Ishanga

I don't understand ppl that buy into this sort of dogma, do it on Your own, like Your an Independent Island.. No one that has been successful at anything has done it on their own, they always had help. Its no different in Spirituality.. When I was training in Martial Arts (30+yrs ago) I couldn't have developed the skills I did without a Sifu or Coach, and this lesson was repeated over and over again, when I went to a new Instructor, it was very apparent that I could not have learned the skill set properly without their help, no possible way!! Its possible to go all the way in Spirituality without a Guru or Teacher, but its highly unlikely to happen for the General Public, they need direction and instruction and guidance for sure, so telling ppl to go at it on their own, like there is an unique sort of Truth that is just for them is Bad Advice imo!!

I do think because being intouch with Truth is associated with Bliss or "Heaven" that ppl do search for it and go on the Spiritual Path, there's no denying that, but I think that its true, if Your intouch with Truth You will be Blissful..

Also, Bliss is not the Goal, but with Bliss You smooth out the path to Enlightenment and Truth, so if Your naturally Blissful Your path to Enlightenment is most guaranteed and easier, and Sadhguru says this as well, he also said even Bliss can get boring and used to, so don't get caught up in things like that, if Your intensity to know and be intouch with Truth is there, You'll not be denied it...

he's a complete hippy eh:) lol

Well I think in a basic way, establishing a baseline of Joy as Your natural Experience will enhance everything else about You, Your Creativity, Intellect/Intelligence, Health, Well Being will rise because Your stress free, resistance free, able to go full stride ahead without Fear... Goals and Ambition is just an expression of Desire, Desire is the same as Life, it always wants more, so for Us Desire is there to propel us forward, ultimately we want complete Boundlessness, Freedom, but we get there in small steps, first we survive, then we want more of this or that, then we establish more control, then we forget about control and go for Power, then we forget about Power and go for all Knowing, then we forget that and go all the way, forget this life of wanting and needing and just BE in the Moment Fully Alive and Present!

Yes, its inline with the 8 limb Yoga method, he has just modernized it and made it more available to today's ppl, he also made the Shambhavi siddhi free, so I guess it was there before but energetically he did something to it, so he works on that Level allot, he's a chakrawara or something like that they say, Master of the Energy/Chakras, he must be if he can consecrate temples and create the Dylanalinga...

So right now Your not intouch with Your BEING, your into Doing and Having (pick up is Doing, the Girl is Having) your only doing this to have a certain Experience right? If not then why do Pick Up, why have a Girl?? Apply this to anything, why have a career, or life purpose? Why have Money, or Success, or a Nice Car, or Travel to a Nice place You want to see? Whatever it is, it is to have a Grander Experience than You are right now.. What if You had an Experience of Completeness, Bliss, Clarity of Reality, would You still do Pick Up? BEINGNESS is just this, Experiencing Completeness, Bliss, Clarity, at least on a small level.. I started a Yoga practice, 12 min a day, look up Isha Kriya, try it for a month, see what happens...!

Mind: A Yogic Perspective – Sadhguru at MIT

I don't think Sadhguru is a "Good" Guru, he's just very effective that's all... This stuff about Good, Bad, don't like, like its all Ego, this place is full of Ego even though its supposed to be about Spirit which is beyond Ego..

He talks about functioning from an Existential POV, rather than from a Survival POV or Mind/Thoughts/Desires POV, so its about setting up the atmosphere, the ambiance within You so that flowering and Wellbeing/Enlightenment happen naturally, nothing will happen if the Energies are not intense enough and directed to the right places, and if the mind or wrong identifications are still in place then nothing will happen, same old life, work, sleep, have kids, get old, die, repeat cycle...

There is a Grand Intelligence of sorts, so complex we cannot understand it, everything was established at the moment of Creation, all Potential was established in that moment, its beyond belief and comprehension, but we Humans can be intouch with it, that is the point of our existence!

@PurpleTree I'm so glad I am not You, Your on my ignore list:)

This is something I discovered, its worked for me since discovering it! First BE then DO then HAVE, or BE then HAVE then DO What You and most ppl are doing is the opposite, they DO then HAVE then BE, or HAVE then DO then BE but they fail miserably in the Doing and Having part and never get to the BEING parts simply because they are suffering the Doing/Having part so much as You are. The end goal for every living Human Being is to realize their BEING. You only establish goals to become something You are not right now, so establishing Your BEING is just that, You want to make it so suffering is almost impossible, so that You at the least are naturally at Peace, no struggle or stress internally, You live at EASE, with this establish as a normal baseline Experience everyday, then You go out and perform Action to achieve some goal or get some stuff whatever it is..

