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I have a, idea for leo, for an episode, although it has to be within context or it would conflict with episodes about practicality/survival type episodesl. and that is, first, just imagine, it starts with like, the rifling off of all the things that ppl deem as 'X', in this case it would be all the things that ppl feel/fear are like the primeval statues blocking their way, like all the things that are perceived as being survival-requirements, and thereby the feared giants that they must obey. At some point those things are more like limbs in that, to live is to go through motions, though thats prolly not the way leo would go on to describe it, as im giving my really shortened/bad vers., so it can be reinterpreted in the right way. And so, then the idea is whether or not there is anything that precedes these tall statues, and what this temple of things looks like—again thats me describing it vaguely, and poorly so it may be recreated in the proper leo way

The beginning, the time where all time starts is happening now, but we are busy inventing, and not beginning. We could begin if we invent an end. Im workin on an ending, but its more of a beginning that you go to—cause iuno wat yous wanna do, or wat ya consider a direct ending, as i feel like a perfect form—is both, where one goes in one direction, the other the beginning direction; i mean, its like, have a dream you are like, goodbye, typeve thing. Now iuno why im even bringin this up but i just felt like yous could start thinkin bout it some more, really take it seriously and flush it out, and see wat yous come up w/, as the path that leadeth to a beginning cant really be a person, but an idea of one, or something. Iuno, ask yourselves wat is your first memory like... Thats what that path IS, the other is a real person, yourselves walking into the light, but you are observing it from a distance as the formerly-you you, and so iuno how you encapsulate that two-branch, but you could just imagine, as i said, one guy goes to the light, the other is just dedicated space, until youve observed yourself as gone guy, gone guy out, new era in, input ouput; Like, having the oxygen in the room pulled, or the lights turned off via man in the distance, you are just the second-path activated as the observer. Yousll know what i mean.

did this male and female thing ever come up in yall guys's psychedelic trips, that is, the usually positive negative-ebb n flow undulating—did that whole thing ever devolve into like a male n female thing. ill skip over the details, or the purpose/reasoning, since it implies going on a long tangent.

Elfen Weledol Spiritual experiments. Do some spiritual experiments. Draw a pentagram, or visit a cemetery and do some necromancy. Talk to the sacred groves, here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_grove Ask the spirits there, what are the possibilities, and make a vast list. The trees will tell you all about the rules and laws, and the details of the situations you find yourselves in, as well as how to like, begin to understand or to investigate the scene you are in, as an instance of the very scene that always exists (the scene also = Elfen Weledol; or Element of Seeing), nd just understanding that is just like the cover of the book. Take some mushrooms and talk to the trees. ~ see the previous message for one of the primary premises, that still isnt even the highest node-premise, but a pointer to a more finite priority premise to have established later.

There are no rules Starting from that premise, ask yourselves, what rules have yous restricted yourselves to—although of logic, share slight caveats w/ each other—that is that "there are.. no... rules" E.g. when you die, that obviously is itself the idea of not being the version of you thats like, a however years-old person.. But then ask yourselves, what rule says you arent still YOU?. ... ? Right?.. Thats just one example. Consider everything now... like, possibly around the cycles that you consider as the baseline, consider if/or whether or not theres cycles within cycles, or cycles w conclusions to every cycle; consider everything you thought was an assumption, that you thought made logical sense, and then simply realize, "there are no rules". Reevaluate those self-imposed rules from there on with the freedom of knowing that there are no rules, except of course for your OWN, fake, very brittle, self-imposed ones. This is only one part to a part-bajillion-story of concepts to free yourself that, we have not even begun and properly go through and express in detail, and as such, we have been way off track as far as like, beginning that journey. Im just awaiting to see places to add just like, very small fragments of a story that is a bajillion-finite-point story.

I believe this is in the realm of intellectual, as its sortve about how to think differently and learning of the ways in which we may communicate w/ nature. This video popped up. I thought it might be interesting. Have i watched it yet? No. But we will find out if it was any good together.

