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Well, yeah, society would be radically different. As of right now, society and government runs on mindless ambition and delusion. People chasing their own tail and running away from death. Get this, every ambitious person is running from Death and for the most part, are crazy self-deceived. The ideal scenario would be to automate everything and raise the collective consciousness of mankind -- by confronting Death. And Then after the individual dies, he may choose if he wants to explore something, if he still has any curiosity in illusion, if so he may explore, if not he just stay where he is and bliss out.

That's true and false. Sex is one of the most difficult things to transcend because it is inside you, it's fundamental, it's life -- whether you like it or not, it is there. It's different from things like alchohol, cigar, food cravings, socialization needs, these things come in thoughts, while sex is an potent energy that is there thoughtless(it may come with thoughts but thats sexuality and not sex itself). But sex is also the root chackra, the start of the path. I'd argue the proper way to start spirituality is if you have a deep understanding of sex. If you have knowledge of the orgarsm of sex, of what that experience is, and how to access that outside of sex -- you will drop it.

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Watched it. Really cool documentary! Nice to know that there are serious people doing research here in Brazil

This is like saying "Pick one: Apple, Chair, Train, Worm".

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Flying by the seat of God's pants To act without the awareness of God, relying on ego, separation, Illusion, sleepiness, disconnection, materialism and devilry.

This is so true. Absolute devotion to Truth is almost nonexistent. Something like Buddha had when he sat under the Bodhi Tree -- he either wake up or he dies. How many people do you know that you can say " He is a seeker, he reached a point where, either he awakes or he dies ---- no in-between"? Devotion is one of the most beautiful qualities -- it can make any person cry, when you see, when you experience it, when you understand it. But it is so so rare.

This makes things more clear, nice explanation.

I see, thanks for the insight, I`m still grokking infinity too, so your input here is highly valuable.

Couldn`t infinity do both though? You can have a feet, but at the same time not forget that's its making this up on the fly? Couldn't infinity have form and at the same time not reject infinite possibilities?

From this perspective, you are saying that those who are spiritual masters and awakened ones but still in form, they are in a sense afraid of infinity? For example Ramana, Buddha, Sadhguru, even Leo, would you say they are afraid and that's why they stayed longer in form?

Yes. Usually in high states of consciousness you are not thinking of relationships at all. You are so HERE in the moment, this moment is so profound and intense that you cannot think of human endeavors. But when you come down, and go to a more baseline level you may start to want human connections again.

That`s relative.

Why should I answer any of this? That`s relative. That`s relative? That`s relative.

You, how do you know that you exist? That`s relative.

How do you know you are not sure? That`s relative.

Maybe that will help you with your baiting game.

Remind me to say that to everything you say from now on

It doesn't impress you because you don't know how deep relativity goes. In you example you are taking for granted what a carrot is, what eating is, what a poison is. ALL those things are insanely relative and open to question. If those things are in question everything falls apart. Including your mockery here

If the collected facts should be questioned, why cant I question your questioning of the collected facts? When should the questioning end? Will it end? Who gets to say? I don't need to specify this kind of stuff, it's all implied. This should be obvious to the people who follow Leo's work. Do I need to teach people of the limitations of knowledge, the questioning of history and assumptions?

You need to advance your bait game. Quite weak I must say.

Yes, never said anything about capability.

That's my point all along. And the OP point, its pretty simple no need to complicate it.

You go on entertaining nonsense possibilities. You can play those games, existence allow for it -- be grateful, because you seem to derive great joy from it. Use some common sense, read books, develop some basic intuition and you should find out the answer. And also, I am not saying spiritually superior. You are putting words in my mouth. You attitude is always like this, not pleasant to speak with. No point in talking further, out.