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Hey, never say 'Never', Right? You could def write it if you feel a pull towards it, i mean, id be surprised to learn if more than like 1% of the world right now even knows who Pyrrho..., like you'd effectively be investigating something thats New to this generation, or the coming Gen. Hey, even if its just to get ya into something, starting to write, or to do something from a different perspective. Even if its initially just pulling the best parts from this translation or something else you are reading at the time, Ya never know what could end up transforming into a new place or a new opportunity. I'll have to check out R.G. Bury's translation myself to learn what thats all about.

Oh thats neat. You are saying thats somethin' you are writing? I've definitely looked at Pyrrho, as I remember seein' this face several times now, i just havent looked at Pyrrho in skepticism, so it was prolly something to do w/ Alexander the Great

@around2:30, we get to the part where the Israelite Hebrews question god, and god brings a serpent, and the serprent bites the Israelites. And after many of them passing away due to these snake bites, they then go to Moses and say, "We have sinned... for we have spoken against the Lord... And against you...!?" The Lord said to Moses to put a serpent on a pole, "and it shall be that everyone who looks at it (perhaps not w/ their eyes... maybe tis meant "imagined it") and that anyone who is bitten who's imagined it like this, shall subsequently survive (live)" Now if you caught one of my posts once where i was talking about them being lighter weight, not as tall back then, yadayada, and you can start see why a venomous snake bite, regardless of its size might be a death inducing situation -prolly for us too, as ive never been bit by a snake. But we have to be careful not to mix up the story w/ the latter period, which is to say that they mightve actually used the snake message as an attention grabber, and whether or not its apart of the Moses tribe story, it doesnt really matter, cause laws and messages like this play the same role(s). Due to the latter sanitization of the story, it makes it seem like they are gonna experience a"miracle" of the snake, and it goes into "Nor let us tempt Christ..." therafter, but I dont look at this from a standpoint of "everything is sanitized", cause that would be ridiculous too. Things are based on something, and somewhere out there there is an accurate message, speaking to something that points in the right direction. You just have these things like "The Spirit... The water... and the blood" and elements of the bible that were written over, likely very important elements, as they all sound like something critical to the story. Ergo im just speaking to the fact that the truth was erased (unless the church has the truth stashed away), and thats all im speaking to~im speaking from a place that is like, can we rid us of this vanilla crapola and insert the chocolate that it needs ~note, im not a huge chocolate fan, but this is so much vanilla that it actually needs choc., And so then, that way, we can feel it as a real story, and not like l’introduzione... l’illusione... il prestigio, even if the magick element is important. That is, the magick elements are staggered in such a way that i dont feel like theres a good message, nor a message that makes sense when it should make sense, hence im trying to focus on Moses, in particular, who has alot of poignancy towards the religion in general, as someone who has a message that extends outward as well, cause it bridges the moments with Egypt and the Israelites. The rest is more of like~a family of things that are hard to pull apart, like the families of someone in India or something, in the sense that, im not gonna be able to say much more about those Indian families beyond whats already there in the bible.

Rather than going over any one scientific or metaphysic, or magical type thing, why dont we ask about the *question, questioning, or the preconditions to "a thing", required. because its not until we find ourselves walking a path that we may begin to understand what path we want to be on thereafter, let alone what & why we are on that path... And this video is sortve the extension on that, leading into a more complete idea around the myst., or the incomprehendable questions & preconditions This video begins from the notion of the "question", and the conditions towards theurgia. And rather than explain theurgia, which i certainly could (and may consider doing) leaving yous w/ 5 paragraphs all on it, i simply want to let yous uncover it on your own~Theurgy, which is layers of layers of layers~likely even beyond those who think they know what it is, as these things are basically a long story

For anyone that wants to read these books now, i found the second one here, The Master's of truth., on Archive dot org p.s. im readin it now nd i regret not reading this before, cause ths shts so good. if anyone finds more books like this, or anything like the 100 booklist books that i posted in the book section, plz do send me them.

Thats a nice way to put it; Thats prolly what i was thinking too, and you were able to find the words for it. *p.s. there's of course the term "gnosis-", but thats associated w/ more than what we want in this context i believe, atleast in modern times its taking on new meanings that are fluid and hard to pinpoint, like more on the *mystery side of things. or so i feel.

