Eskilon

It does, you can press a button near a bed and the act of sleeping will occur. The screen will turn black and you will wake up in another time. How is this different from sleep in real life? I think what you are trying to tell is, consciousness never sleeps, in other words, consciousness can never not exist. Correct? It makes sense intellectualy because what doesnt exist doesnt exist, by definition. So there`s only what exists, existence. But, experientially, consciousness can definitely "forget itself" or go blind for moments, and that would be unconsciousness. But you exist, you are just not aware of it so. Which is why you can be alive, but not conscious. And that can link to what you were before Birth, exactly that -- total unconsciousness, not aware of anything in particular, but still there without an identity. Can you clarify your positon based on what I just wrote?

Thanks! You too

I see. When you said that you were going through some things I thought you meant trauma and difficult emotions to deal with. I do want to understand reality. It's challenging, but I am working throught it. It's sad that I don't have access to 5-meo and I have some natural resistance, but people already had awakening with "milder" substances(shrooms and Aya for example) so I will stick to those and meditation.

You could've gone much lighter than a nuke bomb lmao. You said that it awoke fears that you didnt know you had. Do you still want to go deeper even after knowing that? Maybe you do want to know what reality is？

@Sugarcoat Why did you take 5-meo if you would be fine not understanding reality? It seems like a contradictory move lol Or maybe you got a glimpse of where it would take you and you decided its not what you really want？

But then do you acknowledge that it exists? And that you were in that state before birth?

Its not that subtle, literally every serious spiritual tradition talks about it. A nuncanced point is: You have to deconstruct ego, not necessaly intellect. You can have an ego with little to no intellect, and you can have intellect with little to no ego. But this is rare to find.

doesn't this apply to men too? lol

Just like a rocket who got to the moon had to drop some of it`s structure to get there, the human has to drop the intellect to develop itself spiritually and eventually awaken. You need intellect to get off the ground but once you get off you need to drop it in spiritual pursuits. Intellect it`s a bridge that has its purpose but needs to be droped to realize certain things. A mean, not the end.

But they do though. You are there but you are not conscious. You experience deep sleep, but since it does not have anything to be aware of, its a blank. If this wasn`t the case, how can you remember that you were nothing in deep sleep？ Isn't this the most fundamental aspect of God, what gives it it's invencibility and what makes it untouched by corruption?

My point is that you cant get quite it for real -- never. It's really a result of your intelligence and state. Where is your meaning and this kind of questions in your dreams at night? But that just my point, it's vunerable like every point somebody will make about this. Just my 2 cents

Making fine distinctions and using logic is what everyone else is doing. One could say its the source of devilry. So no, it doesnt just help you haha

It is not found. It is created. it's in your head. A result of your level of intelligence. One could also claim that it is already here and you found it. And there are more possibilities, so which one is its true nature? See how it goes？

It is, in certain contexts. Because intellect is not truth nor does it lead you to it.

Should've hid it better😭

Life is unfair, for real. Most of you guys live in Europe, which means you can play willy-nilly with 5-meo and get it delivered at your house like it is candy. Meanwhile where I live it's illegal😭. But you guys keep yapping here instead of blasting off with the frog

True. Some people need very little bo be happy or satisfied. And I would argue that's usually the trajectory you are going in when developing spiritually, as I am noticing this change in me too.

Yes. I am not undermining anything lol. Just pointing out that you can inquiry into this forever and not come to any definitive conclusion. This does not make it pointless in anyway. You just need to be aware of your arbitrary distinctions and realize theres no true answer here.

For real

Stop describing my ayahuasca trips I literally laughed 4 hours non-stop the first time. But there was no reason in particular, it was just insanely funny. Actually everything is funny as hell, you just need the right perspective. Like, this forum? Typing here for you to read and responde there？ What the fuck is this lmaaao People waking, going to work, come back and sleep and repeat over and over, bro wtf just top I am dying over here

It's a circular and highly subjective question with no end in sight. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You probably attach meaning to some dumb shit today too, no better than those figures. The structure its the same, only the content change. Whatever your attachments are, thats your meaning.

True, but he is better than Bolsonaro. Here its like: choose your thief It's corrupt to the bone

What are scientists？

At least you guys have Yogis at every corner We usually have thieves