So because of this Karma is playing out, Actions are happening on autopilot and ppl are living by Accident, hence there is allot of Suffering because of it. There are many Solutions, the basic ones are Living Now Totally (Use past to become Wise, not wounded, use future to plan but don't live there), Accept Everything as it is Totally, this stops all Stress Response from Happening, and Respond to Now Totally rather than React, Responding is Conscious Action, Reacting is Unconscious Action.. if You apply these simple steps, then Peace and Ease is Your Natural State, via that Clarity opens up, and Life Potentials Open up naturally, helping it along with some serious Sadhana will get the job done within this lifetime...

We can do this ourselves, I watch my egoic reactions daily, I'm out and about in the public allot at work, my ego is constantly judging, constantly evaluating and making conclusions, so we can do these sort of tests internally and be aware of what is what within ourselves, its easier of course to do simple tests like the above to get a general understanding, but more complex testing as You describe above would be unpractical, you'd need a scientific team almost to watch you and analyse the data then it gets too much on that side of things...Mindfulness is just this, Your Aware of all the actions taking place within Yourself, the Conscious and Unconscious come into Awareness, then with a space between what is You and not You Experienced You go from there and live life as You see fit, for sure this will bring about Life Empowering Actions to not only Yourself but to every other life around You...

Just experience the Space between what is You and Not You, then the Mind will be in your control and not ruling, and when that happens then You can access much of the mind other than it being a Thinking and Thought making machine totally influenced by what is outside of You via bias sources...

Proof, no Proof, requiring proof, means Ego, Intellect, still not knowing, its like a stranger saying to You that You only have 3 fingers on each hand, You know You have 5, if it bothers You then that is Ego arising, if it doesn't then You know...Knowing vs Believing, Belief is of the Mind, Intellect, Data Collected, Karma being created and live thru, this is not realization, this is just low Potential, tragedy really...

There are literally thousands of forms of Sadhana, Mediation is too general, it really doesn't describe the process, its like saying that I only eat Food, well what type of food, what culture of food, what brand of food, on and on... If You find a certain method boring or not liking it, then that is a sign... Forget about quieting the mind, the whole point of the mind generally is to think, its your identification with it that is the problem not the mind itself, if You think You are the thinking/thoughts then Your too involved, You believe this is what I am, thoughts, opinions, ego, conclusions, teaching, info/data, which is not the case, the key is too know what YOU are not first, then what You are comes into Your Experience.. You can work on the level of the Body, the Mind, the Emotions and/or Energy, these 4 areas makes up most of what makes us Human, find a Sadhana that challenges You in these areas, but works well in Your life, then commit to it, depending on Your Karmic make up it can show results in a week or a year, keep at it, the switching back and forth, starting/stopping/starting is what prevents ppl from experiencing their Potential in Life!!

Similar to other test, some of the questions were repeated but asked in different ways, and I could have chosen other answers but I choose the one closest to how I feel about things, overall it confirms what I know about Reality, that it is all about Potential and Possibility, we as humans just have to chose how much P&P we want to utilize in our Embodied Reality... Results-

Anyone that goes on your journal will see the same thing so please!! It just a revelation, I do not criticize everything, there was a post just a few minutes ago that I agree with, this is the reality, we agree and disagree just release it after wards, be open to others read what they say, reply to it or not, no big deal, we all do it, it doesn't mean that is the way I am or the way You are necessarily... Being Human is complex in some ways, especially functioning within a society and with ease...

@Alex4 This is a good idea, the more countries we have the more complexities arise and then life for the Masses gets worse imo... Countries are man made things, lines on maps, as its money, economic, political systems and so on, all this is to help the masses live better, more healthy lives, but its all failing, life is getting more complex, more suffering is arising out of all of this, the why shifts over from generations to generations largely due to how technology is utilized, today it is utilized for some to take advantage of others and profit from it, so that has to stop, we can use Tech to help all, part of this is change is for all systems to benefit the masses, but in today's age there is no "Profit" in doing that, so that is the main thing, change that sort of mind set, get rid of profit, one person being overlord over many, Less Countries, more simplicity, let tech work for our benefit and we can thrive!!!