Okay i got it now, it was three books that i put aside~someone originally recommended me, that i had listed in Epistemology and similar sections, but that i thought were more appropriate for something like this occasion where ppl are tlkin' about this stuff specifically... The three book are Vernant's Myth and Thought Among the Greeks, Marcel Detienne's The Masters of Truth in Archaic Greece and Maria Mili's Religion and Society in Ancient Thessaly

This is something else yous can look up, that which i have several different perspectives and ways on approaching what is really the same story of 'Moses. Which is that, the oldest accounts of someone named "Moses" come from the non-biblical works of Hecataeus of Abdera. He is supposed to have recounted the Egyptians who blamed the plague (not the bible's exaggerated plague) on the foreigners at the time, the Hebrew people, Hebrew again just being sortve an "outsider" term like barbara- in Greek, atleast i mean to say, thats what it was pointing to... what they were sortve saying to those non-Egyptian folk at the time. And it is suppose to have described how they expelled those foreigners from the country, whereupon Moses, their leader, took them to Canaan. Of course, Hecataeus's work only survives in fragments through Diodorus Sicilus, but its noticeably sympathetic towards Moses, describing him as a lawgiver. So on the Greeks and Hebrew side, Moses is a legendary hero, albeit nomadic. And thats how he was to even be described by everyone (generally) prior to reading this ('cause think about it, what else could you possibly conclude about Moses). That is to say, all roads lead to the same vague depictions of Moses, or that vague form rather ~often having a serpent involved~ 'Cause like, thats not only the surface level conclusion, thats also what our earliest accounts of him seem to have concluded as well, so... I mean, regardless of who or whatelse he might've been, thats who Moses is Now, and probably who he'll always be now (i dont really see how to go deeper into it, beyond the unknown story w/ the serpent and the nomadic people learning, buts thats hard to really track down... granted its cool to talk about and think about)

People can start in the Greek directly w/ Theaetetus [*tʰee-ay-tee-tus] (on Classic.MIT Website) yous can read it, cause its asking "What is knowledge", Alas i wanna look for this book I was talking about in the meanwhile.

i had the perfect book i think for this topic, but ill have to find it again, as it was like the entry to this, both religions and knowledge, investigating ~for me~ but i ended up never reading it passed the first few pages to begin w/ and i cnt recall what its called atm. *p.s. our grammar, or the way we communicate is based on Homer, so Greek literature is in a way the introduction into whats become how we all talk, and subsequently how we form ideas around knowledge, or what we consider *it.

The artist in me feels like theres something weve not resolved, or something i have to ask @ anyone whos interested... but i think thats just the ocd art comin through ~ thinkin theres something we are missing, like it could be something moral or ethical, it could be something that pertains to the young ppl looking up to us... it could be something thats suppose to inspire. iuno. theres a whole host of possibilities. Iuno im getting like this thing i call a "multiple scenery of gods flying through or overhead" images~in mind... This one, in particular, is like, i wanna say a forest in the United States between Ohio, Wisconsin and Kansas... Like Wisconsin's Potawatomi; And maybe theres pink & yellow, like just chillen in the background somewhere. So maybe that was it.

During the parts of the bible w/ Jesus, theres this thing about the scandal, σκάνδαλον (skándalon), between Peter and Jesus, which begins w/ Peter the Apostle, who pushes back against Jesus Christ~And what Jesus said about his own path—suffering, rejection, and what lies ahead of it. Peter reacts, shocked, trying to correct what sounds unacceptable. In that moment, Peter is no longer aligned w/ the path Jesus is set on~because in contrast to this, Peter is trying to bend it, redirect the path he's on (i guess he feels Jesus's path doesnt makes any sense), testing the path to some degree. Jesus answers him very sharp and stern-like and calls him a σκάνδαλον Jesus then shifts from that into this greater message (like a "yous all" type of message). He brings a child into view—not as decoration (or i guess... in some sense, he could be... i dont know) in other words, the child is like a prop., to make a greater point about the uninformed/uninitiated, those moving forward without defenses. Then he says, in effect, that "to cause one of these little ones~to stumble~is to become a σκάνδαλον for them" I mean, to me this part has the most potential, atleast in the way im explaining it. Like, first it shows how easily a person can step out of alignment and, without the intention, try to redirect, bend or test what shouldnt be tested over and over again, seeing as Jesus is trying to point to a fundamental, a decision that hes already made up his mind about. Then it warns—your misalignment can spill outward and affect others, especially those who are less stable or more exposed. So the teaching moves from a specific incident to a general principle: stay oriented, don't obstruct (dont stagger between, if you can help it) recognize that what seems like a small interference, can become the point where someone else loses their footing. So this is maybe the one redeemable part, that which shows some redeemable quality/message of Jesus. He was on to something there, no doubt. But anyway, the reason i even brought that up was to make mention of how this part is interesting, beyond the observations we just made. Like the sequences that involve Jesus and his disciples are unusual, to me atleast, granted alot of what i read i feel doesnt add up. However we can reduce the sense of things not adding up by finding atleast one redeemable part or quality, which could be this one, i dont know. That is the part i suggest for now.

