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Sadhguru has a huge ashram in India and in Tennessee, he's building a Yogic city there too...Plus there are other Guru's that have well established Ashrams in India, do some searching then plan to go there and check it out, I hope to do that someday as well...

Your starting to post hypocritical things, so I'm calling You out on it that is all, we have too much of this stuff going on here and other places.. People are allowed to say what they want, but they should expect push back at times, that's only fair..

I don't know about Guru Ravi situation, with Sadhguru it is a very high quality path, and we need Guru's. Its not about putting them on pedestals, Sadhguru says many times to never look up or down on anyone, just see them for what they are now, but many fail at this, their prejudice does not allow them to do this, but they should do this, just see Guru's as a tool, be devoted to them for sure, as they are special relationships, not normal one.. One does not need a Guru but if they do it on their own it may take many lifetimes, with a Guru it will happen within this lifetime...

Your contradicting Yourself again, first You say one cannot know the path, that one has to walk it alone, then You offer help, which is basically You offering a path. The path is not about the consequence, its to set up the consequence to happen naturally, like planting flowers, nothing You are doing to produce the flower has anything directly to do with a flower, but from the work (path) the flower appears. Paths just offer to a person a faster route, the old saying of using another experience to become wise is true, of course each person has a unique experience and sort of path, but using others experience is wise, with Spirituality this is very true, without Guru's there would be that much less Transformation in the world, they help immensely!!!!

What Your saying most of the time is mumbo jumbo, "There are no questions", but Your using a keyboard of some kind to ask and reply to questions.. "There is no one here", but YOU are replying to many one's here via the posts they write, the questions they ask and so forth, so its mumbo jumbo hypocritical responses coming from You, no point in posting or replying if no one is here right lol... looney bin sort of stuff...just saying, sometimes someone has to tell another what their doing...

I'm sorry but your post lately are mumbo jumbo, You shouldn't be here posting...It does no good posting/writing what You write and ppl reading it..which is what is actually happening here.. what Your experiencing and understand things may be something totally different but its not coming thru your posts in anyway..

You have a huge perspective lol, You state it everyday here.. What You state is that there is no You and Love is everything...

I don't think I meant to imply that You are making this up, You asked for suggestions, I just gave You some...Acceptance is just a starting point, it is resistance to what is that causes lots of stress and stops all progress on the spiritual path imo...

What we see on Utube, various Guru's talking and such, this has nothing to do with Spirituality, Truth and Reality, its just marketing, playing circus, they have to do that today to get ppl to listen and be inspired or thrown back, otherwise how to get ppl on the Spiritual path, just sit there and wait for students to come? That may work on a small scale, some want to do bigger things, that is their freedom, Guru's are definitely needed today, no doubt about it, but we need less ppl that are not real Guru's or Teachers talking and sharing videos about things they barely know anything about, sharing experiences is okay, teaching others how to do it as well is not...

This really isn't the fault of the Guru, a true one anyways, many followers or whatever are fake, in that they display the typical I am a devotee, praising and kissing the Guru's feet, but when the Guru is not around they treat ppl and others like shit, so its fake, there are fake Guru's and fake followers.. For any learning to happen, a certain type of Faith has to be there, in martial arts, although I never actually saw my Teachers fight, I knew they could fight and they had Skill sets I wanted to have as well, so I trained/followed them and learned, its the same here, no one actually knows what the State of Being is of another, but if it empowers them on a True Level of Empowerment (being fake is not true) then they must Follow the Guru's instructions for real and not Guru/Teacher shop, nothing empowering will happen when that is one's mindset...