@theleelajokerits also sortve a good thing to just say what you feel, when you feel it like we were—cause if you wait to long to ruminate on somethin,and try to really analyze it, you end up sortve, spoiling the spontenaity factor or whatever, like the thing that gets ppl talking, which is more of like, the subtle areas that havent been worked out yet. like theres a level somewhere between "too well thought out" and "not yet though about at all" where ppl want to give their input inside of, and if it exceeds either of those lines, it can lead to just, ppl not *getting it, so to speak, if that makes sense

@theleelajokerOh i say all types of crazy shit to ppl, i dont have time to be on the fence about anything. Yeah, i will ask things like this... because to me, ill have thoughts that feel they arent"a fully baked thought", yet, wherein ill wait for awhile until ive ruminated over it some more—and then, depending on how crazy it is, or how interesting/thought provoking it is to me, is a sign of whether, or not im going to be interested enough to send it to ppl (or write it down). Actualized is where i mostly send things that are sortve in an awkward state of not yet being fully cooked yet-yet still having something to it—that is a bit too.. err... i wanna say the word im thinking of is reasonable... like alot of unreasonable and unforgiving craziness is sent by me, every which way to friends and non-friends, like a submachine gun spraying bullets everywhere.

Identity i was sorta thinkin of something partly related, which is bout the notion of "identity". Like for instance, in the idea of the center, or the one, or unity or whatever, you might say we strip ourselves down to the fact that theres no identity—even if to say that, "this identity i have is really a learned—reasoned-over-time amalgamation, as opposed to a true identity that i conceive of...", thats also a form of seeing-it all-as a shared identity—which is the same idea. And so, this notion if identity is a hard one, to try and answer on the spot. Example: politically, if you are in the middle you might be on the independent side. Easy. Done. Hands washed of it. But if someone says, "whats your identity", or "do you have an identity", see now thats a hard one, especially in todays day and age where identities are every-which-way outside of the box, just runnin' rampant. So, who knows. Do you have an identity? And, if so, what is your identity—and then to follow that up, how would you describe your identity, and what it means to you, specifically for you?... Perhaps a better question is, does having an identity even matter—the minute you are born and existing, surely thats a form of identity that matters, or is that just a fossil-form of identification, and your true identity doesnt happen til later on???...

https://youtu.be/wdIUzxWYl8c?si=z2PeDqsgT-gN7Wyk

Math, science and technology have a similar, but differing way of evolving over time—and more and more the way we design systems has this notion of splitting everything into like, these individual components or commands in order to generalize/abstract the system—being that its incomprehensible nature leads to it being harder to work on without; Similarly, and increasingly, science and math have these notions too, like where you can choose to elaborate further at all of the points where it seems fit to do so. Although, its not always necessary, or right, to elaborate in such a way where it turns every point of understanding into an interfacing component—and it comes down to the lexicon-ographer, or whoevers in-charge (whomever has the most insight, holding the most pieces in their head at once) to make a refined decision about "how those *points of unknown* should be further interfaced with/or not"—and so, it is somewhat up to everyone to assume this role, that is, everyone who is in a position/viewport into that area of study, or that system. Nevertheless, when deciding on when it is right or not, there is a methodical way to go through all the material, such that you can begin checking off those boxes, and speaking up. Putting that aside, i think its always better to elect someone w/ the designated role of making those decisions, or passing it down to someone else, like a team mate. Anyway, the bottomline is that, i feel we are finding ourselves in a position where we are depending on someone to be insightful enough to make those decisions, but because the cities are all skyscrapers so-to-speak, we have to make sure its being designed from its foundation-from first principles. If your lexiconographer (im just calling it that for now) isnt so use to building everything from the foundation, then youve got the wrong person. p.s.its more useful if others specialize as the Historian, or the Inventor/Engineer, etc., in order to expand the amount of special insight into whatever area is being focused on, and then the Project Leader/lexicongrapher makes the bigpicture decisions. Anyway, thats getting off track, as i just meant to bring up the ever increasing likeness between math, science and technology, and the increasing need for organized teams that are comfortable with electing a leader. Things start to become aimless without an elected leader, wouldnt yous agree? Just to put it in perspective, even in families, the male is sortve the unofficial leader of the household, even if its never verbally communicated. Its just a role that happens naturally~if its about working on a project, then you need some form of a leader, especially as every male on the team is just gonna assume "well, im obviously the leader here", because no one has said otherwise...

if you look at nature, animals understand English in a meta way, as well as a literal way, thereby showing how they communicate w/ nature—experiencing something that is primary next to survival—and as such, there are many areas of experience that we dont understand, such as there existing a way to receive language beyond what you hear, cause what you hear is just sound, one mode. In that way, we also dont understand reality, nor ourselves as participants in it. We can encounter paradoxes, but do we understand them. There is no limit to the amount we dont understand and may never understand. We dont understand more than we think we already do understand. Survival is also a way to speak about the ~ not dying (everyones got a personal definition for it tho), but its not necessarily death that you want to avoid is it? its being staggered to death you want to avoid, cause if you got shot in the head, then it wouldnt really matter, Thats one way to look at it. I could go on.

