Ishanga

Go to the "Leo Gura, Suffering and Awakening' Thread, see the different perspectives.. Each perspective written is what the person understands and/or experiences as Truth or Potential, its varied, so that means there are varying Potentials present, when one buys into it that is their truth... There's threads like these on a daily and weekly basis.. Will send You a DM with bank account info... Oh yeah, You will come back with a discrediting reply based on Your Perspective, that is another Potential, for that I ask for another $1000 on top of the original offered:)

That is one way of looking at it, a certain Potential, there are other ways and potentials of looking at it, choose for Yourself what Potential to allow to arise within You! If You say something is impossible for You to do or have, then that is Truth for You, others may say that it is possible, for them that is their Truth. Choice makes all the difference.

Yes, which is why its key not too identify with opinion, belief, draw conclusions and discuss too much these topics, it will eventually lead to egoic mind entering the situations and conflict! What I said above is not an opinion, its proven, as can be seen on this forum!

Don't Believe anything, Don't Disbelieve anything, find out, in the case of Death we will all find out one day! Until then they say one can find out while Embodied and Living as we are now, so I explore that, I don't know actually what happens after the body dies...

Well all of us are full of Potential, by choosing to be Happy naturally, I am choosing a certain Potential that may lead to other Potentials. In my Experience, suffering emotions like anger, sadness, anxiousness/depression (have experienced them all) are not empowering for Me, they lead me to less Potential being exposed in my Experience, but others are able to choose what Potentials are experienced, if they want the suffering ones so be it! For Me I want Joyful Experiences, as I said to Princess Arabia on another thread, with Bliss/Joy as Your Natural Experience the Road to higher Potentials is smoother, with Suffering the road is bumpier, I prefer smoother roads:) Plus Suffering Emotions are unhealthy for the Body and Mind, causes more problems to arise that have to be dealt with, I know no one that wants to consciously feel sad, angry, depressed or anxious...

Each perspective on any subject is just a Potential, we can choose what Potentials we want in our lives. We are here to explore and or choose Potentials I've Realized.

Both are Intensity via the Emotions, but one is not healthy for the Body or Mind and the other is, on that level it is relevant!

The problem is that this all becomes a function of the Mind and Concepts and Intellectual Understanding, and the Ego needs concrete stability to feel safe.. Intellectually You will not Understand everything and anything, As Yimpa says, there is Mental Instability and Dysfunction, I wouldn't label this as "Truth" more of a Potential, does that mean I have to experience it to live a total and complete life? No I don't, so all of this sort of thing is calculation and survival level of Living and Awareness.. Just try not to think about stuff so much, take care of Your Basic needs, be Happy and Healthy naturally as possible, Accept things as they are, Live Now, this alone will cease the Stress response from happening generally, then Peace becomes Your natural state of Being, establish BEINGNESS above all first and foremost, then go out and DO or HAVE,.,then see how life is for You!

Too much talking about any subject will just put You further away from it..I used to talk like crazy about Wing Chun and Martial Arts, then after a few years, the same old arguments, the same ppl pushing the same theories, it just becomes a Circle Jerk, nothing means anything, broken record BS, the only thing is if nothing changes history repeats itself, now that I know of the theory of Karma, it is Karma in real time... I won't participate in that, at least I've come that far...

Yes Yes!!

Just trying to help that is all really? We all live here, might as well help in a way that is pleasant than unpleasant right?

Of course, which is good that we can:) But he says he knows, is in the experience of Absolute and all these things, then why be a slave to what I say or believe or follow? Why feel Anger? Is that healthy?

Ask Yourself Why? Self Inquiry, why would anything I say to You, or believe in, or follow make You angry? Its just a forum, with ppl posting questions and answers, why does it bother You... I thought You were the One that Knew, are in the Knowing, based on posting stats and the amount of sharing you do here, with what seems like authentic knowledge?? Its not about Me, its about You!

@Breakingthewall I recommend You take a break from the forum, Your writtings are in circles and it will drive You nuts trying to think this all the time, and figure it out or not figure it out or know it or not know it and all this intellectual stuff, just do what You do to put Yourself in what You consider Good! Peace...

Yes, that is why I say what we see Sadhguru and others doing online via Youtube, Books written and such is not what they are, it is not "Spirituality", it is promotion, which is needed, but the real thing is personal and transformative...

Its all a Potential, we can be absolutely Savage to one another and other life, or the opposite, completely Compassionate and Giving and Loving, so its all Possible right! What is this about? Choice, we can choose how to be if all this Potential is available, which is about Free Will, I can choose to be Savage or Compassionate/Loving towards all Life correct? Make the Choice the resonates with Empowering Life and all will be well, choose the other and see what happens (life as it is on this earth today!)

Late October 2024 sharing by Sadhguru on the Yogic city progress going on at iii ashram in Tennessee,,,

Sounds Good!

Yes, the practice for death is everynight when we go to sleep, trying to be aware (not mental alertness) of when the switch from wakefulness and deep sleep happens, if You can do that, then when death happens and your aware of that transition, it helps You on the other side... I think he means in normal situations, not in accident or torture or during war like extreme life situations, those are different, just hope it goes by fast..

Purpose, Meaning all come from Mind, which is Survival based, if You didn't have a survival based Mind, you/we would not survive very long, so its a build in mechanism, its served us well to get where we are, but its becoming our Master, and its very distorted now, with ppl on their phones 10hrs a day, just scrolling, it dulls it makes it less sharp, almost useless... We are so obsessed with DOING, that BEING is forgotten, its in those inbtwn moments that we are BEING, just here, just now, no meaning, no purpose, no goals, just BEING, once You get this as an Intense Experience, it should give You Joy, then your almost there.

@Breakingthewall What I've learned is that whatever anyone says here is just a Potential, its legit and varied and possible, truth is just about the Potential, one can say and believe as You believe, that is okay, I can differ in what I believe and understand, that is okay, its all Potential.. What is not okay is too have a concrete conclusion, then Your stuck, limited, boxed in, "I know now", as Javfly said, once You think You know, then its over, no more ability to grow, potential stops..

I would say that the Ground upon which Existence as we know it here on this Earth was set up perfectly, we are in a unique place, as far as we know this is the only place that existence is as varied and as it is in the entire universe, so its set up perfectly for Us to florish, but we have choice, so that is the only thing not absolutely perfect because suffering exists on extreme levels.. Just the other day in my city a Tesla with 5 ppl in it got in a car crash, the driver was driving too fast, hit a guardrail, the car went on fire, one person was pulled out, they heard screams from the car, the other 4 burnt alive now dead..is that perfect? IF so how so? https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/10/24/four-dead-electric-vehicle-crash-toronto/

Yes, but there is this thing we call "Process" its in that process that Absolute experiences itself, without a process, or duality or form, then no Absolute knowing/experiencing itself, that is why we are here.. the process is as important as the Absolute, don't deny it or look down on it, as it is needed..

This is why we are all here, and all other life Forms, but Form is not Infinity, its a part of it, there is no Experience in Infinity/Absolute, but there is here in the Form Realm, so since we are the most capable of all Life here, then we can grasp an Aspect of Infinity/Absolute via Experience, but knowing it won't happen, that is for sure limited, but not Experientially, and we all do in our own Unique way, which is beautiful too, without duality/uniqueness Absolute would not be able to Experience itself!