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Intellectual integrous individual (my understanding): Individuals that have minimal biases, hypocrisy, ideology in their ideas and work. People who actually value truth rather than just want to be right. I'm confused about whether I should consider viewpoints from people with low intellectual integrity. I read that Leo completely discards viewpoints from creators or authors who lack intellectual integrity. But at the same time, in his advice for young people video, he encourages taking in different perspectives. How can I embrace different perspectives when many come from individuals with low intellectual identity? It also seems to me that very few people are fully intellectually honest, as they might be unknowingly influenced by ideology in subtle ways (examples being Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson). What is the minimum standard of intellectual integrity I should look for when deciding whether to listen to someone and take in their perspectives? I have recently become more aware on how the media that I consume affects my daily life and decisions, I want to completely eliminate perspectives that hurt me (like blackpill) while also maintaining a healthy variety of perspectives for my growth.

I suspect that there are serious limitations with the advice "think for yourself, don't take anything as dogma". In my life currently, I feel as though I know too little to make any conclusions with any major degree of certainty, and surrendering to "not knowing" is not practical and makes it difficult to move forward. In addition to that, especially in the beginning (when focused on surviving), since you don't know anything about the world, the conclusions you form seem to heavily be affected by your emotions namely fear (personally happening to me) (which ironically leads you to become ideological). Another thing worth mentioning is that people that are less intelligent "think badly" and end up with poor conclusions, and so it is wise for them align themselves with semi conservative crowd as suggested my Jordan Peterson (I think this isn't bad advice). I'm very inclined to purposefully put faith into teachings from people who I intuit are good, so that I can actually move on in my life. I don't like being stuck and confused, I don't want to continue struggling to make decisions. My life recently has shown me that questioning everything and being anti-dogma is very difficult when your trying to survive and succeed, it's seems most appropriate to search for truth after you have some success surviving. What do you guys think? Is my thinking correct? Add more important thoughts? I appreciate it.

In order to become a mature person, I have to go through these experiences

Full disclosure my previous post was because I have very little belief in myself because of blackpill ideology, and I feel as if the only way to get me working is by making it acceptable for me to work even if I fail. Idk how to get out of thus. Logically why I don't believe in myself doesn't make sense but I feel like this regardless. I guess I am starting to realize that I cant fake maturity, that I have to go through this process of self-doubt. I have to experience life more. I have to allow myself to experience life more rather than just be stuck up with getting things right.

@ChrisZoZo I know I shoudln't be as neurotic but it's hard not to when my survival is at stake.

I agree with you, but it’s also important to consider that the other sources you check might share the same biases as the original one. Even when you search for different perspectives, the answers might still be similar because they come from the same cultural or ideological background, carrying the same biases. I think you're right. It's probably important to explore sources from different fields or cultures. For example, two psychologists might have similar opinions on solving a problem, but a psychologist and a successful entrepreneur could have radically different views because they come from different experiences and backgrounds. It’s not the best example, but you get the idea.

@Leo Gura Can't wait for the video. I just read your blog post about social systems. Very interested on the insights you have on how to study ideology and social systems in the best way. I have personal experienced difficulties you describe in the blog when watching blackpill content. It's like you don't truly understand what they are saying until you immerse yourself in the content itself. But at that point, you can see yourself starting to actively defend blackpill worldview, even if that's at the expense of your development. Also, fascism and racism is somewhat on the rise in Europe, one of my best friends, as great as he is, is very ideological and is incredibly anti-migrant. I can see how belief systems like Fascism have spread, I even know because I am in so close proximity to him, how it feels to be very racist. It's the exact same thing. It feels as thought you can only truly understand fascism and racism as an ideology at the expense of becoming ideological.

This. Sooo hard to do. Great reply, I can defenitly relate.

That’s so true! I totally get what Leo is saying. I remember watching blackpill ideology, and it felt really strange. I kept feeling like I was avoiding it, but at the same time, I knew that the more I exposed myself to it and tried to understand it, the more I risked becoming indoctrinated.

I agree that the process of finding intellectually integrous content is easy, but I think there are certain hallmarks for low quality information. Like ideology for example, there are hallmarks or patterns that exist in every ideology that makes it easy to identify and discard.

@Scholar Yes I agree, self-deception is a bitch. I am becoming aware of that more and more.

@Princess Arabia Surely, every idea I have is partly a repetition of something I've heard before. What I meant to ask is, when do you rely on your own logical reasoning? I also read your response again, but I don’t quite understand what you mean by "inner guidance." It seems like any thought could be labeled as inner guidance. You and Leo talk about intuition and inner guidance as if they are real, but to me, it just feels like emotion. That same inner guidance could tell me something completely different tomorrow. Also I appreciate your responses, you responded to a lot of threads, and you write well. Thanks.

I am either going to be massively successful, or will live in denial for the rest of my life. I accept that. I'll get successful or die trying.

Just got soft rejected by a girl. Ouch.

I am going restrict and heavily control my social media diet. Self trust seems to be key for entrepreneurial endeavors. I am only going to watch Euntraprenuerial content. Things like school of hard knocks.

A lot of cool things pointing me into becoming an euntrapreneur today. I won't say anything because I am supersitous. I might share the aftermath, but I am actually superstitious and I want to make this work so.

If he can do it, I can do it.

Things that happened while I was gone 1. Went on national television 2. Met so many new friends in uni 3. Met some girls that I might go for 4. Parents are buying new house, saw that it's great. The previous owners are very nice. 5. Today I met a guy in uni who makes a fuck ton of money as an entrepreneur like I think over 6 figures. It's really inspiring, because we talk in the same wavelength, I enjoy talking to him, we talked about a lot of things. It's super inspiring because now I see it in myself to be able to run a successful business aswell. Its awesome. 6. Keeping in touch with my old friends, I know a lot of people now damn today was good, meeting someone that's actually successful was so cool, we talk like the same, its awesome, we talk incredibly ADHD. We talked for a couple hours. After this I kind of believe in myself more. Maybe I can do it aswell.

@Yimpa

Hey guys I am back. Uni started, a lot going on in my life. I strongly suspect that I have an incredibly strong victim mindset, especially when it comes to dating. Blackpill has poisoned my mind, and I am unable to break free of that completely. There are many men in my life that are not conventionally attractive at all and have good looking girlfriends. Despite this glaring proof, its hard to shift my mind completely. So I watched thus video: This video made me realize how important understanding self-deception is when trying to self actualize. I mean, I am dealing with these problems FIRST HAND. I am actively suffering from my minds self deception, and I now see how the mind can self sabotage you if you let it. It's actually crazy. I realize that understanding self-deception is foundational. I cant accurately assess and understand the world around me if I keep getting deceived by my mind. Now I realize how important this topic is. I didn't before and as a result I am suffering. I will dedicate my time into understanding self-deception because now I understand that if I don't grasp the ways my mind fucks me then I can kiss truth goodbye.

great response! I completely agree with everything you said. I just have one question: You mentioned that it doesn't make sense to reinvent the wheel. In your own life, do you tend to think for yourself more, or do you find yourself absorbing the teachings of others more often? Additionally, when do you think it's best to rely solely on your own thoughts and perspectives?

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Yes I don't. Why should I. I become mega ideological and make bad decisions because Im scared.

Yea but everyone does that anyway. You're basically saying (if I understand correctly) that everyone has their own way of learning and you should follow your intuition. Most people just follow intuition and what they feel will be good for them. Most people still end up retarded.