terence tao is like, the best at finding those hidden connections nd relationships nd such; Now obviously hes not like a psychedelics/consciousness expert, as hes just like a single track sevant, alas its interesting to imagine what hed experience. i dont feel like i ever hear from the more, call it eastern planets/ancestry of the world speaking on their psychedelic exp's, iuno why? hm🤔 (note i havent watched the whole video yet)

As long as you are asking questions, or asking a person to ask questions too, that is the best starter towards getting to the heart of what something is. If it is — say a sport you want to get better at, asking questions about the kindve form or ways to hold their racket, and sometimes that isnt something the player ever thought about, since it can be unconsciously trained, and thus it gets that player thinking more about their own form and how they can try doing it with say their left hand. You can get better if you are ambidextrious in a lot of sports, or especially on drum kit

our whole lives are like a fitting a square peg into a round hole. you dont even have to think about why your suppose to practice, because the act of doing (or thinking) about it isnt whats detering you from it, rather its just time and age, and the mindset/configuration you are currently in. With age, you wont notice the difference between yoga, or meditation or riding your bike or playing hopscotch, etc. its just an activity, and you realize theres no such thing as having to had practiced ever, your mindset just changes and you do things without thinking in that way. hard to explain; but the things that drive you drive you different w age, and who you are is just, less new to everything, therefore nothing seems *incompatible*, or something like that. p.s. you should also do "freeya yoga" which is sitting, and not following rules or laws, that is, just sitting there, naturally, without resisting or following rules & laws to how you sit there.

@Princess Arabiaim an hour in, theyre on the part about the theory of everything tyoeve stuff, and how physics progresses, and if it will... and it is beautiful cause im like, they are like planets just floatin out in space themselves, tryina put it together, like all of us, as no one is excluded from the puttin it together, and especially as they mention the beginning of the universe, as far as how no normal theory works, etc. its like, oof, we are out in the deep space, very close, very far, and on.

Yeah. That is sortve like how it is, except that—iuno if you ever took psychedelics, but like, theres a little bit of animosity present in how the structure of reality tries to keep itself together, or in other words, the exponential infatuation and ever progressive thoughts towards maintaining a better dream, then a better dream, then a better dream... That actually is only Level 1... Level 2 or 3 is more like a high dose of psychedelics, if you remember what happens.

maybe an even better question is like, will anyone ever in the history of lex fridman, come on his channel and be like, theres one thing called reality... and then, proceed from there talking and sortve guiding everything towards the center. Like are the chances near zero of that happening? And is it just cause no one understands what that is...? We could make it make sense, though, its gonna be rough, like, theres near zero amounts of places you can go w/ it. Hell i think theres atleast one road i like in there that i would take it, and make it make sense.

@Ulax You almost have a good question. almost. but i would start by rephrasing it such that you arent asking about situations, as its hard to pin point what that means when you are asking "how do i think...", then adding, ".. when asking a question", or.. "when im describing something". It also feels like you want to ask about spirituality or consciousness work since you mentioned leo, and in that sense youd have to clarify if that is what you meant to say (p.s., i believe your allowed to ask leo and @ him directly, assuming thats what u want) Therefore, your approach to asking your question requires some revision; at which point, what you are asking about might find a better fit. Something that would make more sense imo would be, e.g., "whats the right way to think about this area of research (*insert that thing youre researching*).." or ".. Whats the best way to think about this project im working on!?" (*insert project*), as that gives us context.

i figured somethin out w ai, as i was startin to get really angry with its random line of speculating/assumption making. Alas, i learned to "Ask it to ask you" questions, and have that be its default mode, instead of letting it throw things at you that dont make any sense. And that way, its looking to solve answers to a set of questions before going off and giving you its bag of words. Now it might not be enough, im not sure, but we will see how it goes, as so far its shown to work better than before. Theres of course still issues around circling multiple causal points at once, like it cant reason about too many things at once.. and it has to be pain-stakingly walked hand and hand across the street (and then back across the street again) so to speak

