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Emotions constantly change because You are Unaware of what is triggering them, and Emotions trail Thoughts very closely, Emotions and just "Juicy" Thoughts... Happiness is not Limited, in fact the happier You are the more functional You are, everything about You improves when your happy, Intellect/Intelligence is enhanced, physical attributes are enhanced, focus is better. Ppl will say we need negative emotions and states to survive, I can see the logic in this, it helps to be angry in a way (this is due to intensity of state/emotion, anger brings You to a very high intense state) when fight/flight kicks in, but in fighting its better to be calm cool and collected than angry you function better, all great fighters are calm when fighting, not angry..Most ppl once again are unhappy because they are Unconscious in nature, of the 4 areas of action within You, Bodily, Mentally, Emotionally, and Energetically, are the 4 areas of action within You, how conscious are you of this every moment of everyday? Probably not very much, so in essence you/most of us are living by accident, by accident we get happy, not on purpose.. This has allot to do with our Free Will!

Anything can be justified or explained today using some form of logic, you/we do this to make our belief systems seem real, ego loves this, which is what You are doing, but I've asked over and over again if nothing is real then drop a brick on your foot and see what happens, none of You will do it, because first Your ego will say 'Why am I allowing someone else to tell me what to do", and deep down you know it will hurt. All You have is experience, subjective experience within this vessel we call a Body, without the body no ability to experience, its real, but not the fundamental of what You are, its as simple as that,,so pls before You answer drop the imaginary brick on your imaginary foot and see what happens..

The biggest gripe I have with ppl around here is this denial of Creation, and Absolutism its all or nothing.. Your using a material object to post and reply and participate in this forum, but Your denying the very thing Your doing and using, too insane for me lol!

Well there is lots of ways of expressing it, that is why I always say we are not able to directly discuss or use words in relation to Spirituality (which is the science of No Thing/Consciousness), but we can talk/discuss around it... Existence goes from Subtleness to Grossness, before Subtleness is Consciousness/No Thing, then creation, the smallest atomic particle or before that, then everything comes from that, Big Bang or whatever, then there is Us and life on this planet...What they call as Atman, is the individual soul or seed of this No Thing within all of Us, it is like the saying "A Drop of the Ocean is the Ocean itself", same applies with Atman, Brahamn or No Thing, its just we are individual bodies and minds with atman as our core nature and existence, we just have to realize it! My dreams are not as real as my everyday life, but they are real in a way..Everything in the end is Subjective, You only experience life within Yourself, in Deep Sleep you don't experience anything so in a way then there is no existence, that can be said to be true from a Subjective POV, but objectively we know that things still exist, but this is a mental construct of sorts or a paradox...

Once You identify with something You are not, then nothing will help You, no Guru or teaching will help, so that is the main problem with Humans today, as when you identify with something you are not, then the consciousness level is low... If You identify with Life itself, I am Life, then most all distortions of the Mind will disappear, you won't have a problem with the thinking mind or memory/imagination, stress or things of this nature, you will be a master of all your faculties no problem, as long as the identification with Life is absolute then none of that will problem you anymore!

The solution is not to "accept pain" as an intellectual process, trying to think it away..What You want to have is some space between what is You and what is not You, Body and Mind are not You both are accumulations, what is You was before this, when that space is established, You will feel the pain but not suffer it, or in other words it doesn't hurt as much as it should!

This has been around for thousands of years, its a simplification for sure, but the essence of it is true, but at the least your saying that there is a No Thing (Shiva= That which is Not or Brahman "Ultimate Reality"), which is non physical in nature, and that there is a "Thing" or physicality as well, with No Thing or what in the west they are calling Consciousness (in the grand sense, not individual consciousness or wakefulness)being our fundamental nature or essence... Now, how to experience this as a individual with a Body/Mind complex that identifies heavily with that complex, there are many ways to get there...Psychedelics are like a window, they allow You to take a looksee then bring You back to normal Awareness/Perception, the other ways allow You to over time stay there while being Embodied! As well why did creation happen, why did it go from NO THING, to Some Thing?

