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The question is clear: Can a person with a low IQ develop themselves, explore truth and achieve self-actualization? Jordan Peterson suggests that individuals with lower IQs should align with mainstream conservative values, as this may help them avoid complications in life. He argues that those who are less intelligent should not think for themselves because they end up thinking badly. However, considering that thinking is essential for contemplation: is it possible for someone with a low IQ to think independently, align their life with truth, and actualise themselves?

@mmKay I'm still in the middle its so not cool dawg

Okay, I slept on it and this is my decision. I will forcefully put myself in the neurotic fight or flight state to get some work done because honestly I don't know how else I will pass my exams. I'll do this for a couple days and report on my progress.

@QVx Nah bro, I was actually referring to the pursuit of truth in general—avoiding biases, understanding complex systems, and grasping epistemic truth. I think it's reasonable to assume that someone with a high IQ might be better equipped to interpret and understand the truth, like their trips and so forth.

@Leo Gura ahhh we cooked. We do all this development to be rats lmao.

@QVx Here's something that really bothers me: People with an IQ of 150 often think they understand a lot about the world because they’re comparing themselves to someone who knows far less. But imagine an entity with an IQ of 1000—how would they perceive our so-called geniuses with a 150 IQ? So, at what point does your IQ actually allow you to grasp the truth?

@Leo Gura IQ of 95 slightly below average. Would this person do you think be able to create a subjecting amazing life and contribute to the world if he/she implements your advice. Do you think this person would even be able to contemplate and learn the right lessons from your videos. I mean at some level he/she has to trust themselves that they even understand your message completely.

@oldhandle I feel like you'll get motivation to start the business after you start it. Kinda got to hold your feet against the fire.

Big bro is strategic ahahaha

Whenever I feel like I am gaslighting myself, I really hate it, I revolt against it as much as possible. For instance, if I feel as if I'm gaslighting myself into thinking that all you need to get woman is game, then I tend to look for counter-evidence because I really hate the idea of being a victim to my biases. This is what happened, I fell into the blackpill rabbit hole. It's very difficult to argue against blackpill because they have statistics on their side, and I feel every personal experience I had with woman can be both explained in terms of black pill or game (oh she left you because she found someone who looked better, or oh she left you because you showed her too much attention). I've been starting to watch videos like this. This guy is a full on black pill, talks about genetic pre-determinism, and how self improvement as a whole is just a massive cope. I don't want to believe that self actualising is a cope, I also don't want to gaslight myself. How would you argue against these people, I mean there are probably guys that did the work and didn't get the results. I'm writing this because to maybe get some closure, so someone can give me an actually solid argument against this shit. I want to know the reality, I don't want false hope. For me its just shocking, if the truth isn't blackpill, then why are so many men who even had success with woman start to agree with the blackpill. Another YouTuber Jacked and Stacked, a man who had success with woman started basing all his content around how self improvement is just a massive scam. He explains how even though everyone should to self improvement, you'll probably never reach your big goals. It's just not probable. Crazy thing is I don't have an argument against it. The new blackpill isn't just on looks and dating. It's the idea that self improvement is just a massive grift. It's fake hope. I don't understand why people would gain this perspective if it wasn't the truth.

You dislike everyone ahahahaha

As we already know, every decision in life is based on incomplete information. In order to make decisions and orient yourself appropriately, it seems crucial to form solid opinions about the world. I realise that sometimes in my life I don't form opinions about certain things and remain agnostic out of fear, probably because I don't want to be wrong. It is difficult for me to know when I have enough information to commit to an idea. When is it appropriate to be agnostic and when is it not? How do I know if I am agnostic out of fear, or because I genuinely don't have enough information? Your response is kindly appreciated.

Yea see I agreed with that until recently, because not committing to an idea means you're still agnostic in some level. I feel like you have to commit to some ideas, and not doing so is just a sign that your afraid of being wrong and having to change your ideas later. For example, spiritual teachers believe in non-duality. I don't think it's right to say that they don't have enough experience or contemplation to commit to that claim. But maybe there's a possibility above non-duality that they're missing out on. They can never know until they garner more experience. But to remain agnostic even after experiencing non-duality, to me seems like your just afraid of having to change your beliefs after. Thanks for your response, I hope I articulated my point correctly.

I've noticed a recurring pattern: most people don't put in nearly as much work as successful individuals. For instance, Leo often advises people to simply do more when they ask him how to achieve success in a certain domain. Alex Hormozi has similar advice. The amount of work Alex Hormozi puts in compared to other business owners is incredible. The gap between how much work you think is enough and how much you actually need to do is huge. I went to college and I studied with some straight A students. Some students were naturally smart and got it faster. Some students just did so much volume, no wonder they succeeded. I was astonished to realise that the work I thought was enough was barely enough. I think that's why most people aren't successful. They aren't doing the reps. This got me thinking: how do you recognize if the reason you're not getting results is due to the amount of work you're putting in or the method you're using? How much effort should you invest to truly gauge the effectiveness of your method? Looking forward to your insights!