Like, when you accidentally have had your hand on the button that reads: "Press this to trip", thats like what i remember the psychedelic exp being like, as like, this thing that you feel yourself literally pressing (and then later, forgetting. Much like how automated heart pumping or breath-having is like a realization exp you are having when youve pressed upon realization, that which you forget you are having once forgotten) Somewhere in the process you forget that you were pressing the button, or what it was that even got you to, beyond a vague notion. You might in fact also forget that you were tripping, or atleast, the specific circumstances surrounding. and then the trip feels like it is building from/and off of— a sortve sequence of thoughts you had — that which all seem to pertain to the moment you are in... but , its more than that, cause its like, the thing that got you to that point is itself a riddle you cant quite recall—so too are the thoughts you are generating thereafter, as, its almost algorithmic; like, for every 10 or 20 thoughts that spin up, another 5 thoughts back in the thought buffer are getting lost in space And, you are constantly forgetting things you were so deeply invested in mentally, nd physically that its like, breaking reality and the moment you are/were in; its almost like, a test of how much patience you can have whilst you are having the exp, cause its mostly like, surviving this event: having thoughts that come to mind that neverend, and only seem to grow in both (1) there proximity to each other (like how finite the thoughts are from one another) as well as (2) how many there are in the global time of all thoughts that could/nd would ever occur And lastly, these thoughts are like, reality constructs that work for you/against you, cause they are playing into literal reality too, like they make the mechanisms happen, and are a little criss-crossed w/, well, its the thoughts themselves that are crissed crossed, and how anything you think or feel (anything in the experience) is connected visually, or vice versa, where visuals are connected and communicated within, which means you see what you feel literally, and you feel what you see; And it applies to all forms and senses alike. iuno theres something weird in the sentiment, its like a *right on the tip of the tongue*, like, not just for like the nature of reality as it is, but specifically for *where it came from, and where its going*, like, you can smell your pre-school experience as it is, as if you are there. And thats what i mean bout bein criss-crossed, cause you are like, pre empted experiencing—through time and space, such that material reality is also no longer following the standard library of code, but rather is runnin a new experimental crazy town

we gotta pass information down to next generation such that they can make things a little better, and they can maybe figure out where things go where, and maybe theyll figure out how to just phase Ai out if its useless for them, like if someone invents some sortve hardcoded versions of those places its in, and such that its got no purpose, then itll be the thing thats being phased out (its fastest when its been converted—i mean—its just the niche places that require it right now anyway) The only thing tho is that—as an advertisement it fits better in a sentence. Like, very simple and dumb things stay around for ever just cause they are so easy and simple to talk about that they just get repeated over n over, and that is really difficult to kill off or get rid of, as we are still dealing with things like that, but that are thousands of years old, these like prehistoric memes that are meaningless, that are so simple they dont die, and have been immortalized, but that goes both ways, like advertisements can be fought back by advertising—like you can layer on more advertisements and overwrite other advertisements w/ enough time n energy, probably

They should work out a geometric structure of the Ais internals, that is like, part logical and part function() or whatever, wherein each logical or functional piece can be put together, that way its a structure that has W * H (width and height) that is flexible, and has parameters. Like, thats whats great about geometry, its indicative of something that isnt a literal structure, much like how our experience of reality is not a personal or literal exp, only if its held up to the screen too closely where we have to be stressed in that way. But thats much like anything, like when we are solving problems, we dont always wanna go full tilt observing the details in detail, its only if we need to really stress that area, putting all of our attention on it—also, that area isnt tied to what we do, like, even in the rare case of it all falling apart, its not like its falling apart predictably, atleast, not in a way that wouldve helped to prevent it if u know wat i mean, like, we are all in a long winded state of falling apart, its just that its so ambient you dont tell, and the details themselves dont really spell out like, "this is what it is...", so its open ended in all foreseeable directions (p.s. i guess i see now how like, one part is called the strategy, and the other.. whatever the other1 is... im gettin lost in how many pages there are on the subject of logic, as theres extra pages i hadnt read before—as they tie into all types of things)

im never-not scared of music and everything, and so i just put a pile of blue colored things near me and stare into that for awhile, and if they have polkadots thats better somehow. but everything else, like scary psychedelic pictures (that arent really representative of anything psychedelic, since a million shades of colors that dont match - isnt the same as colors changing to various solid colors) and tv's and computers are also like, giant amalgamations of things that dont really match or make sense. id prolly do that, a lazy, less scared version of everything - staring at nothing, listening to nothing (unless its like salvia where u need music to help you through it) p.s. at high doses ive hallucinated sounds, and so without the presence of music or not—either way, there will be sounds present imo, plus, what you see ends up feeling very loud like u heard it, and that whole mess of things, so things are very busy. you can taste what you hear.

what if you could go back in time and experience it all from the point a decade ago. Ppl woulda been very confused. its like, the fusing of two worlds separated through time... spirituality can be indicative of the time that separates us, it could be about whatever you want it to be.