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Akaash is what happens when you listen to women and mainstream society on how to be attractive. I bet he was told throughout his 20's and 30's just be a "good guy", "it will happen when you least expect it", "just get to know women platonically", "do you have hobbies?"...............Just the same regurgitated gaslighting.

Interesting perspective but how do you account for exposed abusers, serial killers, narcissists etc attracting women. I spoke to an ex girlfriend of a murderer of multiple women, Wade Wilson. He had marriage proposals and a petition to have him released. Women on TikTok admitting that they would not be able to help themselves around him. I asked his ex girlfriend what she saw in him, she said that she knew his reputation but he was too attractive to turn down, it was supposed to be a fling and then turned into a relationship. There is also the growing issue of female prison guards having sex with inmates. In the UK female prison guards were having sex with a convicted rapist. I think women care about raw physical attraction and lust more than we want to admit as a society. It was repressed in the past now and we have not caught up in terms of the narrative around dating because perhaps it paints an unflattering picture.

The men who are most likely to harm women are not the ones struggling to date. Misogynistic, psychopathic, philanderer's who just want to get in a woman's pants are not the ones struggling to date in 2025 going into 2026. These are real concerns but my observation is that the worst a man is the MORE he attract women even after he is exposed and known for his behaviour so it's hard to believe that women are filtering for these qualities. It seems red flags are overlooked if a man is hot or high status and then women blame men who can't even get a date for things other men are doing.

All those women have far more options than the average man. Every woman regardless of size, shape, race, background, style, personality will be able to attract partners, they will at least be someone's type but the same is not true for men. Many men are no woman's type regardless of how kind, emotionally available and safe we make a woman feel.

What if nobody has ever said yes and you are in your 30's?

Interesting insight. Is that why guys who are maybe not so intelligent or let's say cerebral do better with women? They are not stuck in their heads, trying to figure out dating like a mathematical formula. If they get rejected they simply move on instead of thinking about hoe that rejection fits into an overall pattern.

Spiritual narcissism is a big issue in stage green. They seem to put themselves on this moral pedestal and become very judgemental.

There isn't someone for everyone, many men especially of this generation will die alone.

Don't play around. Way more women are having casual sex than you think and there are a lot of down low bisexual men having unprotected sex with women and men.

Everyone should love money. Pursuing financial freedom is one of the most loving things you can do. You can help yourself and others, some forms of building wealth are more exploitative than others but that is difficult to escape in this reality. I say a lot of things about women but I don't resent them loving money, it is the least of my issues with women.

You want men that have so many options that they can drop any woman they are involved with like whenever they feel like it. A very small percentage can trigger real desire from women and those men get to do what they want, that is a big part of woman's frustration with the current dating scene they can't control the behaviour of the men attractive enough to get your attention.

It's true. I would say top 5%. Society is uncomfortable with this truth so persistently gaslights men as you see in this thread. If it wasn't true you wouldn't see such a vast gap in the experiences between men. Some of men literally end up having tens of thousands of partners while many men get literally nothing. Almost all women will have some man be be attracted to them regardless of background, size, personality, style, looks etc the same is not true for men, many men are no woman's type.

Your argument that women are becoming conscious and filtering these men out does not stand up to scrutiny; anti-social, emotionally unintelligent, misogynistic men attract women if they are physically attractive and have some status it's that simple. My observation is that the worst a man is the less issues he has with women. Narcissistic, emotionally unavailable, cold men are not the ones struggling from the male loneliness crisis. Every day on social media women expose toxic, abusive men and what is the result? more attention for those men, they are never ostracized so is toxicity really the issue? Society is unwilling to face the truth about female attractions, women care way more about looks just as much as men if not more judging by their actions and care a lot about status and power to the extent that they are willing to overlook red flags if men have these qualities. You seem to have cause and effect mixed up. The misogynistic propaganda didn't create these men or come out of thin air. Sensitive young men who genuinely want to connect with women, experienced rejection after rejection, compared notes and realized society was being dishonest with them and these influences took advantage. Now I agree with you that the Alpha Male influencers are causing harm, I dislike them but the advice from the other end of the spectrum is actually what we were raised with. If you were born after 1990 in a western country the social conditioning you received was much closer to the advice you give out than any Alpha influence dudes who only appeared on the scene about 15 years ago. The core issue is young men have eyes, ears and experiences and their experiences does not match what we are being told. I am basically the opposite of a stoic, cold, mean, alpha dude. I am; sensitive, emotional, artsy, have more female friends than male yet men like myself struggle only to be told it's because of propaganda we are receiving when in reality most of these influencers appeared on the scene when I was already in my 20s and I had by that point already a long list of rejections and traumatic experiences with women. I think part of the issue is that for the vast majority of women having a love life or being able to just get a date is take for granted. It's just a given, so women can't fathom the idea of not being able to attract the opposite sex so vilify these type of men without knowing the full story or questioning their biases. You seem very confident in your view that men are struggling because we are adopting a form of masculinity that is repellant but I would ask you to reconsider your views and think about it. Most of these problems predate reddit, forums and red pill podcasters/influencers. The manosphere and red pill is a symptom not a cause.