I think we use to have more super, natural female energy around , before antiquity, is what it was like, like an ocean of the fem., or a slipstream of that insectoid-like attachment from some male, female couple (be careful who you are letting on into your circle, right) And so like, this era where it wouldnt have been as taboo to cum and be like, "Eat this to be cured now, Mary", wasnt strange a hundred years prior, closer to barbarian times (note, thats not me calling it barbaring times, cause thats coming from greek texts, many, as they talk about us originally coming from that) but theres something else starting in that era that starts this taboo / prohibition of this stuff, to sortve exalt Jesus post mortem, and demonize him while hes alive, and we are doing that right now, like... The bible is makin it out like this just got sprung on Pontius pilate, that he jus had to begrudgingly accept it, and execute him, and thats not to say then that thats not a reasonable possibility, its just to show you that the sortve "jewish movements" (note we dont know for sure which groups were the ones yelling "burn the witch" -sortve things, during the execution) and are condemning people before having acknowledged what they are condemning, and that cycle is still in full effect, and this scene is a reflection of that in the world, to me. Like theres this insectoid-like element that was lost, or misunderstood or left in a papyri somewhere, stuffed in a monks drawer~somewhere in a monastery, and we dont have that since it was something you couldnt necessarily say during antiquity ~or it would be the beginning of the taboo~. Like if you look at the Ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs and their obsession w/ bees and mushrooms, you get a sense for this bee culture, and these insectoid tribes, which is like super realistic feminine energy coming through, feminine from a mothernature perspective. Now its weird & taboo and nobody understands it, and so understandably so, it keeps getting killed off before it has a chance to exist again, and to me Jesus is like a symbol of this insectoid energy, and people are misunderstanding him and his offerings, cause hes not really a murderer, is he? hes just weird, and hes tryina force a new flavor/energy, this sticky texture, and others are "cleansing it", and *sanitizing it. Like the bible might be telling a 90% sanitized version of the real story is what im gettin at, and we are just comparing our notes to it as if they didnt sanitize the sht out of it from 1—500 some AD p.s. his followers cant be exalting a man who's THAT bad, like theres gotta be something redeeming about him that they are tryina communicate, cause otherwise its like the worst game of telephone ever.

Colloquy Soliloquy We gotta get people reading and writing again, as its very tough to have these persuasive, cognizant discussions, conversations that are moreso thinking in a twitter or tick tock format, almost like an older timey AOL text chat~in terms of the sense of prohibition that they would have for said investment into well-thought out pieces, like as if to *think into what you are saying, and the quality of the conversation itself. Like its no problem to initialize conversations, but its not like its like a collision of minds any longer. More than likely, its not gonna be a conversation you intended on having, if they are to be had, given that its more like an occasional brush up against the evergreens, like a rare discovery within. Everything is being funneled, like in the world, or so it would seem. So thats what I would say. I could write quite more, several hundred, but its like, does no one get it? Like at first i was looking for someone thats just gonna be into some of the stuff i thought was interesting. Now i realize im looking for anyone who is like, just flowing, without a care~without fear or fear of time, not inpatient, but considered in turn as worthy. In that sense, im not tryina find just one person though, like that would be strange now, it should be like a cascade effect, cause thats like such a fundamental things we are tryina bring to the world stage. Like thats not a hidden secret that we wanna covet awaySooo , Like Anyway, That's just my rant: Just flow <- Just flow people <- That's the message.