Well there is a Bliss Body, which comes after the Astral Body, they call it Bliss Body because it is indescribable what it is, but when Your InTouch with it You Feel Bliss, I am not sure if this is the Atman/Soul or something else, but its non physical in nature. I've read as well that when You can Consciously access the astral Body, all desires are accessible, its like living in a Holodeck from Star Trek, You can create any reality or experience. But it all happens within You, these are just parts of You, Liberation is total annihilation of all of this, no more individuality or Bodies of any nature, no more ability to Experience anything, just merge with Absolute, like a drop of the Ocean going back into the Ocean...

I have, many of them, and there are many "Bodies" not just the Food or Physical Body, so it is still happening within them, some call the astral body, others call it the etheric body, its a transitional body, btwn physicality and non physicality, but its still a body of sorts...

For sure this is happening, hence my thread that this place is still low consciousness.. Low Consciousness is ppl gaining power and abusing it, it happens, how we respond to it is everything for the one receiving the abuse, you can use it wisely or be hurt by it, that is the choice but its happening, even Leo abuses his fans, doesn't respond to questions, is cranky and closed minded on many issues and definitely has a God complex, all knowing and such, only once in awhile do I see some humbleness in his responses, which says allot, many of the mods idolize him and therefore replicate his behaviours, this is what happens when anything that is organized by Humans, it eventually gets corrupted, there may have been good intentions, to share insights and revelations that one has had with others, that is great, but identity/ego will get entangled with it, then it goes off line and the original intention is not what is happening now, just be aware of it, use this place for what it is here for, then when not needed let it go...

The NDE where does it happen? Its happening within the person having the NDE, the ppl beside them or the doctors/nurses in the room if it is in that situation, they have no idea that the person on the table is having a NDE, so its all within You, it appears to be You going somewhere, that is the dream or maya, illusion appearing real, but its all within You, then they come back, tell their truth, which is only a story for You and Me..

That's why I posted that the creation of a "Place or Realm" called Heaven is one of the worst crimes, why because now You think there is another place better than here, but maybe this is heaven and Your making it a hell scape? Plus it indicates a separation of sorts, there is here then there, like there is now and then the past and future, but in reality there is only Now, there is Only Here, everything else is the dream or maya or made up things from your conditioned Mind, its Karma at play.. Play this game and You suffer for sure, realize the game and You live by Ease, at Peace naturally, make the choice!

Stallone, he's arguably inspired more ppl than anyone in history, via his main Character Rocky, but by his own life example, he literally came from a broken home, no confidence, learning disability, messed up mouth, and other problems to make himself into what he became and is today, not only an Actor, but Writer, Director, Producer, Inspirer and so forth, and still going strong in his 70's, he's not perfect but no one is, and his Rocky character portrays both the Masculine and Feminine aspects of nature as both Men and Women luv that Character.. Sadhguru of course, he's the total package, inspiring as well, but is beyond the psychological aspect of Life, he's the living example, will fail in his mission but fail Blissfully, this is the way in Life, which is an expression of Absolute so Absolute can know itself... Bruce Lee, he Literally made himself into the Martial Arts Icon he is known to be today, and his legacy has lived on for over 50yrs, ppl are still talking and researching and inspired by Bruce Lee, he was not born to be the way he ended up, with laser focus and determination he crafted his body, his mind and intellect, and used it to the max to create what he became, he's up there with Muhammed Ali and others in world popularity and respect, he had his demons though, but You wouldn't know it by looking at him, a pure genius on many levels!

Again this is half right.. There is a concept called Dharma, or cosmic order or will, this is what is allowing Nature as we know it to exist, there are laws in place, like Gravity is consistent, things don't fluctuate daily in weight otherwise life as we know it would not be able to exist, there are many other forces or dharma in place, its a will of sorts that You cannot control or deny, how we react/respond to it is our individual Will, this is why Life is here, so we can explore this Will and Freedom, so as surfers ride the waves in the ocean, we can ride this Dharma and see where it takes us, the basics of it is do we Suffer thru this Dharma or are Blissed out thru this Dharma, the choice is ours to make...

