Devin

I never heard of Tate until a few months ago from this forum, and I've never heard of him outside this forum.

I think leftists can know because they've seen a different side of the coin that the oppressed haven't. But a lot of them just bandwagon, I would go further than religious and even call it tribal in essence. There are legitimate complaints for racism and cultural appropriation, but the band-wagonners wind up just running wild with accusations, and without mercy.

First off my point is not actually that they're happier, just that post modernists aren't happier. I spend time with the different groups and see these nuances myself, I'm just posting a study because it's more reputable than my anecdotal evidence. Traditionalists are often very happy with life, many are not though; traditionalism is not an end-all be-all either, but in terms of a spouse for a developed man, unless you can find an actual integrated woman then traditionalist is the next best thing in my view. The problem with the "trauma" is that the goal post will always move until you reach 'enlightenment', in terms of happiness; being satisfied with what is, accepting 'imperfection' is all that matters. I think happiness is much more simple, I disagree with the unknown level of happiness, I think that's more unknown realms of life, more flavors of life, but that doesn't mean happier, this applies to more partners as well.

I'd say she's mostly orange, barely any green, bleach blonde, bleached teeth, name brand brand new everything, travelling youtube channel exploiting and tourizing other cultures. Orange works too.

You know to not go to a normal dentist to have metal fillings removed right? I think they're called biological dentists that have a setup to keep the removal from exposing you to the metal.

LOL, then how do you measure happiness? What do you suspect is the unhappy parts in their life? They live EXACTLY the lives they've always wanted to live, post-modernists don't even live in a world that they want to live in, let alone their lives.

Saying if he dates young women that they'll leave him when they get older is suggesting what then if not to date older? Don't date anyone? And you called Tate viewers the incels, hilarious.

I was just agreeing that the study's 'result' is not sufficient research or reasoning to base life choices on. I posted the evidence to show that the post-modernist take is not the end-all be-all, conservatism is not for everyone, just like post-modernism isn't. Well you take a very narrow perspective in my opinion, the conservatives being with less partners may actually be contributing to happiness not "skewing the numbers" superficially. And lower standards is not necessarily a bad thing, all that matters is happiness.

Again, I didn't say personality doesn't matter at all, I didn't write the comment on a billboard I wrote it in response and in context of the discussion. I'll rephrase it A high development male does not need more than the average personality of an early twenties female for a partner.

I don't mean that you're doing this intentionally but I don't see how these scenarios are relevant to this discussion. Green or orange men won't consider dating blue women, so there's no connection to this discussion, it's a moot point. Integrated people are integrated, they get along with everyone.

I don't think you're fully reading what I've said. I agree You did this sort of thing with the youth transitioning argument, there are a lot of variables there. Of course I don't base my life choices off a headline.

I was speaking to the OP where the male is more developed, yeah your blue scenario is headed toward divorce. but a.) Most people don't develop, especially if married to a same stage partner. b.) Those people don't read actualized thread type advice so I'm not sure why we would consider that much for this discussion.

True.

I think this is what you're referring to " men do not need "personality" from a woman in relationships, and most people do not mature much. Even just from simple logic, a 25 year old will obviously become a 35 year old, and potentially while being influenced by a developed man like the OP." as I already explained to you, the conversation was about personality maturing from 25-30, men don't need that "maturing of personality" like women do from men. That does not mean a guy can take any crazy woman, that's obvious. A man can take the average personality of women, above that it's relatively unimportant, unlike with women choosing men.

https://news.virginia.edu/content/study-challenges-which-political-party-linked-happier-marriage "Republican men and women are more likely than Democrats to say they are “very happy” in their marriages, according to a new report co-authored by University of Virginia sociologist W. Bradford Wilcox."

???? You think you could have terrible marriages and be happier in general?

She's not fungible, I've invested in her, we've grown together, there's no other woman that could replace her, you're really making some unfounded leaps.

I do value her personality, I value everyone's personality.

LOL, right when I was reading your snarky post my girlfriend sends me the most adorable text.

Yes, again I didn't say personality doesn't matter, it was being suggested from 25 to 30 women develop personality, that development there is what I'm saying doesn't matter, let alone usually non-existent. Average personality is all that's needed. The abuse would be more tribalistic sub-cultures not traditionalist. Post-modernists are more miserable. healthpolicy.usc.edu https://healthpolicy.usc.edu › conser... Conservatives Find More Meaning in Life than Liberals - USC Schaeffer Center Aug 2, 2019 — Conservatives also reported somewhat higher life satisfaction and happiness than liberals, but the difference was most pronounced for

You Post-modernists divorce rate is sky high while traditionalists are very low actually.

I'm sure it does from a woman's perspective.

I used quotes because I was referring to the previous comments; people were saying women develop personality as they pass their twenties, men don't need that theoretical "developed personality".

This makes zero sense, so you were suggesting he should consider dating older, but now you're saying he's too immature to?????

@Emerald Men have zero need for a woman to create fun or enjoyment in their life, no need for deep and meaningful conversations with one, that's what women tend to need, not men. If the guy is fun the gal follows right along with him.