I have this unexplainable joint-like feeling (as if it needs to crack) in specifically a right-sided location~that is very hard to describe, but i must atleast try, just to see if anybody knows what im talking about. It is only when i either stand on my left leg, letting my right leg hang, whilst moving said hanging-leg in either circles or forward-backward (or left to right) that i feel a targeting of what i can only describe as a Leg-to-Pelvis joint-like feeling that needs to be cracked, but i cant crack it. Sometimes standing directly on the right leg activates it. Sometimes wiggling my waist activates it, et caetera. And according to chatgpt there isnt a joint there, being that its so low ~sortve near leg/butt, and Not in SI joint, i dont think, cause its very lower, like what i wnna keep calling leg to pelvis bone) I tried alot of movements they said to do for things like that on youtube. None of them get even a little close to activating what im talking about. *p.s. if any of you grew up w/ Spongebob squarepants, when he says "stop on your right foot, and dont forget it ~ NOW bring it around town... around town..." That "around town" motion, is yet another movement that activates the feeling that im talking about (which again, is on the right side) So if anyone has this exp., let me know, And maybe let me know if you had any way of cracking/or resolving it. Like it feels like its at the precipice of cracking but due to the nature of it~the unknown location, i cant really express what/where its at & what it feels like -> Other than the fact that it activates whilst im standing, doing these slight hip movements, or moving my right leg around in circles, or standing/walking on it or switching to standing on my left leg~letting it hang~going from hanging-to-pressure put back on the right leg)

this is actually hilarious. there are accounts of people writing on the Saturnalia festival, that is... Pliny the *Younger reportedly built a soundproof room so he could work during the raucous celebrations. Lol... hey.. Thats actually smart, lol. Soundproofing in 40-50 AD XD, good idea. keep out the sound. The same thing is reported by Seneca the Younger, a complaint about the noise lvl (im guessing its common for writers to write how pissed they are bout the sounds, cause hes literally tryina write prose, tragedies, etc.) Catullus describes it as "the best of days" And He also ~humorously~ receives a book of terrible poetry from a friend as a jest what amounts to the worst Saturnalia gift Lucian makes a satirical steer around the festival, mocking the whole theological pretense of a god who can only preside over debauchery for one week a year ~ and then returns to being unknown XD. The four letters that form the third part of Lucian's Saturnalia turn the relations between Cronus and mortals upside down — the poor write to the god complaining they get no share of the festive abundance (Lucian himself grew up poor kindve, so maybe thats part of the joke) Seneca is one of the richest witnesses because he's conflicted: he wants to participate, but finds the whole thing philosophically undignified. He writes to his friend Lucilius: "It is now the month of December, when the greatest part of the city is in a bustle. Loose reins are given to public dissipation; everywhere you may hear the sound of great preparations, as if there were some real difference between the days devoted to Saturn and those for transacting business." He then deliberates about whether he should join in or do what he usually does, continuing on ~ seemingly torn between whether or not he should be attending. I mean, these are the best times, its like~millenium old traditions of hilarity, parody, satire, fun goofs & comedy, mockery, jesting, et caetera. Like...

p.s. Im pretty sure the dominant imperial cult under Constantine I, w/ Aurelian having elevated it to the supreme state religion in 274 AD just a generation before Constantine, lead to those predecessors of Constantine adopting the Sol invictus imperial impression, raising it up as we said, and im pretty sure thats one of, if not the primary reasons for Christianity, cause it merges judaic philosophy unto Roman Sol inv., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol_Invictus Constantine made it such that they stopped persecuting christians and started to favor it. Like he starts aligning w/ a Christian God and the Christian institutional network, which subsequently gave him this unified identity/symbol and a claim to divine mandate... And 50 years or so later, Theodosius makes Christianity the official state religion. I mean, that pretty much sealed the deal, granted alot of stuff lead up to this point, 200 and some years of it, but hey... it is what it is... I mean, iuno if yous would call that a foundation of a tradition, like The Jews certainly are painting their own portrait of what leads to their stuff, though iuno if theres any evidence. But evidence aside, theres def a way to make it work, bit iuno, the one god thing is weird... like its like we are copying off of atenism. I was looking at Akhenaten not to long ago~as possibly pertaining to whether he was like, an illegitimate king, bearing a secret that gets him into trouble later, Alas iuno if yous would be into hearing about it. Anyway i just thought that that Sol invictus thing was very telling... And its kindve annoying cause like, theres no true heroes in this story (specifically as it would pertain to the holy war). Its just like one ruler after another, indirectly, discretely burying Roman traditions, possibly on purpose, possibly by accident, and through Roman tradition itself. Like the best part in history was when the Greek gods just came onto the scene in Rome, and you had like jupiter, neptune, mars, mercury and apollo...Saturn & the Saturnalia. "Wtf, we want the saturnalia.." thats wat i wouldve said 2000 years ago

