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hahah Osho, Pattabhi, Mooji, Balsekar... didn't realize no-self?

Skip the solipsism, pua, and mental masturbation threads and it will be fine.

Not everyone feels bad after. Maybe is not the masturbation, but the shame or guilt after it. Careful with this.

Of course they can. Is what Leo calls Zen devilry Search for all the scandals of the biggest gurus. There are a lot. Some of them are manipulative and narcissistic. Thats an assumption you are making up. I agree with you that both are best. Its something you have to work to, but they don't necessarily go together.

Who said the purpose of humanity is to propagate itself? You just said it. Its a perspective.

Reading this post, is clear that I didn't reach enlightenment. It was an awakening for sure. As clear as it gets. But fades. Maybe is because I had it on weed, no too much, but still... Looks to me a problem of embodiment, but you say is not an insight to integrate...

Ofc they do. They just don't want to be loved the way you think.

You are mixing 2 different things -You can take 5-Meo, awaken and then live a shity lifestyle. -You can meditate 10 hours a day for 50 years, not awaken and live a great lifestyle. An awakening is a realization, not a lifestyle. @r0ckyreed read this ^

I was referring more to the Big Rocks vs Small Rocks analogy. I was warning about having too many rocks. Yes, the examples are broad, but be careful. Maybe that doesn't work for everbody. If found the key here is coming back to this principles/mission statements and work on them every week, as a dynamic thing. Good luck!

@Osaid You said this in that post you mention: Enlightenment is just truth and what is always the case, and being conscious of that. It is one thing experienced forever. You don't learn more insights about yourself afterwards, and you don't gain more clarity afterwards, because all of these imply "more truth." You don't have multiple enlightenments, because that means you are becoming conscious of multiple truths, which is not possible. Enlightenment happens once. Awakenings can happen basically until the day you die. - How do you know when you reach this point? Is there a way to know? Couldn't it be a false assumption? On Infinite Love. Of course if I didn't experience is just an idea. But if people who are awake are talking about it... it may be real. The same way an awakening to Absolute Truth or no-self is. We all start this path believing. At the beginning is all we have. But yeah, I get what you are saying. Really appreciate your advice

I just had 1 real psychedelic expericience with DMT (changa), so Im no expert, but for me its a full disappearance of reality. Like going to another dimension. Appearance of fractals, lots of color, entities, hallucination of sounds, the 'sense' of Nothingness, Infinity, the Void... I dint have an awakening with DMT, although I experienced Nothingness, Infinity, and saw the Void. This experience with weed didn't have any visuals. Reality stayed exactly the SAME. Just changed the context. 'I' appreciated Reality, Oneness, Absolute Truth for the first time.

I wouldn't say psychedelic effects but...

Nope. 'You' 'do something', and your ego (The 'I' thought) appropriates the action (like the kid in a group project that does nothing but puts his name anyway') All of these 3 are just concepts. Mind constructions. Is very well explained in Leo's videos.

Why don't we substitute ambition with Love? Is like ambition but leaning toward the positive side. Hitler was very ambitious... Ambition sounds more selfish. Just caring about me and my tribe. Not saying is bad per se. Just adding nuances. Having Love as the North Start can be more effective and powerful (think of Gandhi, Mandela, MLK, Jesus...)

Is too much. I tried this approach and doesn't work (at least for me) Do you believe you can internalize all this? I looks like this one on the left: If you get stuck you can try this approach: -Pick 3-4 big rocks like Steven Covey said. (ex: career, spirituality, relationships & health) -Of those, pick ONE in which you are going full out for the next month/season. -Put the other 2-3 in maintenance mode. -Just write a couple of statements for each rock, no more. Strip away all the fluff until you get one or two powerful statements. The less the better. Good luck!

yep, looks awesome In my booklist for Christmas This is the opening quote. This guy knows something.

Check it out between 2:07 to 2:45. Pure confidence and chill. 'I don't give a fuck' attitude. For me, thats the face of mastery, as George Leonard puts it. This week I was looking for some old people as inspiration, some reference as to how to life a great life in my late years. 'what would be a great life in my 60s+? - I asked myself This guy came to mind. Mastery (flow) + Spiritual work = True happiness / Joy

There is no replacement. That guided exercise is similar to neti neti. Stripping away layers of concepts Negating everything until I arrived at... Nothing! Actuality! Absolute Truth! (I think what you call 'total openess' is what I refer to with these words).