@MarioGabrielJ I really hate this sort of response. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but your response isn't helpful for most people. At the start, before you have any experiences, the self absolutely exists; you are the center of your experience (that's where I am right now). In those early stages, you pretty much have no choice but to assume that the world around you and deterministic materialism are real. All this no-self stuff seems like spiritual mumbo jumbo to me—just a possibility until I experience it. Under the materialistic paradigm, there's absolutely no free will. Even from personal experience, thoughts just seem to appear out of nowhere. I think many spiritual teachers fail in guiding the learning process. It's not enough to just say there's a possibility to experience no-self, which changes the entire meaning of the question. It's more useful to help people integrate their current understanding into their lives so they can progress in the future. For two years, I struggled because I couldn't accept the idea of no free will. Now that I've accepted it, I'm more able to dive into understanding the self. The no-free-will existential crisis is terrible because it causes constant cognitive dissonance. You realize that whether you self-actualize or not isn't your choice, which really messed me up and made it hard to work productively for a long time. But now that I've accepted it as my current worldview, I'm open to new experiences. It's crucial to help people understand and accept their current truth. If they don't, they'll seek evidence to support their existing beliefs rather than searching for the truth without bias. Accepting no free will, if that's your current understanding, is essential. Only by accepting it can one remain open to truly exploring and discovering the truth.

ok, yea I'm maybe thinking of doing a trip or participating in a travel group.

Hey everyone, I need some advice on a personal challenge I've been facing. I have a tendency to impulsively overshare, often revealing things about myself (and sometimes others) that shouldn't be shared. This habit has landed me in trouble multiple times. Each time, I think the pain of the consequences would prevent me from making the same mistake again, but unfortunately, that's not the case. Recently, I found myself in a situation where, under the slightest pressure, I overshared again. It only hit me afterward how bad my decision was, and I'm at a loss on how to handle this issue effectively. Despite being aware of the problem and deciding not to overshare, I end up doing it anyway. This impulsive behavior not only affects me but also endangers others involved. I thought I had fixed it, but clearly, I haven't. I'm looking for any advice or strategies that could help me tackle this problem from different angles because mere awareness doesn't seem to be enough. I have a feeling that I trust people too easily. I think maybe that is the root cause. or that also I realise that I like the attention that this specific incident that I overshare about gets me. Has anyone else faced a similar issue? How did you manage to overcome it? Any tips or techniques to curb this impulsive behavior would be greatly appreciated.

This video was promised after the how to get laid guide. I'm super interested in Leo's take on this topic, and his personal anecdotal experiences. David Deida has written a lot about it, would love to see if some of these concepts has worked with other people.

This is so true. I reflected on your message. I think the emotion I feel is also more that the person won't like me from telling them the truth + guilt and regret. I've taken a personality test and have scored 95th percentile in Neuroticism, so yea I do have OCD tendencies. I'm not industrious at all though so not a perfectionist. I am interested in learning more and will PM you.

This sums up my problem. As I am thinking more about it, I think it's defenitly possible that people pleasing is also a possible root cause. I fold under pressure because maybe I feel as though me telling them a truth about a situation makes them like me more. I think this issue might be so deep that I am willing to endanger other peoples privacy to satisfy this need. I am hypothesising here but it's possible.

I am trying journaling aswell, as of now I am doing Jordan Peterson's self authoring program. I think I'll be able to find and understand the problem in greater depth once I analyse my past and myself. I will try to find a solution to the problem for sure.

I really want to give people context but I can't repeat the mistake again ahahaha

I think it's the fact that there is a shock factor in the story. It's spicy asf.

I've been thinking about it a lot. There's defenitly several underlying issues here. I think also a huge problem for me now is trusting myself. The problem I face basically is parrelel to someone saying " I cheated on my partner several times, I made the commitment not to do it again but did it anyway" and now obviously I stop having the capability of trusting my self. Cheating was not the situation at hand here, but now I do somewhat understand people who have a problem cheating in the sense that for some reason it's very hard for them not to fold under pressure. There has to be an underlying reason, some root issue that can be fixed. I'm doing all I can to fix this. I can't let this happen. I have to get this under control. Maybe I have to fix the root cause of thrill seeking and giving into temptation.

I rather not go into specifics, it's not a traumatic event. It's a social taboo.