No one understands whats goin on when it comes to like, just the bare basics of nature & progress and its relationship to ethics, history, magick, etc (which are just a few of the things that use to be tightly interwoven) because like we arent seeing how far weve come, both for the bad and the better. Some areas we are progessing in society, some areas we are going backwards.. some of this isnt about studying history or science, philo., not directly... As its like *growing a seed or a flower from seed... That is, if you arent growing from a perspective that is producing the right plants fromthe right seeds... then wat do you have, right? Like, some of this stuff is actually about that initial artistry and acknowledgement... which is hard to really explain... but assuming you do get what im tryina say, it is that musical~poetic beginning that shapes the seed and plants.. And the consequences of that lead to "the necessary enthusiasm for a thing" -kindve thing... Like, im explaining it poorly, but its something like that... Like that is what it all *leads up to, per the individual, which all depends on these seeds of understanding in the realm of art or music or poetry, but its not to dismiss the mystical, or the religious or the philosophical... Its just that its like, weve separated these things as if to *add something to them, and in doing so, weve pushed things to the side to say, "this isnt real" or "this is made up, but science is real... THATS real". Like thats not how you do science. Thats not how one defines "real". We havent even begun to do science or understand *real. Science was originally based in art & music, as well as the mystical, much like language. Language was purely magical at one point in time, a way to practice divination, and was used identically for this reason in every culture. Like, we lise who we are when we fall into a closed minded systemthat only acknowledges things for what they are... Nevertheless, you can see who the innovators, though you have to go to Ancient Greece for this, to see how these thinkers are shaping things, and how important Mythology/Philosophy is to this, cause its another unseperable and intimately close-knit aspect... Like, Protagoras for example (Not Pythagoras, granted i like Pythagoras too) who came a century or so before Plato... "Man is the measure of all things". Like, hes tryina express how unique our opinions and perspectives are~that they are a factor in this equation, an aspect that cannot be separated and taken for granted, cause you cant just say "What the nature of everything is, what reality is..." You need to consider that thats coming from one particular mind or framework, and thats a huge factor. I wrote this thing recently, specifically on this subject of like, how we dont always know when an idea has gone from the "feeling space" to a place that "makes sense" or "is real" (putting aside that we might have to study what "real is" atleast in its most temporary degree~towards what we can even mean when we say *real.. ergo other terms like ~comprehensive~ might be a better temporary term to put in its place), and now, yous can tell me if you understand what im tryina say here, and if it makes sense to yous: Granted, this is like 0.0000001% of stuff im still workin on, but you sortve start to see like, how intricate everything is, and how many threads you have the opportunity to pull apart and explore/explain... p.s. Someone showed me the Abbas the Alchemist channel a month or so ago, nd hes got some interesting & well thought out stuff... granted, his videos are often short and sweet... but i bet i could find yous hella crazy resources, book lists, vids., etc., like i have so much stuff and im tryina figure out how to weed through all this atm... Someone like G. W. F. Hegel (1770-1830) was someone who was saying the same sortve thing, And again, there are Ancient Greeks saying this stuff, from a framework thats unrecognizable~but just as much rich, replete w/ fecundity...