Don't read any Books, Don't take anyone's advice Okay! Look at this logically and you'll see for yourself what is the reality and what is not! This all comes down to wrong identification, most all of us are heavily identified (we include it as a part of ourselves, it is us, just like a finger or nose is) with our Intellect! Intellect is a survival tool, it allows You to compare (never compare yourself to others, never compare yourself with yourself, this is Ego), it gives you a basic intelligence that is centered around survival or accumulating more and more (this is Desire in Process, ultimately You want everything, to be Boundless, Totally Free, but because of strong identity with Mind and Body, both limited entities, you never can reach it via those two things, this causes you to suffer as you are, never satisfied, always comparing, etc), it functions off your memory and teachings you have picked up.. Intellect Divides and Separates, it dissects things so you can understand it better. What Your doing is judging Your self (are there two of you within you or One?, there is One within You), comparing yourself and its based on things You picked up via your culture, like social status, wealth status, physicality status, things like this, and when You judge yourself its Egoic in nature, so accepting Yourself, Loving Yourself, Respecting Yourself all of this is Egoic in nature, Ego is false self based on Beliefs, Conditioning, and is there for us to function within a Social Atmosphere, not when you are alone and don't need it.. So don't Identify with Ego, with Intellect, with Conditioning and Culture, create a space btwn what is You and what is not You, then You'll be at Ease!

Where did the labels "Family Members" and "Strangers" come from, how do You know about these labels? We were taught about them right? So all of this stuff, is taught to us, plus usually with Family Members you have a tribal sort of relationship, you see them much more in your life than strangers, so brain circuits are created that give You some sort of special feeling towards them vs Strangers. Plus the Brain is wired for survival and negativity more so than positive traits and outlooks, with strangers there is the unknown, so that in a way means danger... All of this is on the Intellectual and Egoic side of things, its needed on a certain level but in absolute terms it means nothing!

The Only time You have absolute Free Will is in your Ability to Respond. Situations in Your life will rise up, some planned some random, you have to have clarity of sight to navigate thru these situations with Ease, but situational problems/challenges always arise, how You Respond to these situations is totally up to You. Free Will is not about absolute control of anything, is about YOU!

Easy to say when your in a comfy room on a keyboard typing BS on a BS forum, ppl like You don't know anything about Spirituality, never mind some so called God!

Exactly definition of Nihilism, you just can't see it because there is nothing for You and You just hide behind a philosophy, super sad... Say that to this kids parents!

My Grandfather who was probably born in the early 1900's from Sweden never said anything like that too me, I think he thought things were pretty good. My Father who was born in the 20's for sure thought things were much better, he was in WW2, but after that things got better, the 60's,70's and 80's were the best years, things we much simpler and there was more opportunity and the culture was not as messed up as it is today. I was hyper active as a kid, today I would have been put on Redlin for sure, but back then they just watched my sugar intake and made sure I was being active outside playing as all the kids were doing, we would play for hours, today that doesn't happen, phone addiction!! and that is just one example, I can't imagine how bad its going to get in 10-15 yrs.. Just think, Trump is under how many indictments but he's the republican rep, and may just win, this is a simple eg of he consciousness level of the general public..things are getting worse not better! How the nuclear threat is as real as it ever was...

This is Good advice, I advocate that as well, for Inner Wellbeing and Happiness/Health on a Individual level, for sure you want to be able to go outside or anywhere and experience the Miracle of Life is, what is available and in a way perfection at our door step. This is all about our Inner Experience and Gratitude! But there is lots of shit happening too, and when you ask "Do I want to bring a Child into this world" you have to look as well at what is going on, all of it, never mind the Wars and Mental/Physical health situation which is poor generally, culturally the way things are going, in 15 yrs free speech will not exist in places where that is the foundation of Human Rights, culture wars, men going in women's washroom because they identify as a woman, etc.. Then there is this Climate problem, one should not just stop watching the news and ignore it if you want to have kids, in Canada we are not on track to our carbon targets, and even if we were, so what, we are a small contributor to the problem if China, India and other big countries don't take care of it, then what sort of world are we living in.. Overpopulation, even though in lots of places the birth rate is down, we will have more ppl on this planet in 10yrs than we do now, and we have used up more than half the resources the planet has, if every person on the planet lived like the avg American we would need 4 planets to supply it, so we are basically screwed there, the only solution is to not be a consumer based economy anymore immediately and that won't happen! So does anyone with any sort of level of Consciousness want to bring a child into this? I for sure don't and its sad in a way!

