Devin

Find a sport you're interested in, preferably coed in your area, join a coed sport group, just start with hi how are you to a cashier/server and build up your relational skills from there. You'll get there, I swear to you anyone can, you'll laugh looking back at this with joy for what you're gaining through this struggle

? I still think we're still right on topic

That's fine, I won't bother you, didn't mean to

I'm talking about the physical world, nothing spiritual, how you experience the physical world, sex

They're not strictly entangled with mental imagery or abstraction, is my point, you can just feel Part of your mind you can't access with language(understanding)

I don't mean emotions(anger, happiness, sadness) At all

Yes but "thinking" is limited by language and imagery/sounds/tastes and further limited by your proficiency in language and what you have seen/heard, feeling has no limits

Who gave us the name "wise thinking man"?, there may have been some bias Feeling is far richer

I'd say you can take it even further and say I'm not even a hairless monkey. I don't mean to not interact with the world, I would say I mean the opposite, fantasy is not interacting with the world it's the opposite, you're not actually experiencing it

But we recognize the clothes aren't us, well most of us do anyway I don't mean in a natural way, I mean a conscious way, your monkey example I think makes my point

Because I love the peace But no, it's not like that, we don't say English language is who I am like we do with sexuality, we see it's something apart from us

That fantasies and fetishes are not ours in the original sense, they're from deceptions we believe. Sex is ours though, purely Some fetishes can be as well

It's more like saying dinner can be with a show

"basic" sex

Yeah, it's fair to say semantics but I think there is a more profound meaning here that's being hidden by fetishes and fantasies Well hopefully if we come full circle it won't seem like I'm attacking her, I think I'm just attacking the idea not the person but I'm tired, just woke up in middle of the night and checked my phone

I'm not saying what you do is wrong, I just don't think you know your sexuality

Experiencing and expressing yourself sexually. Fantasies and fetishes are just during sex, but they're purely superficial, they're not sex

No you wouldn't say ours either. Fantasies and fetishes aren't sexuality

Because you wouldn't have fetishes and fantasies without the outside world Just look at how you wrote the previous post, you said "my" sexuality, "my" fetishes and fantasies It's from fear, otherwise they wouldn't be "yours"

I don't think that's sexuality at all, that's all ego

Your sexuality

@Tyler Robinson I can masturbate easily and I haven't looked at porn in years, and it's a much better and fulfilling experience now. Also, there are girls that orgasm quicker than me (male). I thought most girls can cum in a few minutes

I don't see where anyone is recommending semen retention here, porn and masturbation don't have to go hand in hand ?

Many women don't mind too much that their man watches porn I think if the woman was far enough along it wouldn't bother her, she seems in the middle of this and the former and likely won't get to a point where she wouldn't get bothered by it, he will probably out grow this though. I'm sure many men especially on here wouldn't want to be with a woman that watches porn though. I don't think it has to do with sexism. I'm monogamous but I actually wouldn't be hurt if I was cheated on either, so I don't think I'm a good litmus test. I love the idea of growing with someone through those relatively difficult things, most people have too much ego to deal with that much though.

Tolle too, says something like just observe them and let them pass they're not you. You should care in a way though, not letting them be used to make decisions though, they're usually something unprocessed in your subconscious mind poking out. Ignoring them sounds like resistance to me, the opposite of what Leo said