Eskilon

If the desire for awakening must go, then deconstruction too must go. Everything must go. Deconstruction is but a temporary means, not the end. Every technique must be like this. Don't get lost in them. If you find the Buddha on the road, kill him.

Why do you think that? I find its one of the best books on the topic. Full of insights and 100+ diverse techniques of realization.

👉👈 You are a mutual then I see. Me too I never understood how can people have envy, or jealousy. It's alien to me. Regret I have mixed feelings, definetly had some, but with enough reflection and contemplation every experience is necessary for your growth and understanding. So I can recontextualize difficult or unwise experieces. I tend to say that if you look with enough Love everything was/is valid. Love is the great overwriter . Yeah, survival demands activity and understanding, which can definitely be an obstacle to spiritual work. But I would say society at large is not doing the kind of understanding we are doing here though(No arrogance or ego intended). This explain why you are so smart hihi . I wish to see the day and society where we are taught spirituality and consciousness work from the very beginning. What kind of being will that generate once everyone on the planet is doing this ? It's fascinating to think about sometimes Thank you! . I am doing my best, although not perfect, always trying to learn from every experience . You are very kind and intelligent, makes me think what you went through in life to be where you are. Granted must have been very challeging. But as far as I understand in this human experience, you are only as great as the ammount of suffering you went through, much love.

Natasha Buddha Maru . This is a proper attitude, that is not revered enough. I like to understand and learn. Especially because the first 23 years of my life I was like a zombie(25 now) -- like really just full mechanistic existence and full of addictions. After I discovered spirituality and consciousness work, its just mini-awakenings after the other, and I never thought I had this much intelligence inside of me. So when I am learning something that I am really curious about(almost everything lol) I get into this state that you are talking here, theres just the act you are no more and theres profound gratitude that I am able to explore topics lol if that makes sense. Sometimes I wake up too excited to explore that meditating right at that time it's difficult because it's hard to let go of that energy, at least for me. Yeah I dont mean like a desire for it, not even a subtle one should exist, it was just to try to communicate my point 😣. One should step in meditation and expect nothing in return, just be and see where it goes. The attitude should be, even if you try your whole life and "didn't get it" you are okay with it. At least you tried your best, and there's nothing that could've been done better on your part. This is true devotion. Can I ask you a question ? Do you have I thoughts during "normal" life? Like do you say to yourself " I am doing x, I should do x, I could have done x better" or do you just play with concepts without the I identity? I curious to know because I am an intuitive person and in my experience I dont ever encounter the word I in my head lol. Its just images, concepts, insights, and abstract stuff, I wonder if some people can relate here😅

Lol there's no such thing. The method here is valid, if there's a memory of yourself in meditation you could deconstruct that. It's especially useful in the beginning of sessions and if you are a very novice meditator. But once you go past that you dont need to deconstruct anything, you need to expand your awareness, but not as a self, as awareness itself, no words or concepts. And then its just a game of waiting for awakening(I am not awake btw, still waiting ). We are addicted to activity. It's really hard to let go of activities, especially if you have a lot of energy and a curious mind.

@Emerald Your responses are really good. I really liked the use of the "beauty glutton". What kinds of other gluttons exist? Spiritual glutton, intellectual glutton, intelligence glutton, ambition glutton, sex glutton, wisdom glutton, lmao The possibilities.

I am aware of him lol. Genetic freaks doesnt invalidate my point. In his case is clearly not a false memory or something because he was impacting the "real world" with his doings. But you portrayed your case as "Remembering" so that's why I commented. But I'm not gaslighting you here, it could be real and actual. Bro just love the feminine to death.

At 3 years old you barely have a sense of self -- If that. How can you make such distinctions?lol Most likely a false memory or something. But I agree that a guy can have genuine appreciation for feminine beauty and doesn't have any other ego reasons-- although like Joshe said this is likely not the majority and rare.

Thanks Leo, doing God's work here

The God game. Solutions are actually problems, and problems are solutions. What kind of trickery is this?. The cost of infinity

Yes but it cant be mindless indulgence, because then you would not understand the experience, and will just keep looping forever, like everyone is doing lol. It cant be indulgence nor restraining from it, you need to observe and understand. Easier said than done though. The mind is very very tricky and subtle.

I see. What you resist, persists. To transcend a thing, you really need to understand it. That moment when you just get it. What tantra teach is not to be restritictive about sex or any desire. One should go full board on sex, to be like an animal. But, with attention. By and by if you become attentive to your desires and urges you will grow out of it and naturally be more detached.

For sure. Libido = sex energy = energy. A true ascetic, is not someone without sex energy. But his sex energy has been sublimated, it has been transformed. The theory is that you don't want to waste your energy by having a regular orgarsm, you want to form a circle inside of you. You want the energy to move inwards, to pervade the whole body -- not to waste it.

A moment of understanding

I see, it is very very subtle. And you need practice, but it possible to merge with the orgarsm, so that you dissapear for an instant. Ideally one should close your eyes and focus only on the sensation itself, without labeling as a "sensation" just pay full attention to it. Doing this you will start to understand sex so to speak, and you will not hanker that much after it. Because knowledge of it is to transcend it. I don't say I've transcended it, but I'm gaining understanding more and more about the experience. It starts to lose its allure for sure.

It isnt like that for you? Actually at the very peak of orgarsm to be precise, do you exist there? You do not, if you pay very close attention.

Have you ever felt post nut clarity? Or questioned why the lust completely dissapear after sex? It's because what you are really after is not the sex itself, is the egolessness that comes afterwards, the bliss, and the calmness of it. If you are into consciousness work I would suggest you study what sex is, why the energy gets stuck down there and what an orgarsm is fundamentally. And contemplate why also every human hanker after it. Look into sexual transmutation and the Tantra tradition.

Great game.

This is crazy! How can people believe in an IA so much to the point of inducing a psychosis? Crazy stuff indeed. This just shows the importance of questioning and sovereignty of mind.

Hmm, but you go back to it everynight in deep sleep🤔.

Let him cook

Well, yeah, society would be radically different. As of right now, society and government runs on mindless ambition and delusion. People chasing their own tail and running away from death. Get this, every ambitious person is running from Death and for the most part, are crazy self-deceived. The ideal scenario would be to automate everything and raise the collective consciousness of mankind -- by confronting Death. And Then after the individual dies, he may choose if he wants to explore something, if he still has any curiosity in illusion, if so he may explore, if not he just stay where he is and bliss out.

That's true and false. Sex is one of the most difficult things to transcend because it is inside you, it's fundamental, it's life -- whether you like it or not, it is there. It's different from things like alchohol, cigar, food cravings, socialization needs, these things come in thoughts, while sex is an potent energy that is there thoughtless(it may come with thoughts but thats sexuality and not sex itself). But sex is also the root chackra, the start of the path. I'd argue the proper way to start spirituality is if you have a deep understanding of sex. If you have knowledge of the orgarsm of sex, of what that experience is, and how to access that outside of sex -- you will drop it.

Southerner In the corruption free land -- Brasília/DF

Watched it. Really cool documentary! Nice to know that there are serious people doing research here in Brazil