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He probably was a frog in some life span. Our lifespan here is just a speck compared to the lifespan of the Earth or the Universe, so in that perpective, he was a frog 5 min ago, we all were probably, and a plant, a insect, a piece of dirt, and so on.. Here Neil Tyson Degrasse talks about our DNA, I remember he had a show on awhile back about Science, in one of them He mentioned that we have common DNA traits with all sorts of life forms, here he talks about our common DNA sharing with Bananas and Mushrooms, too me this sort of proves reincarnation and how it manifests in physical form, it shows there is an evolution to what we are, and how we came to be what we are today.. Potential is common on all life forms, but when in our perception and relation to time, it seems slow but overall its a fast process that has taken us from simple life forms to our Human ones today, from what I understand we cannot evolve much further on the Physical and Mental aspects but we can on other aspects of what we are, I assume that means Spiritually we can evolve much further than where we are Now!!

Remember there is no Absolute Meaning in any action or creation, everything is Relative in a sense, Your Meaning, what means something to You, means nothing to someone else and so forth, just like there is no absolute right or wrong, good or bad, it all depends on relativity and perception and such... Absolute is the way it is because it holds all Potentials and Possibilities.. The things You mention, they happen in all life forms, but only we Humans have choice, we don't have to kill unnecessarily, we have to kill to eat and survive, but we don't have to kill for the sake of killing, same with destruction and all the other dis empowering actions we take all the time, we have choice we just haven't decided yet to do more Empowering actions than Dis Empowering ones.. This is all reliant on how Conscious we are as a Species overall, its obvious we are not overall very conscious, once we raise the level of Consciousness in most ppl, then things will Transform.. To Be Conscious means Your intouch with Truth and Reality, which means Your Experience of Life is All Inclusive, You feel a great sense of Oneness, Connection and Bliss, and You see Reality for what it is, not what You want it too be or what You heard it should be like...

@Princess Arabia We Humans are given basically Free Rein here to do or be what we want to be, of course there are limits due to the Body and Mind, but if You want to be Healthy, You can be no matter what, we can control genes, dreams, experiences and know most everything we need to know about ourselves and the universe if we strive enough, that is the power of being Human.. Today we are completely brainwashed by our societies, the power players that want to keep us Down, and slaves basically, so they portray us as weak, needy, and the life is outside of Us, its not, until one realizes this as a basic thing nothing in their life will change!

@Princess Arabia I don't know if You've ever read the book "Ageless Body, Timeless Mind" by Deepak Chopra, its one of his first books, like from the 80's or 90's, its one of the first books that got me onto Spirituality, in it there is a study he references, where they took some senior citizens, all of them had some sort of medical conditions, they did a bunch of tests on them to set a baseline, then they put them in an isolated environment, where they set everything up like it was from the 1950, architecture, music, pictures, and all sorts of factors, they let them live there for a couple of weeks, then they retested them and found that they all de aged allot, I can't remember by how much but it was significant, so the Mind and Perception and how we Experience it within ourselves is super powerful, some may call this a belief of sorts, but it can make great changes in all aspects of what You call Yourself, and transform Yourself into whatever it is You want to Be!

There's the basic 4, the ones you mention above and the Turiya or high conscious state. The whole point of Spiritual Sadhana and paths is too get to this Turiya state on a consistent basis.. We are Embodied Beings, that means we have a Body/Mind complex, and high Potentials in that, more so than any other life on this planet, and we have to strive for it, like learning ABC or 123, the potential is there always for everyone, but they have to go to school and learn it, that is striving, samething here, if You don't strive for it, then it won't happen Generally, You'll stay only in the cycle of Wake, Draming and Deep Sleep, which is Survival level of Living.. We are basically here to allow Absolute/Existence to experience itself, we are the pawns!

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"If You pay enough attention to Existence You become WORDLESS" - SJV

Yes, BEING is when Your Intouch with Who You Are, Intellect is when You using outside sources for information, how to believe it? You can completely know if Your BEINGNESS is established, all that there is too know You can know this way. With Intellect You will never know because whatever someone tells You something, it may be Truth for them, but its a story for You or anyone listening, until something becomes a personal experience for You, its all stories or theories, or philosophies, they may be good in the beginning but are not the complete way to really know Life totally!

You offered Money and brought this aspect Up, I'm just taking You for You Word!

Goraknath’s fierce love for his guru, Matsyendranath, drove him beyond all discipline on many occasions. Seeing that his disciple had the capability to change the world if only he could channelize his intensity, Matsyendranath constantly tempered it. Here is one such incident.