Don't fall into the trap of "I am not the one typing these words" or there is no one making decisions and things of that nature.. To be Human means You have the most ability to be in control of the only thing that matters, that is how You are Experiencing Life right now, so now You have noticed some suffering appearing, its probably unconscious things becoming Conscious, this is good in a way.. To be on the Spiritual Path means Life is going to be on fast forward, your going to burn thru Your Karma more quickly than others because You want to be Free from it all within this life span, not many.. So things will start to come up, that may some how disturb You, that's okay, Accept it all, knowing and unknowing, as this is what is happening, it was inevitable that it happened, if You dwell on it and suffering arises from it, more Karma is being developed and needs to be dealt with. The safest path is the Bliss Path, in Bliss You don't care about what is unconscious to You coming up in Your Consciousness, Your Blissed Out naturally.. So work on that, get Peaceful of Your own nature first, Accept what is, Live Now, Respond to Now Consciously, do some Energy Work, Kriya work, get the Energies working in the right direction and more in Your Awareness, this will bring Peace to You naturally, then it smooths things out, Your at Ease Naturally, then Life opens up and You can handle it easy..

When Somebody Dies We Say - "He Is No More" That Is Not True! | Death | Sadhguru |

Well I've shared the 5 sheaths Yogic Theory with You, I don't believe or disbelieve it, its just there along with all the other things said, written and shared before.. All I know is that I am not this Body or Mind, then the natural curiosity of "Then what am I" (Using "I" is a misnomer of the language, there is no I in Absolute or Atman/Brahman) and it leads us on to something else discovered or learned, so layers of Maya are present, karma too, and we go further down this path, even thought its not a path to know One's self is One/Absolute/Atman in reality as You say its already there! The Key for Us Humans is Realization I've discovered..

Well at least You recognize there are "Levels" and I agree, but on this level we are in with a Body and Mind and Maya (Maya is illusion, illusion means something exists but not as You presently think it does, eg the Table is solid, but in its deepest essence it is not!) Appearance is a replacement word for this sort of reality with duality, karma, body/mind complex and matrix... Its a real as we want to make it...

I would have to disagree here... We are here to explore this Potential called "Choice", and we have Choice in the deepest ways possible, its been said that we can even choose the womb we are born into, I am not saying I believe this or disbelieve this, but its been stated, so there is an entity, a unique sort of Being, made from all the same stuff to explore this sort of Reality which is an Expression of Ultimate Potential which is also known as Absolute..

Yes starting points, we have to start where we are at right now...There are layers upon layers to this stuff, start tiny steps and see where it takes one...

Enlightenment is Rare but we all have the capability equally for the most part, yes there are those that are disabled in many areas and its not there for them, but for most we are all capable, But we live like cave men mentally and Awareness wise, still gathering, still searching outside ourselves, just different ways of doing it and the objects have changed, not fire we gather anymore we gather shit, and thoughts and ideologies...

I think in the end game we are all saying the same things really. Life is both simple and complex, layers again, and yes either being present or past/future, that is a choice, but the choice is hidden or not recognized and that is where the work is.. You talk about Mind allot, which is Good! Mind is beyond thoughts and thinking and this stuff, this stuff is society garbage feed, you have no choice of the content of it, and the capability to have this sort of Mind is Awesome, but if it is in control which it is for most ppl then that is where the problem, same with Ego or anything else, so the work is not in the realm of Absolute, Truth of Reality as we all see it which is similar, its recognizing it, which is Conscious Awareness and that is where the work/Sadhana and what all the Guru's are here to help with... Freedom is the end of suffering because Freedom means Choice, Suffering is Human created, no other life form Suffers, they feel pain I would assume since I cannot remember being a Flower or Animal, but only We Suffer, again this convo about Suffering vs Pain will come up, Pain is healthy and needed for Body/Form Survival, its like traffic lights, Suffering is not needed, so Freedom for Us Humans is choice, if You want to Suffer (I don't understand why when you have the choice available to You) You can or be Blissed Out if that is Your Choice. Now Ultimate Freedom is none of this, is back to the Absolute Realm, no Body or Mind or this or that to contend with...That is the what Moksha/LIberation is all about!