We are just returning back to a more natural order. When women are free then we have the world we have now. Women naturally find most men repulsive and not fit for mating or even just dating. They had to deal with men in the past due to social and economic pressures but those restrictions are gone at least in the west and they are not coming back. The solution is not to force women into the roles of the past through laws and coercion. We should teach young boys not to expect to have a family or love life growing up and we should legalize polygamy so that the attractive, high status men can marry all the women they are involved with. Women form harems around attractive men when they are free, we should let them do it. This is what they want. Women have the power in the west; situationships, friends with benefits, hookup culture, one night stands exist because women when they are free actively choose to engage in these activities.

If women like you they will come to you. My attractive friends never have to approach women, women just hover and appear in their lives without them having to do anything but exist.

@TheGod I will say and do as I please. I have approached women, there you go making assumptions not very enlightened.

Rejection is the norm. Women take great pleasure in rejecting men, I wonder if the reward centers in a woman's brain light up when she gets to reject an unworthy man.

You are either attractive or not, burying your head in the sand helps nothing. I find it interesting how this advice is never given to women. You never hear people tell women "get over the imbalances, unfairness, injustices in society" or any other demographic but the advice for men is just to suck it up and supposedly issues will resolve themselves and relationships will unfold. People like you don't say this from a genuine place of concern or care but to shut down conversation and silence men struggling with dating. Men who struggle with dating make you uncomfortable because they unmask the true shallow nature of society. In reality buzzwords such as true value, being special and unique count for little. In 2025 love is going to come to you because you are some detached, enlightened person who has everything figured out. The manosphere is mostly trash and full of grifters but people like you OP are trash in another way, due to your intellectual and spiritual arrogance, an unearned condescension. You don't have the answers.

You have to have something you are so passionate about that the stupidity of other people does not even register. I am so focused on writing a novel that someone could spit in my face and say something racist and I would just step aside. You have to think of the bigger picture.

You are just discovering as an adult man that looks and money matter?

The kind of man, women claim to dislike yet he has an endless supply of women.

I am going of what women themselves say, it's being written about in mainstream articles. There are female dating coaches teaching women how to signal they are receptive. What reason would I have to make this up?

This also matches what I have observed. Women are not very receptive to approaching today because they find most men creepy. The more confident women are increasingly taking the initiative because women today have very specific types. My attractive male friends are constantly being approached online and in real life.

So you think naturally women want to be pursued and that is what is best but due to traumatic childhoods and emotional damage they get into these cycles where they are chasing, which never ends well. Correct me if I am wrong. A question I have is can a man attract any women who is emotionally healthy through pursuing or is it completely dependent on being her specific type? The problem is that from what I see is that many women have the same type. Even if they are actually healthy and want to be pursued. There is a lot of talk across social media about men not approaching women anymore or initiating contact but the overwhelming experience from the male side is that women DO want to be approached and pursued but by a very specific type of man.

@Emerald The issue is that in 2025 women are not attracted to the men who would see them as a prize, despite claiming that is what they want. I think the problem is that women want the men they see as the prize to adore them back and be their Prince Charming but these men have so many options that they have no incentive to prioritize one woman over another.