I noticed there was alot of "trans-" interest and/or related posts, and as i have a few gay friends, it got me thinkin bout something i jus recently learned about Uranian (a sexuality term) The term Uranian being a 19th-century word refers to men who are attracted to other men. from classical Greek ideas about love—specifically Aphrodite~Urania, a heavenly form of love that ancient writers assoc. w/ love~between males Its sortve like tattoos and stuff like this that go through phases (going back to ancient Dacians and/or the tattoo gingerbread Grandmother's of Bosnia/Croatia, etc) where ppl today are tryina come from it like its this new thing / area of reality, but these are just phases of Mother Nature and its creatures, circling on the same set of ingredients, especially if you look at how Ulrich is circling back to mythology, and how he frames these things. The last hundred years have heavily suppressed all of these ancient ideas; however when it comes to the Uranians, these were just people standing up for their sexuality in the 1800s ~ and was Karl Heinrich Ulrichs, a German, was very much outspoken in regards to He published essays, multiple, under his own name~arguing that men attracted to men was a natural variation of human beings, not criminals or sinners, and of course in 1860~the pinnacle of like, suppressing everything, it was seen as radical. In 1867 @ the German Jurists' Conference 1867 in Munich, he stood up and tried to argue publicly for the decriminalization of homosexuality (note, long story short, he was shouted down before he could finish). But the point is, he was one of the first people to openly argue that homosexuality was natural. He sometimes described gay men as having a "female psyche in a male body" ~ Alas that was a common way to think of it~Or atleast by Ulrichs time it began to ~ He coined terms like: Urning (German) = Uranian ... Opposite is Dioning which is "men attracted to women" (though i dont think it means ordinary typical "straightmen", as hes getting his term from Dionysus, and Dionysus is not a normal character to use, to describe such a thing, so there must be more to it) inb4, later on writers like John Addington Symonds and Oscar Wilde used Uranian to talk about male same-sex love in a more idealized or noble way. There was even a small literary movement called "Uranian poetry" And so, In todays day n age, Uranians (as a word) isnt even really known about. Its not some strange modern category—And this gets to the conclusion here, which is Ulrich, and how he he built a whole universe of descriptions and ideas~of what kind of person Uranian was describing~through a mix of early psychology and classical myth. And if yous wanna get into some old history of "trans" thats a good place to start to build up to Hirschfeld (the classic "transvestite"), David Cauldwell, et caetera (note, those terms we use today around trans- are from the 50s or 60s or around there, though Ulrich was one of the first to really argue that same-sex attraction was inborn and not criminal... And going to Ancient times you have Hermaphroditus, the child of Hermes and Aphrodite, merging male and female, etc) Anyway there was quite a few trans' threads, so i felt it was incumbent upon me to get involved in some way, to some degree, so yous might start to see what/where the preceding terms in this category are coming from ~ p.s. ꝝ → is an abbreviation used for -rum (but i use a similar symbol for capital letter "P", though its more like /ꝝP/ visually)

ChatGPT: Notice that the earlier Greek texts do not mention the Father, the Word (Son), or the Holy Spirit/Ghost as in the later Latinized Comma Johanneum. The “Spirit, water, and blood” is what’s found in manuscripts like Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus. Which is in Greek, and then is found in Latin later on in 1 John 5:7–8 or Comma Johanneum, "For there are three that testify: the *Spirit... the water... and the blood... and these three agree" Again, we are playing a game of like, "How directly can ChatGPT reach for these realizations on its own", without influencing it; Like the goal is just to generate one or two ques., or comments at the start, to get it to reveal the truth, truth as it would apply to vocabulary, or anything grammatical, or our perceived history on the matter (it doesnt have to be in the bible, it can be w/ anything)

I have so many resources atm, for various interrelated projects im doin', that i dont even know like, where we could even begin; Ergo im waitin til someone shows interest, at which point ill unload the motherload and we can all collab, assuming everyone is-into the same things at the same time typeve thing. I mean im tryina find ppl interested in ths stuff but its hard. thats the difficult part—For some reason.

@MixcoatlTheres a ladder of truth that you walk from that point, you know... (Even after youve taken psychedelics, it still followes this sequence as its like the Egyptian Thoth laying down the chronological steps): It goes like Rupert Spira~and this sortve like, sitting w/ the idea of like "What am i, Am infinite, what is reality, what is consciousness, et caetera..." Then you sortve go through a dark period after that, cause thats sortve the perspective of where things dont really take shape/form so much, but rather they exist as being itself. And then somewhere after, surviving that darkness it settles into a place that makes better sense, cause its no longer framing it from a question around reality, but rather, you are to become the *participant in the question, which doesnt imply "being" so much that implies you defining "being" actively, not to mention defining everything else thereafter (alas,. theres a moral play~or synergy between creation and your own being and experience, and it leads to a place of appreciation for lots of things, history, religion, etc., assuming you get to this creation place, which surely most people do i believe, i dont know. as its not like its entirely *non-obvious, its just unusual from the standpoint of "what is consciousness"... if you see what i mean. Note to self (NTS): Its actually kindve freaky, cause history reflects the internal world sequence)

