Devin

LMAO, I call my girlfriend Aphrodite, no joke. ?

(From Integral Relationships: A Manual for Men page 153 - 162) This is some really bad life advice on here coming from narrow post-modern perspectives, men do not need "personality" from a woman in relationships, and most people do not mature much. Even just from simple logic, a 25 year old will obviously become a 35 year old, and potentially while being influenced by a developed man like the OP.

It's a reasonable assumption with the name U.S. Soccer. Now that you point to that I'm wondering if that was how they got so much support during their protest. Have you heard that argument before that since it's government funded they should be equal?

It's not funded by the government, it's a private organization.

Here's another example of neo-feminism.

I said traditional, not blue, I don't think spiral dynamics has any benefit in this type of discussion. And I don't know your family, I'm talking about generally traditional people, not 100 year traditional like Baptists, 2,000 year Traditional like Catholics, no that doesn't mean I'm talking about every catholic.

Neo meaning new, as in different than the original, feminists are about equality, neo-feminists are this. NPR https://www.npr.org › 2022/05/18 The U.S. men's and women's soccer teams will be paid equally under a new deal May 18, 2022 — The new collective bargaining agreements will run through 2028 and will also include the "equalization" of World Cup prize money This sounds like equality on paper but it's far from it.

Okay, that's probably like Baptists, more tribal in my opinion, in more traditional sub-cultures like Catholicism the women are reserved in my experience.

Yes, that's why I specified with neo-feminists.

It means the double standard feminists like Rapinoe, the women that think they should get paid as much as men in sports, or being a secretary compared to a male brick layer.

Where would you categorize the neo feminists?

To continue with gross generalizations; Traditional women in general are quiet and sweet compared to progressives who are just in general annoying to men, traditional women appreciate men, progressives tear down men. The only guy that would want to be with a progressive woman is like the op described, an emasculated one. *Rednecks are not traditional, they're tribal. Catholics are traditional. *The desire for a traditional woman over a progressive is from not thinking your value is based on your partner, all a spouse is for is a family, not your spiritual partner, there isn't such a thing.

Won't that always be a moving goal post though? How about "This is a beautiful world to be appreciated, an ever-changing world, it will be different tomorrow so appreciate how it is today, but the direction I would like it to head is healthier, happier, more grounded, and mature" Feeling like shit is just from not enjoying the cake in front of you and instead comparing it to one you want in the future. Have a spoon full, you can have your cake and eat it too.

Guys don't usually look for fun, not boring, or interesting as traits in women, that's a woman thing for what she looks for in a man. Blue works, it's not like it means Amish or something extreme, just more traditional leaning.

@D2sage Is heavy drinking not common there? You can find communities like you're describing in the U.S. too, usually rural Catholic communities.

Well it seems like a good idea to me to think about the type of woman you desire and then use that to determine the best way to use your time, the op's query for example, if the type of woman you're seeking is likely under 25 then spending more time in university towns would be a good idea, sure it's based on a generalization and not a physical law but it would likely optimize your time, but with this tactic you need to question whether your expectations are realistic, like the op for example, he may like that an older woman may tend to be more mature and established in life and in who she is, but is this generalization realistic? No, it's not actually, this is where Tate is actually right in a way, and a guy like the op may indeed be better optimizing his time focussing younger.

I take it you think you shouldn't settle for less than your wildest dream of a woman?

It's pretty easy to fall into unrealistic expectations, it's good for a reality check now and then.

He's speaking about very low value girls, which he's right about them. But I suspect or at least hope you don't care about those types of women, higher value women are generally not in a serious relationship in their 20s. I'm 32 male and can't imagine there's a 25 y.o. mature enough for me to want to date.

I think It would be very hard to let your hair down and enjoy normal life with others being in Leo's position, it seems like it would come with a type of isolation if you weren't careful with it, which I imagine could get painful.

@Rishabh R You're only 22, just work on yourself, however YOU want to be, all while keeping an eye out for your girl. If you work on yourself how YOU want to be, you will be able to get any girl you want, you'll leave all the other guys in the dust, and will need to be selective of your girls. Keep on keepin' on @Rishabh R

Sounds like you need a break from processing this, go do something you enjoy right now; something you want to eat, walk in the park or around town, kick a soccer ball around at the park, jog, drink a nice glass of water, yoga, or whatever. Get in a more centered state before trying to process this. You'll find a girl, there's shitty ones you've found but there's plenty of nice ones, and almost all are desperate for a man.

Yep, try to see the beauty in it, even in the suffering. You don't need a cave but you probably need to live far differently than you currently are by following the world, minimalism works and you can still enjoy society, in moderation of course though.

Yes only a niche voter base comes out for the primary.