Maybe Your right, we will see, I cannot say 100% what will happen, but its not just via Wars that we can annihilate ourselves, climate, soil is bad, ppl's addictions are bad, mental health is getting worse, and there are many many others things going on that can annihilate this world, so it is not just by War.. This time is and is not the best of times, it depends and is relative for sure, for some this is the best of times, for others it is not, this has always been so, but again because of technology and maybe AI, things are drastically changing fast, not enough time for most to catch up... We'll see...

Agreed, I estimate the same, in about a few thousand Years we will evolve past this super Egoic stage that has been around since day one, but will we make it that far, that is the question, I don't know, but with the power of todays tech we cannot wait for thousands of years.. Years in the past it was just simple weapons and localized areas, which meant I would be oblivious to what was happening in the middle east wars living here in Canada, it would not and cannot affect me, but today it can, so that is the problem, we don't have the time to evolve as slow as we used to with the power that is available at hand, not just via countries at war, but individuals can destroy other lives from far away distances, so now the most important Action and Doing that has to take place is the rising of Human Consciousness, the biggest problems are Human problems/challenges, if we were to all disappear today, the Earth would be fine, but since we are becoming more populated and still super Unconscious and Egoic, it can destroy us faster than normal evolution, and the technology and know how to raise Human Consciousness is more available now than ever, we just have to choose IT!!

Please Leo, other Mods, OBEler is harassing Me, giving out warning points, please investigate!

Struggle, as is Suffering is a choice, you can say that the Survival aspect of Life, the DOING aspect of Life is challenging at times because these things require not just Your actions being correct and inline with perfection and God/Absolute, also the others have to be inline and such... As an example, I live in a 5 million+ city, everyone here has plans, they go out to achieve and succeed in their plans for the day, but if 5 million ppl are going this simultaneously in a small area like a city, then what is the result? Conflict and Chaos, because sooner or later the plans that ppl have conflict with each other, I want to go to the park, so do 5K other ppl, it only has 300 parking spots, what happens?? Chaos of course... Replace the word Struggle, and use Challenges, these situations are Challenging Your Spiritual resolve, do I accept the Inevitability of Chaos within myself, if I do what happens, I have no stress response, more clarity, intelligence and resourcefulness rises up, this leads to less chaos for Me personally and more clarity and harmony in my Experience. So Struggle/Suffering is Unconsciousness at play, One is living life by Accident, not on purpose, so if You switch to doing it Consciously, then You have no Suffering/Struggle, life opens up, and now it is just a game, You play it by the rules set up but go untouched by it, Your still Peaceful of Your own nature, life is at Ease (not easy but at Ease), and You make of it what You choose to make of it, not by accident!

Don't have to try, its clear as day, just see the OP, he's tried and says it clearly... Just pointing out to You how Biased blinds You, as in my reply post to OP, I did not say I am against psychedelics, that I am against the timing of it is incorrect for most, at least in my research, ppl can do it for sure, they can do whatever they want its a free country and world for the most part, its just I see a pattern of sorts, and it comes forth all the time, long users saying after doing it and then doing natural practices there is a big difference, but You don't see that in my post, as well I mention that I am wanting to try them myself when the time is right, so how am I against it??? I claim no expertise in it, just observation and sharing, which is what forum are all about correct? Also see You reply above, grammar errors as well, funny how You mention that since this has nothing to do with topic???

What is ridiculous is that You do not know Me one bit, all of what You say in regards to my post is completely Biased, its not based on Reality, just on what YOU think reality is and what it should be.. As I do not really know what You are about, only what You post here, which could be totally opposite of what You are, its the same with Me or anyone, You don't know me, or anyone, only Yourself and Your outlook, the question is is it via a Clear vision or perception of reality, I think it is not but I could be totally wrong, but I am absolutely right when saying You know nothing about my outlook, experiences or anything significant about what I am or not! Please quit harassing Me!!! I've reported You post!