(part ii) Ima try to explain the line of reasoning for yous in a different way anyway., granted it might be more confusing than my original ques. XD.. In other words, its a contradiction to think of *Christ~historically from the perspective of "anointing w/ oil for consecration" epithet (Jesis as a King for instance), given that the idea of Jesus being like a king is being applied after the *Christ title~Or rather you could say, Christ is a title he applied to himself, or his closest followers gave it to him, but not as a king (for the word anoint his applied to priests/kings), but as someone who is anointing others. So its not saying anything about *anoint/king, but the opposite really, cause hes the son of the *living Christ, and if anything he is serving the king, and consecrating that living Christ~for Christ , by way of smearing, spreading, applying some substance on others. And theres a few options here that he could be saying w/ Christ, e.g. "put out your tongue... let me give you the eucharist..." All the way to "Let me cover your entire body in the eucharist" to "Let us take the eucharist..." to... "If you dont take this, you will literally die, so have faith in me". The point being, hes not the king of anything, but hes certainly rubbing or smearing; And because people later say "look how important he was To his followers, Christ must be implying sonethin like, *hes a king", wherein the actual reason that they have that word "Christ" in the first place is scrambled lost to time... That word doesnt just drop out of the air... Jesus & his band of misfits are using that term and giving theirselves nicknames (p.s. lets not even bring up "Petra", as thats another long story, but im jus showing you that it isnt a falsehood to know that Jesus is well-known for naming people and places) p.s. we've turned the original Greek forms of the word *christ into a starch epithet that sounds like his true name, but that word is just the result of a millenium of confusion, erasing the fact that the "chr-" doesnt end @ "-ie'st"... In Greek, that root becomes a *stem, and a subsequent flower of possible terms related to the root form; In English, all of our words are deliberate distinctions, so we dont have a treasure trove of words that sound like "chrie", so you cant blame anyone for thinking that that word sounds independent now. And not to make it even more confusing, but the "-st" ("str") part of the name is another Old Greek root/stem = meaning "to spread, apply or extend to", that which gets used in important ways~and it just so happens to occur in this word meaning "to spread on"

Note, i just wanted to demonstrate how obvious and simple this line of inquiry is, that even ChatGPT is lead to this discovery almost immediately without pushback~I will skip some of our questions to get to the point, but feel free to ask, and i will post the 1 or 2 questions i asked beforehand to get it to here~And whats really a fairly obvious conclusion... ChatGPT says: The honest linguistic point you're pushing toward: χρίω before it becomes religious terminology just means to smear, to rub, to spread a substance. It's used in completely mundane contexts in classical Greek — rubbing down athletes with oil, applying pigment, spreading wax. It's not inherently sacred at all. So the question becomes — is there a meaning of χριστός that predates or sits outside the kingly/priestly consecration tradition? Where I'd point you: Look at how χρίω is used in non-religious Greek writers — Homer, Herodotus, the medical writers like Galen. There it's thoroughly physical and practical. The religious "anointing" meaning is arguably a narrowing of a broader word. -------- @ everybody whos interested Yous might not even care about this, but to me its important because, somewhere along the lines people stopped understanding history, and now we have stories that may potentially be way off... And its not the church's fault, as its not their job to do history24*7... Like the church technically isnt Thoth @The Halls of Amenti,as they are just like us regular ppl, losing information w/ each generation. Anyway, if you have no idea wat im talking about, just ignore this. I jus thought someone out there would see how im just weaving very simple lines together to generate the results that are the most straightforward and direct, where the words themselves actually lead you; And not the weird movies and fake imagery from the 20th Century Fox News typeve thing~so to speak *Note, for anyone who is confused, plz do feel free to ask me to send what my initial ques. were (one ques. that had two parts basically) as thatll illuminate the topic.

I just dont understand whats wrong w/ growing things and selling chocolate, that is, you have these ppl like bill gates nd such investing in apparently *good things, then why arent they creating opportunities inside the realm of natural things, that which are natural and have micronutrients essential to the body. I mean wasnt there somethin weird bill gates invested (within the last few months i wanna say it was), like lab grown eggs and chickens, or milk or something ??? (i think it was fake butter & meat)