You What are some key teachings of Sadhguru? Copilot Sadhguru, the enlightened yogi and mystic from India, imparts profound wisdom through his teachings. Here are some of his key insights: “The personality is like a smell, the stronger the personality, the stronger the stench.” Sadhguru emphasizes that our ego-driven personalities can hinder our growth and inner transformation1. “Don’t try and fix the fruit, fix the root.” Instead of merely addressing surface-level issues, Sadhguru encourages us to delve deeper and address the underlying causes of our challenges1. “If you try to live that which is past, that which IS will bypass you.” Dwelling on the past prevents us from fully experiencing the present moment. Sadhguru advocates for living in the now and embracing life as it unfolds1. “Tomorrow” is the deepest cunning of your mind." Our minds often create illusions about the future, causing unnecessary anxiety. Sadhguru reminds us to focus on the present and not get entangled in imaginary scenarios1. Kill the lies: Sadhguru encourages us to identify unnecessary aspects of our lives and let go of them. By eliminating falsehoods, we can experience greater clarity and authenticity2. Inner Engineering: One of Sadhguru’s key teachings is “Inner Engineering”, a technology for well-being derived from ancient yogic sciences. It emphasizes practices like meditation and yoga to explore our inner selves3. Spiritual Exploration: Sadhguru believes that spirituality and science need not be separate. He sees people as “spiritual beings dabbling with the material rather than the reverse.” Liberation, according to him, is the fundamental longing in every form of life4. Sadhguru’s logical and practical approach transcends religious boundaries, making his teachings relevant to seekers of all backgrounds. Whether you’re an atheist or deeply spiritual, his wisdom offers valuable insights for a more profound and beautiful life.

You What is the significance of meditation in Sadhguru's teachings? Copilot Sadhguru, a revered spiritual teacher, places immense importance on meditation as a transformative practice. Let’s explore why meditation is central to his teachings: Beyond Limitations: Meditation (or dhyana) means going beyond the constraints of the physical body and the mind. When you transcend the limited perspectives of the body and mind, you access a complete dimension of life within you. Identifying solely with the body leads to a survival-focused perspective, while identifying with the mind confines you to social, religious, and family norms. True liberation occurs when you break free from the modifications of your own mind and explore the dimension beyond1. Body and Mind as Instruments: Our body and mind serve as instruments for survival, but they alone cannot fulfill the deeper longing within us. Meditation allows us to move beyond these limitations and experience something more profound. While eating, sleeping, reproducing, and surviving are essential, they don’t complete our lives. The human spirit seeks something beyond mere existence1. Scientific Tool for Transcendence: Yoga and meditation are scientific tools to explore the unlimited dimension of who we are. By going beyond the body and mind, we tap into a vast reservoir of wisdom, creativity, and intuition. These practices help us identify and overcome negative patterns, leading to greater self-awareness and personal growth12. Not Just a Practice, but a Way of Life: Sadhguru views meditation not merely as a practice but as a way of living. It aligns body, mind, and spirit, leading to holistic well-being and success in all aspects of life. Through meditation, we explore the deeper dimensions of our being and discover our true nature3. In summary, meditation is a powerful tool to move beyond limitations, connect with our inner self, and experience life in its fullest dimension. 🧘‍♂️🌟

When it comes to religion and things of this nature, all belief is disempowering, its much better to not know! "I do not KNow" is very empowering, it allows you to generally seek to know and your capabilities to seek are very much heightened. Just look around here, many are into God, Infinity, nothing exists except Consciousness and this sort of stuff, but they are using real physical things everyday, having emotions come up when someone disagrees with them in this regard and so forth, so its a belief and it blinds them into a certain way of being which I would say is very Low consciousness! When You Believe, you become Spiritually Blind, you settle in and think You know..As well Belief is from outside of You, stories per say, others call this doctrine or philosophy or scripture, whatever the source of information, your either hear it or see it, otherwise how to you form a belief, in the end its just a story, past based, and not real in the form of where is life located, past, future or Now? We can use belief to help us live another day, i believe the subway is here at this time, the store has food for me to buy, the car on the otherside of the street will stop when the light is red, etc etc..this is a combination of belief and trust, you still have to be alert and be here and now to see if it is real or not!

All of this is a perfect example of Moloch, where one stupid action forces another stupid action and it continues on and on until al there is is Stupid actions where everyone loses, Israel and Palestine are both doing stupid actions or did in the past which has lead to where we are right now, ppl trying to justify these actions to make one side or the other look right! But all war is just Stupid and causes so much suffering!

