Tenebroso

@BlueOak Already normal in Latin America, Southern Europe and Asia

If women had to spend a day as a man trying to attract women they would jump off a cliff.

Women don't care about your authentic self. It literally has nothing to with sexual attraction. Developing a closer relationship with your essence and inner self is great but will not move the needle in terms of attraction. Watch The Tinder Swindler documentary. Women with their supposedly great intuition could not work out that they were falling in love with a scammer or is it that women are actually just very shallow and love the masks and smoke and mirrors. I am beginning to believe women like to be manipulated, it's all part of some grand story where they are the main character.

Your profile doesn't matter, as long as you are tall, white and have great bone structure. This has been tested where they create a profile for a male model and write a profile full of vile racist things and women still women want to date him, including non white women. All those standards and little details mean nothing if you are not born with the right genes.

I am not sure women are even capable of love. They can love a young child but as adults with everyone who didn't come from their own womb, all I see is raw lust for the most attractive men and ruthless pragmatism in terms of dealing with men that can improve their lives and social standing. Women in the west don't really need men for money or social approval anymore, so that leaves lust, which is why there is an epidemic of fuckboys and players leaving a trail of broken hearts.

You made the mistake of not being born to the right parents and not looking like her celebrity crush. Most women have very specific types, the further away you look from that type the worst reactions you will get. Sometimes you get that look of disapproval without saying anything, just being present can be enough to be given that fuck off look. The only guys who seem to pull off cold approaches consistently are the psychopaths and narcissists. Women claim that this is due to manipulation my observations have lead me to believe that women actively look for psychopaths and narcissists. Women have created a whole narrative about how nice guys are the real bad guys, this due to the need to conceal the uncomfortable truth that they are actively attracted to actually dangerous men. So the problem is your not good looking enough and not enough of a horrible person. I Women often speak of this special intuition they have but if you observe how they behave they either don't possess this intuition and it is a myth or they do have it but are willing to ignore it if a man is attractive and/or high status enough. When you ask questions like this you will be gaslighted and made to feel as if there is something wrong with you but the truth that there is nothing wrong with you. This doesn't negate the benefits of self improvement but understand that in this very moment abusers, murderers, drug dealers, men with multiple children with different women who all know his reputation are having sex. Your internal character is not a factor, the fact you are getting rejected says nothing about your quality as a human being. Society is just not ready to face uncomfortable truths about female nature.

Turquoise women are fucking the fuckboys and players like all the other women. Women's attraction seems to be independent of their psychological/spiritual development.

Marriage is a trap because women usually end up settling for average men they resent. The most attractive men have so many options that they have no incentive to commit to a woman, woman will break all their rules and standards to be with them without the promise of commitment. Eventually women get frustrated and put the need to be in a stable relationship over raw desire. The women resent the man they married and can barely conceal it, the men realize that nothing they do will ever be enough, the goalpost for what it means to be a good partner will always be moved and the result is marriage sucking for everyone. It's better for women to stay single instead of settling and men should stop asking women to lower their standards, you don't want to be in a relationship with a woman who settled for you. Woman are free now and we can see through their actions that a very small number of men are actually attractive to men. For all the complaining about fuckboys and players, women when free to choose naturally create a polygynous society where a few men have all the women.

I've actually lived in Paris before and women there actually hate being approached. There was an issue with street harassment in Paris before covid but since then men do not really approach. Obviously the rules don't apply to tall, attractive men. The only purpose this clip serves, is to show a minority of men won the genetic lottery and basically live in an alternate reality to most men.

None of you have the answers

I have made the same observation. So called conscious, self aware women still chase the same kinds of men.

Interesting

I wonder if we would have Calculus if Isaac Newton had access to porn? Would we have Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel? Beethoven's Late Quartets?.....

@Emotionalmosquito You said exactly what I wanted to say.

"Women can smell childish, entitled attitudes and boring personalities from a mile off, on top of being able to see through a veil of fake confidence" So they have this superpower yet they can't use the same intuition the smell the presence of the abusive, violent, cheating men who they complain about day and night? Are these men not entitled? So either this often touted ability to smell the true nature of man is a myth and does not exist or it curiously only works with men who are not physically attractive or high status enough. It's interesting the most damaging men to women and society always have another woman to hurt. All of this sounds like a myth to justify the vilification of unattractive men. There is no special intuition.

@BlessedLion Being in the womb for 9 months is not an argument for young men to not express their struggles with dating. Seeing women as queens and goddesses helps nobody. Women themselves find that kind of pedestal repulsive. Anything mildly negative or critical of women at the moment is labelled incel ideology. Andrew Tate does not own the copyright to all discussion on gender dynamics. Young men absolutely have the right to share their frustrations, shutting down conversation will only direct men to more extreme corners of the internet. Men like yourself who either never struggled with these types of thing or don't struggle anymore live in a different world. If a man has experienced constant rejection going back to childhood what are you going to say to him? So I guess men who don't have the luck of growing up with love and a healthy support system are just worthless and should just kill themselves? One day if you are in a bad state for one reason or another I wonder how you will respond if someone says to you that you are pathetic. I guess you are psychologically and spiritually perfect.