You definitely have belief, maybe its unconscious to You, but we all do, that is part of the work or Sadhana to reveal all the beliefs and wipe them out so that we can see reality clearly, with belief You cannot perceive reality with Clarity!

I never said I believe it, nor did I say I disbelieve it, I don't know what happens after Bodily Death, probably someone does, but when they share it it becomes a story and then ppl either believe or disbelieve the story, so I don't do that, I think we will find out for ourselves and I think they may be a way while still alive to know these things as well, but I am not there yet, but if someone asks I will share what I have researched, its up to them to take it further than that..

What's happening now is that You read a story, an explanation, its conflicting with what You believe to be truth, so the ego will do what it must to protect the belief.. This is Intellect and Identity.. Your Intellect wraps around the Identity that is formed within us unconsciously, it will only involve itself with the identity that is there, that's it, so now one of the most effective tools we have available to us is shut off, this is why belief is blinding.. What Your doing is You ask a question, ppl only ask questions to seek answers.. I gave one, it contradicts what You believe so now the answer is just nothing, a simple story to be believed or not.. Why not do neither, don't believe what I wrote or disbelieve, find out for yourself..be curious enough to really investigate, rather than ask questions and receive answers Your ego doesn't want to hear then repeat cycle over and over again to get more trapped in belief systems.. just try something for once and see what happens..

You asked, I used an analogy to explain it... if you don't ask I won't answer.. All of what goes on here is just a story, its just stimulation for some ppl, it can only inspire or un inspire, chose how to interpret it...

Its much more than "Ego", the life we are is much more complex than that, You could have no identification with an Ego, and still feel incredible pain and suffering, since You just have a Body that feels and a Brain that interprets what is happening with this Body, nothing to do with Ego when it comes to physical pain and torture and suffering of this sort.. The other end of it is self made pain and suffering which is for sure Ego based... This self made pain/suffering is what is the biggest ailment in ppl's lives today, ppl today can suffer pretty well anything, being single or being married, having kids or no kids, education or no education, having Money or having no Money, just name the situation and ppl have suffered it, but they have realized their Potential and had Bliss via it as well, the choice of how to deal with it is up to each of Us!

No, if it had I would not be posting.. The Bubble bursting is Moksha or Liberation, no more cycle of birth/death/birth, or new bubble being created. From what I research most that reach Enlightenment Experience, some at the moment of body death, some strive for it via Yoga and other methods, they Dissolve and are Liberated, no more cycle either.. How this all happens I do not know, the Intelligence that allows the Potential and Possibility of the Absolute to be manifested here is responsible for that, I don't know how it functions or intimate details, but see my Sadhguru knowledge thread he certain has more insight to it than most!

Think of Life as the Dynamic version/potential of Absolute, it has Qualities, Dualities, Attributes, Atoms, Intelligence, Manifestation.. This Life is everywhere, in the animate and inanimate, as atoms are present everywhere right in manifestation.. Now think of Life like Air/O2, and You are a bubble, with the skin of the bubble encasing some Air within It. This Bubble/You has many capabilities, we can be Aware or UnAware, so right now most ppl think/identify that they are the skin of the bubble, but in reality they are mostly the AIR within the Bubble. Once You, via many methods or naturally for some, burst this Bubble, the AIR inside merges with the AIR in the atmosphere, hence there is no individual bubble, no individual identity, no expression or experience.. That is the goal of Spiritual Path or Yoga as the Science of how to do it..

@Someone here We are Embodied forms of Consciousness or Absolute, what that means is that we can Experience Absolute but it is not us absolutely, we still have to deal with this Body and Mind and Karma situation, but we can "Transcend" it Experientially. Pain as You describe in Your post, in a Hell Fire Burning up enternally, Pain is only felt in the Body via the Mind, as You as well said sooner or later on will pass out and then not feel it anymore, that means the Experience mechanism is turned off for Your mental survival in a way.. We Us Humans we have Free Will to decide if this place, this realm on this Dual Material Earth is a Heaven or Hell, as it is all an Internal Experience, and via that Experience consequences are set up, Karma is created and life goes on, the only choice is do You Experience it Joyfully or Miserably??

LIVE | Sadhguru Darshan | Isha Institute of Inner-sciences

In Union with Everything Living, its not a dream, You are alive, everyone here is Alive, we have separate Bodies, then the other life forms, we can be in Union with all of it, as all life comes from the same source...So Yoga is the Science of allowing again this Experience of Union to come into one's Experience, right now there are things blocking this experience, like identity, low intense energy, low awareness...

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