Eskilon

Well, ultimately nothing is independent because everything is connected -- Karma. But I would say here would be Infinity of Gods, and Alien Awakening.

What? I think that's accurate if you were to briefly describe Leo and his teachings.

So basically you will get liberated when you don't "get out" of the awakening experience, when that remains a constant in your life you are liberated, correct? About this I have an interesting quote and a question to share. The quote is from Sri Aurobindo: "A quiet mind does not mean that there will be no thoughts or mental movements at all, but that these will be on the surface, and you will feel your true being within, separate from them, observing but not carried away". Now, how does this fit with the Gary Weber example? If you are awake and liberated, will you stop to having thoughts altogether and operate based on intuition and spontaneity or you will still have thoughts, but at the heart of it you are a very distant observer, and you can see thoughts happening like you see people walking on the street? Also, theres a third possibility worth mentioning -- Where you have complete mastery of yourself and you will only ever think if you want. Meaning thoughts cannot happen out of the blue. Which has interesting implications for insight in my view(usually you have no control of when insights will hit you, in this state however, maybe you do?)

And how does that look like? Is Leo awake but not liberated？ Can you give me an example os someone who fits the awake but not liberated category, and also an example of the awake and liberated category.

An energy compelling you to act？

Can you be awake without being liberated? Can you have desires and still be liberated?

Let psychedelics obliterate said critic

Go to Leo's house

That's actually of one the best steps posted here. Cool stuff. Lmaao. I can understand that. I personally wouldn't fall for that because I grasped the shallowness of it. But, yeah, power can definitely corrupt those who don't quite know themselves deep enough.

I see.

Dope. You can make games too, since you have all the budget.

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You guys that are serious into this work can probably relate. There comes a point where fear and especially the fear of losing one's mind is very real. And many people say that fear is the biggest scam there is in this work, but really at the same time it is very difficult to overcome it. You guys that have gone deep know this. How is your attitude to fear and insanity in this work? And especially those who did not awake yet(like me), if awakening implies insanity, are you ready for that? Is there really a line where awakening is possible and you can maintain your sanity? Should one really do this work only if there's nothing more one hold dear in life? I am starting to understand the cost of understanding. Truth is a very serious matter.

Ye, I agree.

Noo, don't go the hedonistic route! That's fools gold

No, he is indian and fully naked. Mahavira.

Yes. I just need to toss away resistance. But its hard when you have too much consciousness. It's easy to let go in a standard meditation session, you are not that conscious and not in the hyperaware state. To let Go while knowing many things about existence is the real challenge.

Thanks for this compilation!

Yeah its this, the weirdness its beautiful but scary The whole work is to overcome resistance to greatness. Conciousness is like = "Why are you resisting profound love, you fool!"

I understand. I will go as far as to say that Spirituality is a battle against fear. To understand reality is to beat fear. Truth will test you a thousandfold, if you are honest, brave enough then it reveals itself to you. Thanks a lot for your tips, will try it.

Yes, I was at the brink of something big in my last trip on shrooms. I even perceived that it "offered" me a breakthrough and... I couldn't take it/continuing going deep. Like you said fear. If I did accept the offer, I intuit very deeply that I didn't know how "I" or reality would be after. It was crazy, but I also sensed that it was gonna be awesome, I wasnt ready to that degree of awesomeness lol. Its crazy scary. I still love the world somewhat, I couldn't let go of this very limited world. Suffering from greatness, can you believe this shit? LMAO I guess I am not ready to let go fully of my personhood and go into Brahmanhood. I was beginning to actually understand and feel that there's NO difference whatsoever between you and any other thing. And this wasnt something light, its not on an intellectual level, its not like you read somewhere and get it. But a new dimension of understanding, I guess its Being. It was really intense, and I am glad the medicine didnt force me and was gentle enough for allowing me to back it off. Something like 5-meo wouldn't allow it as I understand it. Currently I am washed. I can stay in being without thoughts. Eyes closed or open. I am so grateful for this. I also feel a hotness inside of me since that day, in the heart area, its pleasant. I agree that gounding methods are essential, and should be practiced, I will try them for sure. Honestly, hats off to all of you who do this work, you guys are BRAVE as fuck! I am proud of everyone here.

I agree with you, suffering and fear are the two gatekeepers to God.

I know I just need to accept it, but its too profound. Accepting is the key, it's simple, it's profound, it's greatness. But my little self is afraid, at least for now. Oh well, more work for me to do.

Sure, until you drastically change your state and this doesnt mean much.