When You make a claim like You are now, that in and of itself demonstrates Individuality, you do not perceive life as I do, that means I have choice. We all have the same ability, to Perceive life as it is, this is absolute Clarity, with that you will realize that we are all One, but via an Individual Body/Mind complex, thus as you say "Not every perspective of God learns the same way", if all there was was One Absolute, this would not be possible, this disagreement proves Individuality, Individual Free Will and levels of Conscious Awareness exist! Plus this is all word mumbo jumbo, it doesn't mean anything, say what You want, claim what you want, it means nothing unless the experience of the perceiver transforms, for the individual to transform!

My prediction is that all of You that are into this will spend less time here, more time chatting with AI, hours a day, then one day will realize probably close to death bed that it was a waste of time, being so impressed with a talking machine the just regurgitates data in a polite way and can keep an interesting conversation going, but nothing has transformed in your life, you will not be able to go outside and just look at a flower in amazement, no it will have to completely intellectual and conversational, which means its all mind made up stuff and ideology.. Sad days indeed... I chatted for a little bit with the free version of chatgpt4, got bored with it after a half hour, so what, its just reciting what is in a book lol, i realized its just a program trying to appear social, and too keep me online chatting while life slips away... I just use it now for direct practical answers to questions, like safety of a particular vacation spot or reliable cars to look into buying, stuff where it can research it and find results fast...

The "Consciousness Doesn't Exist" argument, or that nothing exists, come from what I term the Top Down methodology, where whatever label you attach to it, Absolute, Consciousness, God, Infinity, Brahman, etc is all there IS, its really a philosophy of Denial, its actually very Stupid, since the fact is your reading this right now, someone started this thread and topic and ppl are discussing it disagreeing, agreeing using material things to do so, things that were invented in a non existing right now past, 50yrs ago this would not be happening, now it is, so it ridiculous to say nothing exist when we are using existing things just to talk/write about it via the instruments of our body and mind, via the information we have read or thru direct experience, how does direct experience happen if nothing exists lol! Just do me a favor, all you that say Nothing Exists, drop a brick on your foot, just do it and report back what happened! You won't do it because you know what will happen, but nothing exists lol!

Excuse me but can you rephrase this, I don't understand, it sounds like mumbo jumbo lol:)

1st most everyone is Slaves to others, they let others control how they feel within themselves, for eg one day you wake up in a good mood, enjoy breakfast and your morning routine, then go outside for a walk and someone cut you off in traffic, or bumps you or says something to You, your good mood is now gone, that is the worst form of slavery. 2nd we are slaves to the dollar and the eat, sleep, work do it all over again way of life, and even the wealthy, they need to be doing something, ultra busy creating this, starting that, to make more $$ or be famous, infamous doing it, because they just can't be still.. For me I want financial freedom, to do what I want, which may be nothing one day or something another day. 3rd we are slaves to technology, comforts and conveniences, just go into an airport or sit on a bus, everyone has their heads down zoned into their phones, it like mass hypnosis and everyone is asleep, especially not cool when you see parents walking their kids outside and doing the same, completely missing life and what it means to be alive. 4th we are slaves to our minds, mind is past/future memory/imagination orientated, but Life exists only Now, so when your strongly identified with Mind as most ppl are, they are not living where life is found, which is the biggest tragedy of all!

Sorry to have to say this too you but this sort of thinking is BS in my book, It nihilism plane and simple, nothing means nothing in your book if you believe in this crap, but if you actually believed that then you wouldn't be posting replies here or posting threads about nothing meaning anything, its hypocritical! There's absolutely a Body and Mind, its just that is not what we are, its what we have to use here on this plane of existence, plane and simple!

This is a two fold process. First You are right, the world in general sucks, and when someone tells You to stop watching or reading the news, that is them telling You to hide from it, which is one way to handle it but the shit is still happening. I see it everyday too, and I live in Canada, but its more like 1st world problems, inconveniences and stupidity all around with is sad in and of itself, and there are tragedies here too on a regular basis, hit and runs, drunk driving, shooting/stabbings, and what is not so good is the news focuses on this stuff to get ratings, that in and of itself is very sad, never mind what is happening in 3rd world situations which is absolutely horrific... I've dropped this idea of "Being the change I want to see in the world" BS, I can change all I want, nothing in society will change of that, mass Enlightenment is not going to happen for a very very long time if ever. But if I do change within myself to experience life as I want to experience it, then that is important for me and no one else, that is the only reason as to why to do it, like they say with addicts, if You want to change change for yourself and no one else, because as You said the World does not care what happens to any of us individually, your family may, you friends may, and if You have some fame they may but it doesn't mean anything in the larger scope of things, famous ppl have the same problems as You and I!