Nope, thats not what happened. I wasn't trapped in the self! I wasn't the center, I wasn't an experiencer! I was the experience Thats what scared me haha I didnt let go of the self. I didn't surrender. It wasn't intentional. That just happened. Reality manifests itself': Yes. This. That is, there is nothing more to know or understand, it is pure existence, what you are. glory, happiness and laughter.' Yes. And for me, also: fear. My heart pumping HARD. (Is funny that the next day I was watching some video of Leo and said exactly that: You are probably going to feel your heart racing and you may feel a panic attack. YES I did. Exactly. That was what I was thinking. How to maintain it? Is that even possible? Or we just get an increase in baseline day to day consciousness? I think is more like this. We get the up & down, but the baseline is now 'higher'. More open, as you say.

What do you mean? Biology, math, atoms, the number 6 are concepts. Not Reality. How can I have a RAW experience of 'biology'? That is a layer upon Reality. mmm.. that's what I was thinking today and yesterday. What's the difference between awakening and enlightenment? Is enlightenment a permanent awakening? Is that even possible? Imagine Leo talking to a hot girl in the club. 'He' is not the Infinite Field of Consciousness at that moment hahah He is just a man talking to a woman, trying to get his needs met. I think is impossible. I still don't grab this. I was asking that because I feel I can go deeper, and wanted feedback of people who had gone deeper. I realize I can have an awakening, but not being deep or broad enough (for example, I didn't awakened to Infinite Love) I always hated when people 'parrot' those terms. But now I got it. I know what they point to. Before it felt like if I was a virgin and people talked about 'cumming' 'orgasm'. They were just words without substance. Now is like I lost my virginity and I know by direct experience what they are pointing at. But yeah, I realize those are just concepts. A way to communicate between humans

I wasn't meditating. I was watching the video 'Guided exercise for realizing you are God'. Now I understand why Leo warns people about meditation. I went way deeper this time with the guided exercise. Was a totally different experience. I get what you are saying here. The thing about awakening is that is spontaneous. I was watching the video and it happened. It was a realization, a radical recontextualization or reality. In fact, I was scared. I didn't wanted to surrender that much! But it just happened.

Of course. Now I only have a memory of that. Now all that is just a concept. The ego-mind is identified with 'having experienced an awakening'. And he loves it. How tricky! He is even claiming that it did it! The question is: Is possible to live permanently in that state? Are enlightened people living in that state? When you ask Rupert Spira about awakening or consciousness, is the talking via DIRECT PRESENT LIVING experience? I doubt it. And even if he does, just by putting it into words for an explanation, 'what it Is' is already lost with a layer of concepts. Is the finger, not the moon. But at the end of the day, we have to communicate in some way.

There was not total calm. I can tell you that. haha Was a mix of fear and uncontrollable laughter. I was saying 'this is it' 'this is it' I consider it organic. It happened. It was a sudden realization. Thoughts arose. But 'I' wasn't having them. They just appeared. It wasn't a meditative state. Way way different experience. At the end it remind me of Leo's live awakening videos. mmm still don't get what you are saying here. maybe in the future I will

Really? Isn't this the 'basic foundation' of awakening? How can you have an awakening without realizing this? Yes, I get what you are saying. Now I realize the memory of the awakening is just that, a memory. A concept. I realize I'm attached to the story. Is an ego trip. The ego-mind now fragmented reality into: 'having an awakening' and 'not having an awakening'. And it likes to identify itself with the first one. How sneaky

Solitude is number 1. Not full isolation, but long periods of solitude is a must. Inspirational reading, contemplation and introspection. I also like the concept by Sam Ovens of just 'looking outside the window from 10,000 feet view'. Understanding trends. Understanding where the Adjacent posible in your field is. So: Solitude + inspiration + contemplation + introspection + deep 'feel' and understanding of where your niche is at.