Devin

to me you're sounding very contradictory , you say this below and then state concepts as reality, to me it's evident you're doing what you call "confusing conceptual content with reality" i just figured you'd appreciate it if i pointed out possible 'blind spots', as you call them and this makes what your saying not make much sense to me, you state something as not to do, but then you do it in the next sentence. Again, to me it's like you're superimposing one belief over another, switching back and forth mid thought, I'm just pointing out inconsistencies that i believe are what is confusing me about what you're saying.

okay, but suffering is a concept, along with solipsism, and communication

our consciousness definition discrepancies are FAR from a word game, our definitions are almost completely opposite both of your examples are concepts/beliefs that you believe are true #1-why is that 'harmful'? #2-how do you know there even is communication?

we disagree on the definition of consciousness but I'll set that aside, I've stated my grievance on that. here are some beliefs/concepts in this post you appear to be unaware of -you say the concepts become harmless. How are they harmful? -you say we need concepts in our everyday life. How do you know what will happen if we don't use concepts, you believe or conceptualize something will happen i think you're stuck in concepts and beliefs, thinking they are true, even though you're saying not to.

@Strannik "conscious experience is a type of knowing, direct experiential knowing" would saying this be the same thing "conscious experience(being) is having no knowing(concepts/beliefs)"?

it seems pretty clear to me you're talking about direct experience, not consciousness

conscious experience would be the absence of any knowing(or knowing everything depending on how you want to say it) not a kind of knowing. I think you have it pretty much backwards, you're believing a concept of consciousness

i didn't say nor mean your experience isn't real, the problem is the 'knowing' I'm not regurgitating Leo's teachings either, I'm sure he wouldn't say what I'm saying

no, anything you 'know' by direct experience is an illusion, a concept

i haven't seen anyone here argue that, I'd say almost the opposite was alluded

your use of the term 'know' again you can't know your direct experience in the same way you're using the term know when it comes to knowing what consciousness is that's like flying to the moon on a... shoe.. or even a better example, a verb. Or saying this shape is purple

your use of the term consciousness is what i would label as 'direct experience', not consciousness, that's within consciousness

i think you're viewing consciousness as a 'thing'

aren't you stating that as an absolute truth the disconnect i have with what you're saying is when it comes to 'knowing' and 'truth' "what if nothing we can know is absolutely true other than a simple and bare given experiential fact of:" -Strannik that knowing is no-ing; it's finite, 'relative'. do you need to identify/use something as a "relative truth" for "being useful or practical", no, that's being lazy and not in a beneficial way. "Things tend to fall down, we call this gravity", we don't have to say "gravity makes everything fall back to earth" i think you're superimposing your idea of 'truth' and 'knowing'

well, i would say i covered this in my first post, it's less like saying this is true and more like saying everything else is obviously not true. see my first post again on 'no-ing'

i promise I'm not trolling you; consider 'people' as a concept, i don't mean what you're experiencing isn't real. Try to find where one person ends and another begins, and contemplate why/how you determine that border/boundary where one person ends..

yes, that's all 'an abstract idea'/ 'conceptual', that's not 'being' or 'infinity'. Consider time being a concept

@sda awesome, have fun sda

i think it's a quality post @Strannik consider infinity, if any concept is true, that would be/mean finite. 'Being' is infinite. Knowledge as in knowing something, would mean something(the anti of what you 'know') isn't possible, would mean finite, it's 'No-ing'. Knowing sort of implies you gain something, but in reality it's just sectioning off a piece of infinity, knowing is 'no-ing', to know something is to 'no' the anti of what you 'know'.

so long as the drama is not so prevalent that it is very overwhelming for you, you can take those instances to practice your self control, to work on 'responding rather than reacting' it's an exercise to flesh out the ego, it can help teach you how to be able to enjoy everything rather than being ran over by negative emotions. But if you're overwhelmed yeah you need reprieve, don't waste your money, save up, move on and or work on the other areas in your life, if you get solid in the other parts of your life you can handle a lot more in this area

i think LOA is more like getting out of your own way. People tend to think negatively, catastrophize, etc.; LOA gives you a reason, a security blanket, to let go of holding yourself back.

a bit contradictory; states 'knowns', then says "truth is always new, totally unknown and unknowable", then states a third known, but other than that it's quite beautiful

i suggest you contemplate why you think that's selling your life, i think that's some social programming that's been going around.

@Ves don't sell your life though for that 'a lot of capital/financial independence', i would avoid long term overtime jobs. I added to my second post if you didn't see, it fits in here also.

@Ves I'd look for a good job you could get with your education, that at least has a little interest to you. Your job is not your life though, in my opinion it is of small consequence. i have a friend that is a statistician; math job, just masters degree