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I wanted to share my experience with Joe Dispenza’s meditations, specifically the Blessing of the Energy Centers (BOTEC), I did 15 days straight of it (also I want to specify that I've been meditating for over 4 or 5 years on my own now). I’m posting this both to document what happened and to get some of your perspective, and I would love to know if anyone has experience with Dispenza's work. So, I started reading Becoming Supernatural and began doing the meditations he recommends. I did BOTEC 1 but didn’t like it much, it felt slow and I struggled to go deep so then I switched to BOTEC 2 and began doing it daily (also for more context: I’m in Italy with family, working/studying, so mornings were usually my only window. At times I had sleep issues, headaches, hunger, distractions, etc. I also started doing morning pages (3 pages) daily and some yoga) This first day with BOTEC 2 was the most intense. At some point, especially around the later centers, I started going very deep. I felt something like waves moving through me. Not “in my head” but more like my whole body awareness became the waves, like I was the waves. There was also this sense of expansion, like I was getting bigger as the waves became bigger. It’s hard to explain because it felt like I don’t have a body, but at the same time I did have it; the normal boundaries of the body became strange and soft. My mind was not silent though. It was running commentary: excitement, wanting to share it, wanting to analyze it (“tell someone, tell ChatGPT to understand it better so I can go deeper next time”), and at the same time I tried to let thoughts be. I also noticed some physical stuff, like the diaphragm breathing felt a bit blocked around the “third center” area, and if I tried to adjust breathing, I became overly body-conscious and the depth reduced. Also noise in the environment pulled me out, the music felt loud aand intense at times, I still felt some shoulder/neck tension, even in deep relaxation. Near the end I opened my eyes a few minutes early and I felt emotional, almost teary, not from sadness, more like being touched by something. Then the next days: some of them were very easy, some were resistant,I struggled with focus especially when sleep was poor and I had headaches. But my body almost always reached deep relaxation, I didn’t get the very deep altered-state effects like day 1, and I noticed that I had an attachment to that depth.Then today: Day 15 (Dec 22): I was unfocused for much of the meditation, but after reaching the later center(s), I went deeper into relaxation. Then I had another distinct experience: it felt like a spiraling, gentle, wave-like sensation entering through my mouth ,not like the day 1 waves, but a sensation I recognized. It moved very slowly and gently, first into my head and then down through my torso and the whole body. It felt like my body was being filled with something: very light, but also “dense”, not like liquid, butmore like “expanded and full”. I didn’t leave my body, but my body sensations became very light like I was “freed from the body” while still being in it. It was pleasant and peaceful. The first day and today I was sitting on the chair, other times I also laid down on my bed. I’m open to Dispenza’s methods as a structured practice, and I like his book (and I have to say that since I started doing the meditations, daily journaling and yoga I'm feeling pretty good) but I’m also skeptical about the scientific framing, especially the quantum language and big claims. In general I don’t want to blindly believe the narrative because the experiences feel meaningful, or dismiss everything as “self-deception” and become cynical. Do you have experience with his meditations?

The last week I had a terrible pain in my left ear, I imagined it was because of some earwax stuck there. I thought it would pass but it didn’t. For some miracle, scrolling around Leo’s blog I saw he wrote about the otoscope and I decided to buy a cheap one (18€). It arrived 1 hour ago, and it was extremely useful, my ear is now super clean and in less than 30 min my ear pain and headache are completely gone, after a week of pain! Thank you leo

I would say that if you feel safe then you can do it. If I don’t feel safe I just skip it

I don't mean to attack or offend, I'm just saying my opinion. But as I said before, you are just looking at life from your own little perspective, and what you wish for is a fantasy created to please your ego. Again, I'm not attacking, everybody's ego doesn't want war, rape, suffering, etc (well, the majority of egos, not every). But still, I believe heaven can be found within this life no matter what it is

man go read any book about bacteria... you wouldn't be alive without them

also, it's not possible to live without hurting other beings. just by going for a walk you're killing tens, if not hundreds (or more) insects, your body is constantly killing bacteria etc. Your definition of "good" and "heaven" are not possible, they are 100% based on your own survival agenda.

@Meeksauce True, god is not What Leo talks about goes beyond the human (and ego-based) definition of "good".

I take it regularly, it really helps me with my brain fog!

I didn’t read the book, but the fact that it has Christian language and it was “dictated” by Jesus Christ makes me kind of skeptical. Have you read it? What do you think about it?

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I see. The fact that osho was sick and not actively involved with those things, could just be an excuse. Of course I don’t know, but all those things he said afterwards about Shila could be true, but also not, just trying to protect his image. I don’t know, but I was disappointed seeing osho involved with this kind of “petty human bullshit”, quoting Leo

I have been listening to Osho and reading some of his books for like a year now. I am not a follower but his teachings really touched me deeply. when I learned more about him and what he did, it really made me sad. I couldn’t believe it, or maybe I didn’t want to. I guess there’s no “perfect” enlightened human being