Here Sadhguru talks about Potential but allowing it too happen at the level of Your Responsibilities, for some being a Brahmacharya is appropriate as to be a Brahmacharya means You are on Self Start, Your Experience is Your Making, be it Joy or Depression, you choose, and this is the fastest way to the Divine, the other ways are dependent on social responsibility, and that is okay too.,. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q1MoHsT2k

Anything You ingest does not really produce the effect You feel, it rather just brings forth the Potential that is always within Us, nothing ingested can make you feel something that is not already possible to feel, you can't feel something impossible to feel... Its like when I was training and teaching in Martial Arts for 30yrs, I came to the Realization that the training at whatever art that is practiced is not really teaching You anything, it is just making You realize a certain Potential within You. There are 1000 ways to throw a punch, that are somewhat unique to one another, you learn a particular way of doing it (via certain body structures and body mechanics) then that potential is exposed within You, and express by You, that is the same with smoking weed, snorting a line of coke, or taking a hit of 5meodmt, when it comes within the boundary of Your Body, where all Experience happens, then it bring about a Certain Potential Experience that was already there but waiting to be exposed.. Now the key is if that Potential is always there, can I expose it naturally via my own Free Will? Yes of course, You can manifest any Experience You want under Your own free Will, just work at it, and then decided do I want a 5meo experience right now or a normal waking state experience right now, or Bliss/Depression Experience right now...

yes I agree on that point, its just words, we are not really talking about Truth, because it can't be talked about only experienced, but someone someday in need may come upon this place and on their present level of awareness may need to read the right words and it inspires them, plus I'm living in this world having to deal with all this unconsciousness and unenlightenement going on, its it sucks, daily having to deal with it, at least I've had some awakenings and done some work towards more Empowerment! I do wonder though if words mean nothing then why all the writing we do?? You even have your own journal on here sharing daily events and such, why if words mean nothing? And if there is a why, it must have meaning, then meaning means something so there it starts again, the circle of life playing out its game, you see??

Yes for sure agreed! Too many books, too much sharing has warped ppl into boxes again..,. There are no Enlightened/Realized ppl here, if they were that they would not be here for sure lol...just intellectual book learners for the most part, and some that have had grand experiences via pyschedelics but don't have the ground work to let it integrate and become what is really them, so it is a false knowing in a way, it can only inspire one to eventually do the real work or Sadhana and let the layers fall by the side until a real Realization happens!! This is the problem when too many have shared, made videos, books written and read, we think this is progress but actually it causes much more confusion and leads away from Truth and Reality, we don't need every tom dick and harry telling us non duality is and what it takes to get there because they smoked a joint and had an experience... That's why I share Sadhguru so much, he's living the Experience and here in this dual material karmic world, living it out in real time but playing the game Blissfully, not suffering it like Leo does, but all claim he's the real deal because of intellectual insights (Intellect and Mind are very powerful tools, but not the end of our Potential by any means!) but still suffers, this makes no sense why ppl would follow such a person..

This place is all about Mind, I come and go here, but we have minds and have to deal with it, You post and I post and everyone is still posting, and sharing it has its place, nothing wrong or good about it, its just there, space recognition is primary in this matter, it stops the identification with Mind and its monkey business...

Recognition only happens when space is there, if Your in it You cannot recognize it, only when space is there then there is recognition, now some have it more naturally but its just the beginning, The rotten eggs is just a matter of spitting it out, being in a war zone bombed everyday due to unconscious leaders hating one another over land ownership and BS like that is not a matter of spitting it out, the example is not relative enough, rotten eggs is not suffering, that is a tiny pain... I am not saying I am living in a war zone, but there are extremes (rotten eggs to war zone), I live inbetween, there is the saying that most people are living lives of quiet Desperation, that is immense suffering, and I know of it, I live it, my Mind suffers it daily but I have a space/recognition of this Mind so I can crack a joke in the middle of it with a complete stranger and wish them a Great Day at the sametime, and go on in life knowing there is more to it than quiet desperation!

How Forms where created and can be used by Us to Realize Truth of Reality and Absolute/Highest Potential!