Keryo Koffa

That's why people on psychedelics jump out of windows

@NoSelfSelf The previous replies made me think you would lean in that direction. Oh well, no contradiction then! I agree with all your comments about Self-Mastery & oneself becoming the "end all be all" With all that said, I think I'll outsource these threads to your consciousness at this point ∠(^ー^)

@NoSelfSelf I keep hearing about psychopathy, be it meta or post-irony and weakness due to a lack of manipulation skill and I'm probably too alien for these threads, but building intricate social personas and alpha lifestyles ultimately solely to pursue pussy and create elaborate pull & push chase-psychology models and the whole pickup thing just to buy into a conceptual romance/relationship game, is something I have never found any value in. Self-transformation? Definitely. Find a compatible match? Sure But being addicted to telegraphed repetitive romance/sex/relationship attitudes reflected everywhere, that create elaborate "frameworks" to "master" an "impersonal" attitudinal charade? People seem to feel entitled to and shape their lives around it, that sounds pathetic to me. Especially, since everything that is truly being sought is the kind of internal validation that you can give yourself without using others as a proxy.

@Schizophonia Because a guy told me it turns all your friends into Ewoks!

@NoSelfSelf Weakness comes in many paradigms in many many forms. Manipulating a girl to stay with you is equally a problem and just as weak. The point is to transform yourself authentically, and then come what will.

@Breakingthewall game is one way to call it, people like to use that word in every context once they learn of one.

@AION She was done with you and went to the next toy, it's nothing personal kiddo, just who she is. You're not entitled to other people's attraction. Everyone likes different things and needs their space. Imagine a random street girl you're incompatible with and that you dislike forcing you to be with her. Some people only want good sex, others spicy romance, some drama, others to solve their problems. There are also those of deep empathy, who want to deeply understand the core of the other person. But these individuals are rare and you will alienate 100 for every 1 of them that you'll happen to find.

@Schizophonia Salvia lol

Wait, international red? Are you telling me, that: It was communism all along?

There is a difference between Infatuation and Love Infatuation - Being in awe of the traits that make the other stand out Love - Deep empathy towards the very mind that materializes itself through its behavior and style And so, to solve infatuation, you need to acquire the traits you're attracted to. And love is just love, unspoken and intuitive, nothing to pursue or desire, only to appreciate and experience.

You're stepping outside of your usual frame of mind, going meta. And so you can gather new experiences and test out the new psychology-kit. As long as you make sure not to overdo it. It is like cheating, but only because our default psychology sucks so bad. And so, it's a super convenient solution to a very inconvenient problem, which balances out.

@Nemra Makes sense. We are attempting to model reality using dualistic statements after all. It's all person and context-dependent, a mass-reflected direct experience phenomenon. I'm exploring how malleable the link between the psyche and soma actually is. The thread overall is rather focused on opposing gender/sex/attraction discrimination. Which may or may not be strengthened by arguments of "innate nature" But the end all be all is to stop being a dick about people's relationships. No rationalizations needed.

@Evelyna would be disappointed with your lack of sophistication regarding traditional shamanic remedies in favor of capitalist mass-produced ashen extracts! Eh, it's fine! But really, look into it

@Dodo I'm pretty sure @MarioGabrielJ used that as a metaphor in reference to your version of our God understanding which uniquely exists outside of time and space and specifically is not the dualistic experience but [only?] the immaterial. While there are many views like panpsychism where God is equally outside as inside and all of embodied experience. But I digress, there are a hell lot of versions and ideas!

What's the endgame after sufficient experience with both? Is Malt more worthwhile for its endless exploration after completed Meo breakthroughs? Or does the pendulum gravitate to Meo breakthroughs after exploration turns baseline? Or do both intertwine in infinities to come? Does one become more of a default option?

Ah, yes, I remember that state I tried to access on psychedelics following the advice of all Neoadvaitans! It's pretty lame though !

Aww, I thought you'd take the exotic amazonian Huni Kuni Rapé snuff (tree powder) tobacco route!

@OBEler The "get thrown into cold water to learn how to swim on your own" 5-meo-dmt of course Definitely don't wanna go with the Goddess malt, which guides you patiently and inquisitely through it!

@MarioGabrielJ "You are not a cosmic bag of bones and flesh, thrown together through some mixture of chemicals and elements. You are not a forsaken offshoot of physical matter. You form the physical body with great discrimination and intimate unconscious knowledge of each minute cell that composes it." - Seth "Also, matter is just denser light." - Me

Consciousness is what's aware, what is having this experience. Consciousness is outside and inside Consciousness is experiencer and experience, Godhead and creature, experience and interpretation We really have to make room for more words to encapsulate the reasons for all our contradictions

Hmm... I see what you mean. I see it on different layers, one of which we can call innate/instinctive/intuitive or genetic if you may. It's more so an expression of a specifically focused potentiality, rather than an absolute barrier, the rose chose to express yellow. People are drawn to their immediate attraction like moths to the moonlight. Some explore these aspects, and others find it trivial. I'd say it's still a bandwidth and identity thing, especially when consciously focused upon, including ego backlash if mismatched. And yet I agree, that similar to how all of our traits, likes, and dislikes are expressed, to some it's a stronger identity than others. With identity, I include body memory, intuition, attitudes, karma, drive, concurrent experiences, and the journey to authenticity.

Much of modern science likes to call everything immaterial an emergent property, it's simpler to maintain old paradigms. You are the consciousness, it's the experience or "imaginary" transcendent meta-"container" whose insides change. A strange loop or duality axis, specifically, two sticks leaned against each other so as not to fall over. Duality breaks the symmetry, that's true. Yet infinity and zero are places to explore. I guess space doesn't exist either then. But then it's our definition of existence that we need to adjust. Else, it's just whether it's actualized and perceivable or not

@Nemra I don't see any innate barriers to attraction, everybody just prefers different ice cream flavors Now is the preference for chocolate or strawberry acquired, perpetuated, or genetic? Probably all a bit Whether it's possible depends on the depth and nature of the psychic structure that's materializing it Just like ideologies, languages, cultures, and environments, it's a complex interplay of multiple factors I guess being gay is like being an introvert, sure you can also go outside but "I don't feel like it, ughhh" Me personally, I cover all spectrums to an extent, though I do reside as an AroAce most of the time It's like, swing someone my way, and I have no reasons not to flirt, but romance & sex are overrated

@Princess Arabia @Javfly33 I WILL NOT HAVE THESE DELUSIONS STAND ANY LONGER! How dare you impose and project your narrow sanity onto space? Not for long! May I present, non-euclidean hyperbolic hyperspace: Space warping and stretching itself about is at the very core of Insanity!