@Yimpa Do you have anything useful to say, what was the purpose of this nonsense?

There is no correlation between the internal quality of a young man i.e personality, emotional intelligence, kindness etc and how attractive he is to women. Hateful, violent, abusive, amoral men all over the world have sex and relationships everyday. So obviously physical attractiveness and status are the deciding factors to the romantic fortune of men not entitlement or any of the rubbish being spoken about here. The idea that a man is lonely because he is entitled and deep down a horrible person and women can somehow sense it is gaslighting and just makes you sound pathetic. None of you actually care about young men, they are just a tool that makes you better about yourself "look at how evolved and insightful I am"

Weekly finger wagging towards struggling unattractive men. How brave and noble from supposedly high consciousness, self aware people. So fake.

Loving yourself is not the answer to 99% of life's issues. Loving yourself won't stop you from being hideous and having people unable to hide their repulsion towards you. Deluded. You would have a point if the only relationships that existed were between perfect, always positive, completely spiritually and psychologically developed. I think we can agree that is not the case, so evidently being attractive is obviously not contingent having these traits. Abusive murderers are doing just fine attracting women and getting laid, even getting married. Evidently the inner quality of a person counts for little until it's time to gaslight unattractive men about how terrible they are. Yet who is being toxic, cheating and mistreating women well that could only be the supposedly internally perfect, wholesome men who deserve relationships according to your point of view.

My counter argument is that reality does not match with what he is saying at all. Human beings are shallow. We try to pretend that we live in a world where all these internal qualities matter despite the fact you don't even get noticed in the first place if you are not attractive or high status enough. No women is interested in the wholesome, emotionally intelligent, self-aware man unless he is attractive enough to be on her radar in the first place. Young men are being told women don't like you because of your self loathing, personality etc Yet toxic men have zero problems attracting women. Since you know better why don't you present a "solution or constructive steps".

"Women can smell inauthenticity from a mile away it just reeks of desperation" This is the kind of rubbish that annoys me. Supposedly women can 'smell' inauthenticity yet the most abusive, negative, narcissistic men attract the most women. Either this intuition is a myth used to shut down conversation or women actively choose these kind of men and people like you try to gaslight unattractive men to shut down conversation because it makes you uncomfortable to acknowledge the truth. Self loathing and negativity only matter if you are unattractive, if you are nobodies type. It is not as if everyone other man and women out there is completely free of negativity and always confident and positive. Human beings are a constant work in progress, there is no finish line to development yet people find themselves in relationships at various stages of psychological, emotional and spiritual stages of development. If you are the 6'5 with blue eyes dream man that women all over social media obsess over you can be as hateful and imperfect as you wish. The never ending treadmill of self development is pushed to unattractive men to mask the true ruthless of attraction. It has nothing to do with self love and being whole.

Timothee Chalamet is a famous Nepo baby. Millions of men with similar personality get overlooked. Women use men like Timothee, Danny Devito, Pete Davidson etc to make a point. When really the point is that status makes any man regardless of personality attractive. I am kind and friendly towards women, doesn't make them attracted to me. The only people lying to men about attraction are women. Women complain about toxicity from men they are involved with yet they can leave these men. Are we to believe women with their incredible intuition are being blindsided and manipulated or is it that all standard go out of the window when it comes to attractive high status men. While men who have never lied, hurt or cheated on a woman are ignored and told it's because their toxic. I am not the one abusing women, cheating on them, manipulating, making them uncomfortable on the streets. Yet the men who do those things have no problems.

@Kid A Rubbish, go and troll somewhere else. The difference between getting dates and results with women has never for anyone, anywhere been contingent on emojis.

This is not true. Women say this to conceal the truth of what they are attracted to. Openly Psychopathic, narcissistic men have zero issue attracting women. They don't have to hide anything. One of the most common things said to unattractive men is that women can somehow sense and intuit the negative traits that are holding them back. So women can have an insight into the true nature of unattractive men and absolutely know their intentions yet, curiously this intuition does not seem to function as well with a certain group of men. Either women do actually care about kindness, emotional intelligence etc if a man is attractive or high status enough or women do not have some special intuition that guides them into making the best mate choices. Women all over social media basically admit that they actively choose fuckboys and assholes. It's not just young women or women from disadvantaged backgrounds. I believe women only have true primal attraction to the most attractive men and actually negative traits like narcissism but they have trouble reconciling what they are attracted to with what their ideal selves in their minds should be attracted to. Women want to be attracted to kind, emotionally intelligent, gentleman but that is not what they respond to. For all the vitriol directed towards players, abusers, fuckboys etc it is interesting that these men always seem to have romantic partners. You can almost see an algorithm that the more of a drain a man is on society, the more horrible he is, the less issues he has with women. Yet there is attempt to gaslight men into not seeing what is obvious because the truth is so uncomfortable. Ironically, if incels and unattractive men were as bad and dangerous as society made them out to be they would have no issues attracting women. It's telling that the few incels who go on to unfortunately hurt people end up receiving love letters from women but let's not talk about that. No, women are morally superior, virtuous mind readers.