BassamMo

I'm not a military expert. I only care about the human life and want peace to prevail. But seems to me that the IDF is carrying out a genocide in Gaza and basically viewing the two million people there as Hamas, I will never be ok with this personally

I understand the tactic but hundreds of civilians are getting killed by those strikes and many who have survived have said they had never had a warning! Seems to me that some here value the Israeli life more than Palestinian's which is pretty weird

The scenes coming from Gaza... wow! IDF is going berserk and literally striking everything. Hamas are freaks and should be dealt with 100% but my God, the atrocities and massacres the IDF is carrying out in Gaza are next level terrorism.

Two state solution is the only way for peace. Make Palestine without military and international forces will be there to secure its borders, the US and UN to give billions for Palestine to be a more developed country and we'll go from there...

Ground operation seems like it'll be a huge risk for the fir the Israeli army. 40k hamas fighters who are ready to die as Leo said, will probably cause lots of damage to the idf, I don't care about both but I can imagine huge numbers of Palestinian civilians are going to die which is making me unable to live normally tbh

Before opening this topic for the first time I thought I'd find unbiased look at the situation by most people here but honestly it's disappointing to find many of people here adopt the media narrative as well, crazy cause it's against the teachings of Leo

Not necessarily imo. Hamas did kill civilans 100% and IDF "the more developed" army is casually killing civilans everyday as well and it's accepted and considered self defense. And when they get caught doing something dodgy such as killing the prominent journalist Shireen Abu Aqla or bombing a hospital killing +500 people in one strike, they claim it's done by the Palestinians not them cause they care about the human life, God forbid they kill innocent people...

More developed? For sure. More honest than them? Well I'd apply skepticism to that, I personally view both of them equal in that regard... We agree on the last part.

I love you man but you surely give the benefit of the doubt to the Israeli side way too much and accept their narratives, that's just what I noticed.

Just a general thought, I believe Hamas are making it worse for civilians and they should be faced with absloute force and such organizations will always cause instability but don't be blinded by what they do or have done from the atrocities or the evil of the Israeli government and army who view Palestinians as animals or subhumans. There's no Hamas in the west Bank, yet Israel are still killing Palestinians there, so don't blindly give the benefit of the doubt to that government or you might be supporting injustice while you're not aware of it

@Leo Gura The BBC and MSNBC reporters who work for biased channels said right after the striking that such explosition is very unlikely to happen with the rockets Hamas use and is most likely an Israeli air striking

So Israel bombs a hospital (they have bombed hospital, ambulances, schools before and have been killing +3000 civilans for a week) and they claim it online then delete the tweets and change the narrative four times then post this video that Palestinians killed themselves. Same thing happened when they assassinated the journalist Shireen Abu Aqla, after the online backlash they received they said Palestinians did it. Let alone the fact that Hamas' rockets dont even have the capacity to flatten such a building and kill +500 people with one strike.. Blaming the deaths of your opponent on them you know... in the words of the great Leo Gura, HOW CONVENIENT!

Well how about a state without military? And the forces allowed between both states are from all over the world? You give Israeli government the benefit of the doubt way too much Leo and I find it pretty crazy tbh

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" and saying that Hamas has the capacity of making such an attack is an extremely extraordinary claim https://twitter.com/Kahlissee/status/1714399214229188673?t=5OudIKufHpDsdPVQdmrmvQ&s=19

What negotiations? Israeli government has been against any negotiations for simple stuch such as allowing aid to go through the Rafah crossing. It doesn't need an expert to know that Israel have bombed that hospital,they have been striking civilians like there's no tomorrow for the past 10 days. Let alone their contradicting stories they had and the deleted tweets from their pr accounts after the bombing happened