Nope

Prompt: What is the best book I can read that serves as a kind of "Bible" for how to live life fully? I don’t just mean spiritual enlightenment or mindfulness, but how to live life in the real world — to play the game of society (money, relationships, purpose, creativity, career, etc.) while staying deeply present and mindful, like Osho or Eckhart Tolle describe. I don’t necessarily want a book from them, but rather the best possible book that integrates both outer success and inner peace, with practical and deep guidance. What book would you recommend that captures this balance better than any other? ChatGPT response: The book you're describing — one that merges inner mastery (presence, peace, meaning) with outer mastery (wealth, relationships, creativity, purpose) — is rare, but it does exist. The most complete and profound integration of these two dimensions that I can recommend is: "The Great Work of Your Life" by Stephen Cope Why this book? It’s grounded in the Bhagavad Gita, but adapted for modern Western life, showing how to live with purpose and presence. Cope analyzes the lives of figures like Thoreau, Jane Goodall, Beethoven, and Gandhi, exploring how they aligned inner clarity with outer impact. It doesn’t preach enlightenment detached from the world — instead, it guides you to find and live your dharma (your unique contribution) while staying grounded and present. Deeply spiritual and radically practical. --- If you want other top-tier contenders, here are a few that come close: 1. "Mastery" by George Leonard Explores how presence, discipline, and love for the process create a fulfilled life. Written by an Aikido master, blending mindfulness with high performance. 2. "The 7 Spiritual Laws of Success" by Deepak Chopra Short, profound, and practical — each law links consciousness with real-world outcomes. 3. "The Artist’s Way" by Julia Cameron Especially good if you value creativity, spirituality, and self-expression. Emphasizes daily habits, self-discovery, and reclaiming joy in your work and relationships. 4. "Way of the Superior Man" by David Deida Polarizing, but powerful. Speaks to how to live purposefully and navigate love, sex, and power while staying anchored in presence. --- If you're looking for something even deeper and more radical: "Letting Go" by David R. Hawkins Teaches how to dissolve internal blocks to success, love, and peace. Spiritual in tone, but the technique of “surrender” applies to everything — career, ambition, emotional struggle. --- Summary For your purpose — balancing deep inner presence with full outer engagement — my #1 recommendation is: > “The Great Work of Your Life” by Stephen Cope It's accessible, wise, practical, and bridges ancient truth with modern struggle. If you want to live fully awake in the real world — not escape it — this book delivers. Grok Response: The Road Less Traveled by M. Scott Peck stands out as the best book for integrating outer success and inner peace with practical and deep guidance. Peck, a psychiatrist, blends psychological insight, spiritual wisdom, and real-world pragmatism to address how to live fully in society while staying mindful and grounded.The book is structured around four pillars: discipline, love, growth, and grace. These cover the "game of society" you mentioned—money, relationships, purpose, creativity, and career—while emphasizing inner presence akin to Osho or Tolle. For example:Discipline offers tools like delayed gratification and responsibility, crucial for career and financial success, but frames them as paths to mental clarity and mindfulness.Love redefines relationships as acts of courage and growth, balancing emotional depth with practical boundaries.Growth tackles purpose and creativity through psychological and spiritual evolution, encouraging authenticity in a competitive world.Grace connects to a broader sense of meaning, fostering inner peace without detaching from real-world demands.Unlike purely spiritual texts, Peck’s work is grounded in case studies from his practice, making it actionable for navigating societal pressures. It avoids dogmatic spirituality, focusing instead on universal principles that resonate whether you’re chasing ambition or seeking presence. Readers on X and web reviews often praise its balance of hard truths and compassionate wisdom, calling it a “manual for life” that’s both challenging and uplifting.No book is perfect, and some find Peck’s style dense or his Christian undertones less universal, but its depth and practicality make it unmatched for your request. If you want a single “Bible” for living fully—mastering society’s game while staying deeply present—this is it.

Might still be alive then so I can read it

In my opinion it's not about twin flames, they don't exist, even if you might feel that way. It's about the people you meet in your life, and realizing that everyone plays a specific role, that helps you shape the person you are and will be. A twin flame is probably when you have enough experience, and you know what in a person resonates with you and what doesn't, and that twin flame will help you shape yourself to something that you want to be. But maybe idk what I'm telling about

Has anyone tried this course? Is it good?

I take daily supplements like reishi, lions mane, vitamin D (I have a slight deficiency), and some Chinese herbs like Buzhong Qi Chi Yan and Whuolo Yan (I think these are the names, probably misspelled) I started reading about L-Theanine and it's benefits so I gave it a try. After 1 week or 10 days I felt my mind was super active every day, but in a very distracting way. It was very difficult to focus on anything, whether is a simple task, guitar practice, reading, meditating... My mind was just thinking so much about random stuff. I stopped taking it 2 days ago and I already feel better. Do you also have a similar experience with this supplement?

I have never been vegan, idk why you would assume my ideologies and what I can understand or not. I see his point, but the fact that eating meat every day makes him feel good it doesn't mean that is a healthy diet.

Why is that?

Well if health comes first then don't eat meat every day, the one we buy in the supermarkets harms the body

We don't have to go to pre - industrial age to stop polluting

@integral climate change is a real problem already, we are not in the point of no return yet, but we're getting close.

@Michael569 thank you! Yeah I've been taking all the rest for some time, and I started feeling like this with l theanine

Carnivore diet supports environmental damage... I understand that you're not concerned about your health, but the problem is bigger.