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Hmm, not sure about this. Is meditation complex? If one just meditates(avoid the mind completely) and finds Truth, what is the complexity in this situation? Can you have complexity without the thinking mind? Reality cannot be pinned down to complexity, it must have the other end too. It must be absolutely simple as well. And it doesnt necessarily need this progression; that is from complexity to simplicity.

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God is conformed to infinity

Maybe our rules and interpretations are not all that is or not even right. That is not a crazy possibility all things considered

Its the dating subforum lol, people like goofing around. Though people here see women in stereotypes too.

Clearly.

Yeah lol, I remember everything haha. I figured it was before

What? 'Asian women' is a stereotype too. Chill.

Did you do it after or before some of you ego went away？

What about russian ones?

You are not really looking at them, see their face beyond the surface.

Its crazy, I was shocked with this insight when I had it. You can see a men in a women and vice versa if you really look at them.

They are actually quite similar if you really look at their face and facial features. But you need to really look.

You can say this about any place basically, doesnt say much

You are just conforming to the collective opinion of 2 + 2 = 4. You didnt even derive this for yourself, you learned from somebody else. Consider that this "fact" doesnt even exist for ants, chimps, horses and so on. It is relative to state and the form you are in. So any claim of realness or objectivity is absolutely bogus. 2 + 2 = 4 doesnt exist in your dreams also, so this should be ringing some bells in you.

@Thought Art It is. You could say it was because he build the framework of the eightfold path. But essentialy it was because he was not corrupt by wealth or any other human afliction for that matter.

@Thought Art I agree with you. But to say Buddha in this day would be a millionaire is a stretch. He is known precisely because he rejected wealth, didnt come back to it, and got enlightened. Leo is just projecting his path in his answer I feel.

@Thought Art Buddha was probably not against anything really. If you would come to him and said " I want to kill somebody" he wouldnt stop you, but would look at you with compassion. Everyone has its demons that need to be conquered -- thats why he would give different answers to the question "Does god exist?" he wouldnt always say yes like Leo does, he would consider the subjectivity of the person asking. The path is highly custom. But stil, if you are a serious seeker eventually you need to drop wealth seeking, the question is only how long will it take to get there. Theres a reason that almost no wealthy person is enlightened, it is in the end, a big distraction for most people.

He returned briefly to share his teaching but did not resume family life and obligations. I didnt say that. But Buddha is not for seeking wealth either because that is greed and causes suffering, which makes awakening more difficult.

This is just stupid to say. It goes agaisnt everything Buddha taught and his history. He didnt left his wealth and didnt go back to his wealth after awakening for nothing. Even if you threw billions on his feet he would walk away. Your logic doesnt even work because there must be thousands of unknown yogis who are awake but they are not millionaires and dont want to be. It seems like your capitalist bias here tbh. Just because one is exceptional or rare that doesnt mean they need to convert to millions. This is the capitalist bias.

So its just a genetic trait? In other words, karma? It's the reason why Buddha wasnt material and success oriented and Leo is?

Because thought is very messy and changes a lot, theres no focus or concentration, which is the bedrock of meditation.

Osho is saying that you need to merge with whatever you are doing. For example, when you are drinking water, you need to be absolutely connected to that activity. No thoughts, not anything. Just drinking water is happening. You need to merge with things such that only the act happens, without a self. This is what I intuit that the buddha meant --- reality is happening, but theres no self, no one behind. And for you to realize that you need to merge with reality deeply.