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The IDF military is unique in its consciousness level. It's a unicorn in the middle east and perhaps in the entire world.
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Lila9 replied to Whitney Edwards's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
The pro-palestinian students attacked pro-Israel and Jewish students and justified Hamas' terror attacks. -
If Ukraine was as strong/developed as south Korea, a cold war between Ukraine and Russia would have been a reasonable possibility. But from what it looks like, Putin doesn't look like he's going to give up until he gets the entire Ukraine. He doesn't consider Ukraine as something that deserves soverty or separate identification, in his mind it's part of Russia.
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Famous Saudi blogger about Palestinians:
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I can't 😂
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Some humour 😂
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Aren't you projecting?
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The scope of this massacre is unknown, it's estimated to be between a few dozens to a few hundreds. Also, this was made by a small military division which most of them were former Jews terrorists who joined to the military, it didn't represent the agenda of the military and this massacre was criticized by the military. It's clear that the Nakba is considered a disaster by the Palestinians, something bad and terrible that happened to them by Jews. Perhaps there are attempts to compare it to the holocaust. However, from historical pov, there was a war between Arabs and Jews on territory that was British at that time and the Jews won.
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Yes, it was carried out by a group of Jewish terrorists (as defined by the British Mandate) before the Arab-Israeli war on May 14, 1948. They were considered extremities (called "Haezel") who believed in claiming the land through acts of terror against Arabs and British people. However, this does not represent the way Jews fought against Arabs in 1948, which was simply a war of the Jews moderate military "Hahagna" (which evolved to IDF) and Arabs of Israel, including Arabs from Lebanon, Iraq, the Muslim Brotherhood organization, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt.
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"You will say that what Hitler did to you was a joke - come on, we are waiting for you" Palestinian political activist Ahed Tamimi said. That's when you are raised since birth to hate Jews instead love, co-existence and peace. This is what Israeli soliders are dealing with on the west bank every day, this exact kind of hate, violence and death threats and this is what they are responding to. https://m.jpost.com/arab-israeli-conflict/article-771102
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This ZAKA guy talked about bodies that look tortured, it can be done in various ways, it can be done by burning and it can be done by shooting the body many times until it unrecognizable. It was admitted by the arrested Hamas terrorists that they shotcivilians many times and burned homes, look at the longer version of the interviews I shared above.
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You are naive for believing that Hamas are nice people. They themselves confessed about the horrible things they did on the 7th of October: Edit: This is the full version of the interviews:
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What about "Pallywood"? People in Gaza actively faking death and injury? And what about the Al Madani hospital that was bombed by the Islamic Jihad but Hamas automatically blamed Israel? It makes me wonder about how many deaths in Gaza were blamed on Israel while it wasn't Israel's falut? I understand that people share propaganda from both sides but there are different types of propaganda, some of them are more rooted in reality than others while some of them are completely twisted from reality. And given the level of development of each side, for me, the propaganda of Hamas seems much less reliable than the one of the IDF.
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Most people choose sides and most of the people who say they don't chose side, are either don't know much about the conflict, lie to appear more open, or not aware to that they have already chose side. I can see and understand both perspectives and empathize with people on the human level, yet, I choose to support one above the other, because it more represents my values and world view, especially when their value system has more integrity than of the other side.
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It's hard for me to believe that they would lie about such things. On the other hand, it seems for me that you consider everything they say as questionable, while when there is report about 2000 children killed in Gaza you automatically believe.
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This guy is not just a random guy from the street but he is volunteering in ZAKA which is an organization in Israel which evacuating these bodies and he shares his experience, what he have seen. There are many photos on the internet, of burned people and babies, video tours of dead bodies laying, I don't think it's allowed to share such things here but if you want to find it, use Google and you will get there. If you don't want to believe to it, then no matter what evidence you will be presented with, you will not believe to it so it's useless to even try and convince you that this has happened. People deny Holocaust until these days, you know, and there is lot of evidence for it in writing, pictures and videos. People also deny the level of cruelty 6 millions Jews were murdered by, or deny that the number was actually 6 millions. There are many Jewish holocaust survivors who talk openly about horrible things that happened to them during the Holocaust, and yet, some people would still deny this and will not believe them.
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Are you talking seriously or it's a sarcastic remark? And yes the history is more complex and nuanced than it might appear.
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Hamas attack: 80% of bodies were tortured:
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Shani Louk's death has been confirmed after her family believed she was alive and heavily injured in Gaza's hospital which happen to be a false report:
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In the meantime, Hamas is bombing Israel non-stop and targeting hospitals in Israel. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzJcxoyokyW/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
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Children are the most vulnarble population for such Islamic, anti Israel, radical ideas.
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100%
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No, I'm saying that other Arab countries don't want them because they make troubles in other Arab countries as well.