The Ego is just a survival tool, its neither good or bad, it just being unconscious too it is bad in a sense.. The Ego comes to give one a sense of Individuality, if You had no sense of Individuality you wouldn't survive very long and our species would not have lived long at all, since we are so weak in the natural world, so Ego gives a sense of Individuality and hence the feeling of insecurity and aloneness, which provides one with a great need and instinct to Survive another day, combine that with our vastly superior Intellect, and we go from Cave Man to dominating the Planet and maybe outside this planet. Today with all our tech and survival knowing, we can subdue the ego big time, but we don't it just switched its attention to other pursuits that involve gathering as well, fame, success, power, control, etc,.. its a false sense of individual self, which can be transcended to a higher sense of Self which is All Inclusive..

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This was part of his master plan, his death made him that much more famous and thus spread his teachings and sharing's, simple strategy:)

Go to the "Leo Gura, Suffering and Awakening' Thread, see the different perspectives.. Each perspective written is what the person understands and/or experiences as Truth or Potential, its varied, so that means there are varying Potentials present, when one buys into it that is their truth... There's threads like these on a daily and weekly basis.. Will send You a DM with bank account info... Oh yeah, You will come back with a discrediting reply based on Your Perspective, that is another Potential, for that I ask for another $1000 on top of the original offered:)

That is one way of looking at it, a certain Potential, there are other ways and potentials of looking at it, choose for Yourself what Potential to allow to arise within You! If You say something is impossible for You to do or have, then that is Truth for You, others may say that it is possible, for them that is their Truth. Choice makes all the difference.

Yes, which is why its key not too identify with opinion, belief, draw conclusions and discuss too much these topics, it will eventually lead to egoic mind entering the situations and conflict! What I said above is not an opinion, its proven, as can be seen on this forum!

Don't Believe anything, Don't Disbelieve anything, find out, in the case of Death we will all find out one day! Until then they say one can find out while Embodied and Living as we are now, so I explore that, I don't know actually what happens after the body dies...

Well all of us are full of Potential, by choosing to be Happy naturally, I am choosing a certain Potential that may lead to other Potentials. In my Experience, suffering emotions like anger, sadness, anxiousness/depression (have experienced them all) are not empowering for Me, they lead me to less Potential being exposed in my Experience, but others are able to choose what Potentials are experienced, if they want the suffering ones so be it! For Me I want Joyful Experiences, as I said to Princess Arabia on another thread, with Bliss/Joy as Your Natural Experience the Road to higher Potentials is smoother, with Suffering the road is bumpier, I prefer smoother roads:) Plus Suffering Emotions are unhealthy for the Body and Mind, causes more problems to arise that have to be dealt with, I know no one that wants to consciously feel sad, angry, depressed or anxious...

Each perspective on any subject is just a Potential, we can choose what Potentials we want in our lives. We are here to explore and or choose Potentials I've Realized.

Both are Intensity via the Emotions, but one is not healthy for the Body or Mind and the other is, on that level it is relevant!

The problem is that this all becomes a function of the Mind and Concepts and Intellectual Understanding, and the Ego needs concrete stability to feel safe.. Intellectually You will not Understand everything and anything, As Yimpa says, there is Mental Instability and Dysfunction, I wouldn't label this as "Truth" more of a Potential, does that mean I have to experience it to live a total and complete life? No I don't, so all of this sort of thing is calculation and survival level of Living and Awareness.. Just try not to think about stuff so much, take care of Your Basic needs, be Happy and Healthy naturally as possible, Accept things as they are, Live Now, this alone will cease the Stress response from happening generally, then Peace becomes Your natural state of Being, establish BEINGNESS above all first and foremost, then go out and DO or HAVE,.,then see how life is for You!

Too much talking about any subject will just put You further away from it..I used to talk like crazy about Wing Chun and Martial Arts, then after a few years, the same old arguments, the same ppl pushing the same theories, it just becomes a Circle Jerk, nothing means anything, broken record BS, the only thing is if nothing changes history repeats itself, now that I know of the theory of Karma, it is Karma in real time... I won't participate in that, at least I've come that far...

Yes Yes!!

Just trying to help that is all really? We all live here, might as well help in a way that is pleasant than unpleasant right?

Of course, which is good that we can:) But he says he knows, is in the experience of Absolute and all these things, then why be a slave to what I say or believe or follow? Why feel Anger? Is that healthy?