Devin

Yes, again I didn't say personality doesn't matter, it was being suggested from 25 to 30 women develop personality, that development there is what I'm saying doesn't matter, let alone usually non-existent. Average personality is all that's needed. The abuse would be more tribalistic sub-cultures not traditionalist. Post-modernists are more miserable. healthpolicy.usc.edu https://healthpolicy.usc.edu › conser... Conservatives Find More Meaning in Life than Liberals - USC Schaeffer Center Aug 2, 2019 — Conservatives also reported somewhat higher life satisfaction and happiness than liberals, but the difference was most pronounced for

You Post-modernists divorce rate is sky high while traditionalists are very low actually.

I'm sure it does from a woman's perspective.

I used quotes because I was referring to the previous comments; people were saying women develop personality as they pass their twenties, men don't need that theoretical "developed personality".

This makes zero sense, so you were suggesting he should consider dating older, but now you're saying he's too immature to?????

@Emerald Men have zero need for a woman to create fun or enjoyment in their life, no need for deep and meaningful conversations with one, that's what women tend to need, not men. If the guy is fun the gal follows right along with him.

LMAO, I call my girlfriend Aphrodite, no joke. ?

I hear good things about Internal Family Systems Therapy if that hasn't been mentioned yet.

(From Integral Relationships: A Manual for Men page 153 - 162) This is some really bad life advice on here coming from narrow post-modern perspectives, men do not need "personality" from a woman in relationships, and most people do not mature much. Even just from simple logic, a 25 year old will obviously become a 35 year old, and potentially while being influenced by a developed man like the OP.

It's a reasonable assumption with the name U.S. Soccer. Now that you point to that I'm wondering if that was how they got so much support during their protest. Have you heard that argument before that since it's government funded they should be equal?

It's not funded by the government, it's a private organization.

Here's another example of neo-feminism.

I said traditional, not blue, I don't think spiral dynamics has any benefit in this type of discussion. And I don't know your family, I'm talking about generally traditional people, not 100 year traditional like Baptists, 2,000 year Traditional like Catholics, no that doesn't mean I'm talking about every catholic.

Neo meaning new, as in different than the original, feminists are about equality, neo-feminists are this. NPR https://www.npr.org › 2022/05/18 The U.S. men's and women's soccer teams will be paid equally under a new deal May 18, 2022 — The new collective bargaining agreements will run through 2028 and will also include the "equalization" of World Cup prize money This sounds like equality on paper but it's far from it.

Okay, that's probably like Baptists, more tribal in my opinion, in more traditional sub-cultures like Catholicism the women are reserved in my experience.

Yes, that's why I specified with neo-feminists.

It means the double standard feminists like Rapinoe, the women that think they should get paid as much as men in sports, or being a secretary compared to a male brick layer.

Where would you categorize the neo feminists?

To continue with gross generalizations; Traditional women in general are quiet and sweet compared to progressives who are just in general annoying to men, traditional women appreciate men, progressives tear down men. The only guy that would want to be with a progressive woman is like the op described, an emasculated one. *Rednecks are not traditional, they're tribal. Catholics are traditional. *The desire for a traditional woman over a progressive is from not thinking your value is based on your partner, all a spouse is for is a family, not your spiritual partner, there isn't such a thing.

Won't that always be a moving goal post though? How about "This is a beautiful world to be appreciated, an ever-changing world, it will be different tomorrow so appreciate how it is today, but the direction I would like it to head is healthier, happier, more grounded, and mature" Feeling like shit is just from not enjoying the cake in front of you and instead comparing it to one you want in the future. Have a spoon full, you can have your cake and eat it too.

Guys don't usually look for fun, not boring, or interesting as traits in women, that's a woman thing for what she looks for in a man. Blue works, it's not like it means Amish or something extreme, just more traditional leaning.

Most women will like sex everyday if you're attractive. You sound pretty normal, if you want to step your life up a notch though try to be more selective of your woman, it seems you may be being less selective because you're afraid women won't want sex, this isn't true, they have that demeanor socially because of social pressure, but they all want sex with attractive men, lot's of sex.

@D2sage Is heavy drinking not common there? You can find communities like you're describing in the U.S. too, usually rural Catholic communities.

Well it seems like a good idea to me to think about the type of woman you desire and then use that to determine the best way to use your time, the op's query for example, if the type of woman you're seeking is likely under 25 then spending more time in university towns would be a good idea, sure it's based on a generalization and not a physical law but it would likely optimize your time, but with this tactic you need to question whether your expectations are realistic, like the op for example, he may like that an older woman may tend to be more mature and established in life and in who she is, but is this generalization realistic? No, it's not actually, this is where Tate is actually right in a way, and a guy like the op may indeed be better optimizing his time focussing younger.

I take it you think you shouldn't settle for less than your wildest dream of a woman?